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On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote:
. . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM: . . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM: If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10, 10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows Update. It's doing an update right this minute. 10586.29 is installed. You're current. Not any more 10586.36 is current Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro. So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work. |
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lew wrote:
On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote: . . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM: . . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM: If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10, 10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows Update. It's doing an update right this minute. 10586.29 is installed. You're current. Not any more 10586.36 is current Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro. So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work. This will bypass Windows Update, and after 10586 is installed, Windows Update will start afresh. So you get Windows Update repair for free. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO That particular web page "sniffs" the OS which is calling. You should run that from your Win10 PC using Win10, as then all the options should be visible. I tried the above page in WinXP, and the web page is "sparse". If I run it from a Windows 7 VM, it offers MediaCreationTool as an option at the bottom of the web page. Try that, have MediaCreationTool do the 3.5GB download, and you can have it prepare the media of your choice. I normally like .iso files I can use, as I can make a DVD of that, or using the MicrosoftStore USB stick converter, I can put that DVD on a USB stick later. MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so only expect to be able to make one piece of media per try. If you run it a second time, there is every danger it will delete the contents of C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is quite annoying. If you want it, the MicrosoftStore utility should be available from the archive. I use it for putting Win7/Win8/Win10 ISO on USB key. As they have similar constructions and should work. http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe The file is "Windows7-USB-DVD-Download-Tool.exe" and I can go from .iso OS file to USB key with it. I use my 8GB USB key for this (lots of room). ******* In this case, all you really need, is to execute the setup.exe off the DVD, to kick off an Upgrade install to 10586 from 10240. In theory, you could even go to Disk Management, and "mount" the ISO file there, and then run the setup.exe off the virtual DVD image you would see by doing that. I haven't tested that, to see if the installer still wants to see/refer to the DVD while finishing the install. ******* The key to safe computing, is backups. Make a backup *right now* of your good working system. Then you can run off and get yourself into trouble with the MediaCreationTool, knowing you can always restore from backup if problems occur. Have fun, Paul |
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On 2015-12-18, Paul wrote:
lew wrote: On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote: . . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM: Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM: . . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM: If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10, 10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows Update. It's doing an update right this minute. 10586.29 is installed. You're current. Not any more 10586.36 is current Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro. So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work. This will bypass Windows Update, and after 10586 is installed, Windows Update will start afresh. So you get Windows Update repair for free. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO That particular web page "sniffs" the OS which is calling. You should run that from your Win10 PC using Win10, as then all the options should be visible. I tried the above page in WinXP, and the web page is "sparse". If I run it from a Windows 7 VM, it offers MediaCreationTool as an option at the bottom of the web page. Try that, have MediaCreationTool do the 3.5GB download, and you can have it prepare the media of your choice. I normally like .iso files I can use, as I can make a DVD of that, or using the MicrosoftStore USB stick converter, I can put that DVD on a USB stick later. MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so only expect to be able to make one piece of media per try. If you run it a second time, there is every danger it will delete the contents of C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is quite annoying. If you want it, the MicrosoftStore utility should be available from the archive. I use it for putting Win7/Win8/Win10 ISO on USB key. As they have similar constructions and should work. http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe The file is "Windows7-USB-DVD-Download-Tool.exe" and I can go from .iso OS file to USB key with it. I use my 8GB USB key for this (lots of room). ******* In this case, all you really need, is to execute the setup.exe off the DVD, to kick off an Upgrade install to 10586 from 10240. In theory, you could even go to Disk Management, and "mount" the ISO file there, and then run the setup.exe off the virtual DVD image you would see by doing that. I haven't tested that, to see if the installer still wants to see/refer to the DVD while finishing the install. ******* The key to safe computing, is backups. Make a backup *right now* of your good working system. Then you can run off and get yourself into trouble with the MediaCreationTool, knowing you can always restore from backup if problems occur. Have fun, Paul Thanks but it looks likd m$ changed the url so that the "windows10iso" doesn't exist as it points to just windows10 where it has info for "upgrading" to windows 10 from win7 or win8.x. Unless the 10586 is really a full install even with win10 10240 ver so that it isn't a "real" update. |
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.winston wrote:
Not any more 10586.36 is current Has the KB3116869 any relevance to this 10586.x version? I'm having a PITA installing that KB. I'm not sure the cleanmgr.exe could help? |
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Dicky wrote:
Current ver 1511, build 11082.1000 I see that coming in as an upgrade on the Win10 Insider setup right now... Another long wait. Paul |
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lew wrote:
Thanks. Did the mediacreation bit & then created a usb version; went back & did the "upgrade now" & the 1511, 10586.36 got installed/updated. Windows 10 is supposed to be "user friendly" & auto update as per the claim in the settings & other scams. And some people still think driverless cars are ready for prime time. Wonder if driverless semi-trucks/cars are able to stop at chain control stations & self-install the tire chains needed to the correct tires (front drive or rear drive); then able to recognize tire chains not needed any longer & remove the tire chains. I think driverless cars will be "sunny day" material for a while. Your new car will come with eight wheels. Four wheels with chains, four wheels without. The car will lower the correct set of wheels so they touch the road, and take the mountain pass. Paul |
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:18:04 -0500, Paul wrote:
MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so only expect to be able to make one piece of media per try. If you run it a second time, there is every danger it will delete the contents of C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is quite annoying. I would think it would be much faster and easier to simply copy the ISO rather than try to create a second one. It wouldn't have occurred to me to use MCT to create a second ISO. |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:18:04 -0500, Paul wrote: MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so only expect to be able to make one piece of media per try. If you run it a second time, there is every danger it will delete the contents of C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is quite annoying. I would think it would be much faster and easier to simply copy the ISO rather than try to create a second one. It wouldn't have occurred to me to use MCT to create a second ISO. The idea would be a visit to create an ISO, a second visit to fill up a USB key. For that machine that doesn't have an optical drive or whatever. Say I want to create two medias to cover all the devices in the house. I know how to solve the problem with the Windows 7 ISO to USB key tool, so there is a workaround (I point people to archive.org, since the original tool page was removed). My comment is just about "designing a tool with the user in mind". Like, how about a control which says "Would you like to start a fresh download, deleting the previous one, or would you like to use the current download which is 10586.xyz ?". I'm sure even a budding high school student programmer could think of these things. Microsoft professionals, not so much apparently. Again, previous Microsoft efforts worked better. They seem to get more daft as time passes. Paul |
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