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Messenger "hiding" on start up
I'm running XP HE.
I used MSN Messenger 4.7 until I had to upgrade to 6.1, via a message from Microsoft. I was surprised that 6.1 didn't replace the old version, so now they are both listed in my program files. When I open OE6, 4.7 is opening in the background - there is no icon in the systray or taskbar to indicate this, nor is the contacts window displayed. I only realised this when a contact signed in. On both versions, the options to run Messenger on start up or to allow it to run in the background are both unchecked. Can anyone tell me how to cure this problem, please? And am I okay to delete 4.7 without it affecting 6.1? Thanks. |
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Greetings Babs,
Actually, you were using Windows Messenger 4.7, not MSN Messenger 4.7. As such, the upgrade message you're seeing is wrong (not quite sure why you got it, I can't seem to reproduce it here). As such, MSN Messenger (6.1) does not upgrade Windows Messenger 4.7. However, to stop Outlook Express from starting Windows Messenger 4.7, simply close Outlook Express, then download and run this .reg file: http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...ssenger_oe.reg After this, it will no longer start with Outlook Express. You can remove Windows Messenger completely, but if you do, you will be preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any other applications that utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can just disable Windows Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and unchecking 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck Windows Messenger in the components list and click Next . Note: this is only available if you've installed Windows XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way Besides the drawbacks above however, if you really want to remove it completely, for Windows Messenger 4.7, close down Messenger if it's running (right click the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close). Then click the start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like): RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove Then click OK. Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and screenshots, go to, http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Babs" wrote in message om... I'm running XP HE. I used MSN Messenger 4.7 until I had to upgrade to 6.1, via a message from Microsoft. I was surprised that 6.1 didn't replace the old version, so now they are both listed in my program files. When I open OE6, 4.7 is opening in the background - there is no icon in the systray or taskbar to indicate this, nor is the contacts window displayed. I only realised this when a contact signed in. On both versions, the options to run Messenger on start up or to allow it to run in the background are both unchecked. Can anyone tell me how to cure this problem, please? And am I okay to delete 4.7 without it affecting 6.1? Thanks. |
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Hello Jonathan,
Thank you for your prompt reply and your invaluable help. You're right - it is Windows Messenger 4.7 and MSN Messenger 6.1 I have - why on earth does Microsoft confuse me like this :-) Babs "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings Babs, Actually, you were using Windows Messenger 4.7, not MSN Messenger 4.7. As such, the upgrade message you're seeing is wrong (not quite sure why you got it, I can't seem to reproduce it here). As such, MSN Messenger (6.1) does not upgrade Windows Messenger 4.7. However, to stop Outlook Express from starting Windows Messenger 4.7, simply close Outlook Express, then download and run this .reg file: http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...ssenger_oe.reg After this, it will no longer start with Outlook Express. You can remove Windows Messenger completely, but if you do, you will be preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any other applications that utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can just disable Windows Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and unchecking 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck Windows Messenger in the components list and click Next . Note: this is only available if you've installed Windows XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way Besides the drawbacks above however, if you really want to remove it completely, for Windows Messenger 4.7, close down Messenger if it's running (right click the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close). Then click the start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like): RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove Then click OK. Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and screenshots, go to, http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Babs" wrote in message om... I'm running XP HE. I used MSN Messenger 4.7 until I had to upgrade to 6.1, via a message from Microsoft. I was surprised that 6.1 didn't replace the old version, so now they are both listed in my program files. When I open OE6, 4.7 is opening in the background - there is no icon in the systray or taskbar to indicate this, nor is the contacts window displayed. I only realised this when a contact signed in. On both versions, the options to run Messenger on start up or to allow it to run in the background are both unchecked. Can anyone tell me how to cure this problem, please? And am I okay to delete 4.7 without it affecting 6.1? Thanks. |
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Messenger "hiding" on start up
Babs,
That was my problem. I am not an MSN member, only Hotmail and got the same message to upgrade to 6.1, did so and then could only resolve the issue by a system revert. -----Original Message----- Hello Jonathan, Thank you for your prompt reply and your invaluable help. You're right - it is Windows Messenger 4.7 and MSN Messenger 6.1 I have - why on earth does Microsoft confuse me like this :- ) Babs "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings Babs, Actually, you were using Windows Messenger 4.7, not MSN Messenger 4.7. As such, the upgrade message you're seeing is wrong (not quite sure why you got it, I can't seem to reproduce it here). As such, MSN Messenger (6.1) does not upgrade Windows Messenger 4.7. However, to stop Outlook Express from starting Windows Messenger 4.7, simply close Outlook Express, then download and run this .reg file: http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...opmessenger_oe ..reg After this, it will no longer start with Outlook Express. You can remove Windows Messenger completely, but if you do, you will be preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any other applications that utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can just disable Windows Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and unchecking 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck Windows Messenger in the components list and click Next . Note: this is only available if you've installed Windows XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way Besides the drawbacks above however, if you really want to remove it completely, for Windows Messenger 4.7, close down Messenger if it's running (right click the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close). Then click the start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like): RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir% \INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove Then click OK. Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and screenshots, go to, http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Babs" wrote in message om... I'm running XP HE. I used MSN Messenger 4.7 until I had to upgrade to 6.1, via a message from Microsoft. I was surprised that 6.1 didn't replace the old version, so now they are both listed in my program files. When I open OE6, 4.7 is opening in the background - there is no icon in the systray or taskbar to indicate this, nor is the contacts window displayed. I only realised this when a contact signed in. On both versions, the options to run Messenger on start up or to allow it to run in the background are both unchecked. Can anyone tell me how to cure this problem, please? And am I okay to delete 4.7 without it affecting 6.1? Thanks. . |
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Messenger "hiding" on start up
Hi Babs,
You're very welcome =). ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Babs" wrote in message om... Hello Jonathan, Thank you for your prompt reply and your invaluable help. You're right - it is Windows Messenger 4.7 and MSN Messenger 6.1 I have - why on earth does Microsoft confuse me like this :-) Babs "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings Babs, Actually, you were using Windows Messenger 4.7, not MSN Messenger 4.7. As such, the upgrade message you're seeing is wrong (not quite sure why you got it, I can't seem to reproduce it here). As such, MSN Messenger (6.1) does not upgrade Windows Messenger 4.7. However, to stop Outlook Express from starting Windows Messenger 4.7, simply close Outlook Express, then download and run this .reg file: http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...ssenger_oe.reg After this, it will no longer start with Outlook Express. You can remove Windows Messenger completely, but if you do, you will be preventing Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing and any other applications that utilize Messenger from working (or loading without problems). You can just disable Windows Messenger by opening it up, click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and unchecking 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on version). As well, you can disable it further by going to Start, Control Panel, Add or Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components on the left, uncheck Windows Messenger in the components list and click Next . Note: this is only available if you've installed Windows XP Service Pack 1 -- if you haven't, visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com. This won't remove Windows Messenger, but it will let it stay out of your way Besides the drawbacks above however, if you really want to remove it completely, for Windows Messenger 4.7, close down Messenger if it's running (right click the messenger icon in the notification area/system tray and click close). Then click the start button, then click Run and type in (copy-paste if you like): RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove Then click OK. Messenger will then be uninstalled. For more detailed instructions and screenshots, go to, http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Babs" wrote in message om... I'm running XP HE. I used MSN Messenger 4.7 until I had to upgrade to 6.1, via a message from Microsoft. I was surprised that 6.1 didn't replace the old version, so now they are both listed in my program files. When I open OE6, 4.7 is opening in the background - there is no icon in the systray or taskbar to indicate this, nor is the contacts window displayed. I only realised this when a contact signed in. On both versions, the options to run Messenger on start up or to allow it to run in the background are both unchecked. Can anyone tell me how to cure this problem, please? And am I okay to delete 4.7 without it affecting 6.1? Thanks. |
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