Maybe a little OT, scanner for Windows 7

I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much.
Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score
where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only
what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as
least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual.
Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another program, do the
cutting. But, it was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think
Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping
before the scan?

On 3/15/2014 8:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much.
Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score
where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only
what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as
least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual.
Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another program, do the
cutting. But, it was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think
Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping
before the scan?


There is a maximum pixel per inch that the scanner is capable. Whether
you scan the full document or a 2"square of the document, the best you
can scan hat 2 inch square is that maximum resolution.

I doubt if it takes any more time to make a draft scan and then a good
scan. I make one scan at maximum resolution, and acquire the scanned
image into an image Processor like Irfanview. Then cut what I want and
use it as needed.

My brother can not understand this. I scanned several hundred family
pictures in batches and gave him a CD with the batch images. He still
wants me to go back and scan them individually, as he thinks the
pictures well be better.

"Art Todesco" wrote in message
...
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I guess,
mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it almost
unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the lamp ...
totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37 and really
like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it doesn't seem to
do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the Microtek, it would do a
rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a section of the rough on
screen pic. Then you would only scan that much. Great for cutting and
pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score where there is too many
staffs of notes; so I can paste together only what I need to play from.
The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as least, I haven't found a way,
either by hacking or reading the manual. Sure, I could scan the whole
thing and then, in another program, do the cutting. But, it was very
convenient on the Microtek. So, I think Epson is going back. Anyone know
of a scanner that will allow cropping before the scan?

Is there maybe a software upgrade/update or add-on Epson program that will
add that feature? It's not the scanner; it's the software.

All of the HP flatbed scanners and AIOs that I've had included that feature.
I have a Desk Jet 3050 AIO now that also does it. And they're fairly
inexpensive at the home-use level, if you wanted to go with a new one.
--
SC Tom

Art Todesco wrote:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much.
Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score
where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only
what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as
least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual.
Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another program, do the
cutting. But, it was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think
Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping
before the scan?

My Epson will do a preview scan. It is a low quality scan but will
allow you to outline what you want to scan. Are you sure you don't
have the preview scan turned off in your preferences or setup?

--
 GW Ross 

 What the caterpillar calls 'End of 
 the World', God calls a butterfly. 

On 03/15/2014 07:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Epson Perfection V37
\\


From the Epson manual:



Place your original(s) on the document table. See Placing Documents or
Photos for instructions


Start Epson Scan.


In the Home Mode window, select the Document Type, Image Type, and
Destination settings.


Click Preview to preview your image(s). The Preview window appears and
displays your image(s)

SC Tom wrote:


"Art Todesco" wrote in message
...
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off
the lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection
V37 and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But
it doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that
much. Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical
score where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together
only what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this
or as least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the
manual. Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another
program, do the cutting. But, it was very convenient on the
Microtek. So, I think Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner
that will allow cropping before the scan?

Is there maybe a software upgrade/update or add-on Epson program that
will add that feature? It's not the scanner; it's the software.

All of the HP flatbed scanners and AIOs that I've had included that
feature. I have a Desk Jet 3050 AIO now that also does it. And they're
fairly inexpensive at the home-use level, if you wanted to go with a new
one.

I second purchasing HP.

--
Blue

On 3/15/2014 8:40 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 3/15/2014 8:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much.
Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score
where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only
what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as
least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual.
Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another program, do the
cutting. But, it was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think
Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping
before the scan?


There is a maximum pixel per inch that the scanner is capable. Whether
you scan the full document or a 2"square of the document, the best you
can scan hat 2 inch square is that maximum resolution.

I doubt if it takes any more time to make a draft scan and then a good
scan. I make one scan at maximum resolution, and acquire the scanned
image into an image Processor like Irfanview. Then cut what I want and
use it as needed.

My brother can not understand this. I scanned several hundred family
pictures in batches and gave him a CD with the batch images. He still
wants me to go back and scan them individually, as he thinks the
pictures well be better.
Yes, I knew that. I've scanned many photos from the pre-digital era. It
was just so convenient to box out the desired area on the preview, and
then scan. BTW, for over 1000 35mm slides, I found that scanning was
not the best. I ended up slightly modifying my old Sawyers projector to
provide a mounting for a digital camera and a white screen between the
slide and the lamp. The white screen was cut from a camera lens cap
used for white balancing. It worked better than I could have possibly
hoped for. I had some "professionally" done and then redone, and they
were no where near as good. Sadly, the projector will never again
project to a screen or wall, but it made the whole project quite easy.

On 3/15/2014 9:52 AM, G. Ross wrote:
Art Todesco wrote:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much.
Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score
where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only
what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as
least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual.
Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in another program, do the
cutting. But, it was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think
Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping
before the scan?

My Epson will do a preview scan. It is a low quality scan but will
allow you to outline what you want to scan. Are you sure you don't have
the preview scan turned off in your preferences or setup?

I haven't found it yet. BTW, what model do you have?

On 15/03/2014 12:27, Art Todesco wrote:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off the
lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection V37
and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But it
doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the Microtek,
it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a section of
the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that much. Great for
cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for musical score where there
is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste together only what I need to
play from. The Epson doesn't appear to allow this or as least, I haven't
found a way, either by hacking or reading the manual. Sure, I could scan
the whole thing and then, in another program, do the cutting. But, it
was very convenient on the Microtek. So, I think Epson is going back.
Anyone know of a scanner that will allow cropping before the scan?

I've got a couple of Epson scanners, and they've always allowed a
pre-scan, and then selecting the scan area - along with defining the
media type (reflective or transparent) and whether colour, greyscale or
line art, etc. Neither is connected at the moment, so I can't run Epson
Scan to check but, from memory, there are more than one mode of
operation - with a basic quick and dirty mode where everything is
automatic, and an Advanced/Expert mode where you get to control all the
parameters. It may even be two versions of the software on the CD which
comes with the scanner - can't remember.
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Roger
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On 3/15/2014 12:09 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 3/15/2014 8:40 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 3/15/2014 8:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:



There is a maximum pixel per inch that the scanner is capable. Whether
you scan the full document or a 2"square of the document, the best you
can scan hat 2 inch square is that maximum resolution.

I doubt if it takes any more time to make a draft scan and then a good
scan. I make one scan at maximum resolution, and acquire the scanned
image into an image Processor like Irfanview. Then cut what I want and
use it as needed.

My brother can not understand this. I scanned several hundred family
pictures in batches and gave him a CD with the batch images. He still
wants me to go back and scan them individually, as he thinks the
pictures well be better.
Yes, I knew that. I've scanned many photos from the pre-digital era. It
was just so convenient to box out the desired area on the preview, and
then scan. BTW, for over 1000 35mm slides, I found that scanning was
not the best. I ended up slightly modifying my old Sawyers projector to
provide a mounting for a digital camera and a white screen between the
slide and the lamp. The white screen was cut from a camera lens cap
used for white balancing. It worked better than I could have possibly
hoped for. I had some "professionally" done and then redone, and they
were no where near as good. Sadly, the projector will never again
project to a screen or wall, but it made the whole project quite easy.

I got a Vupoint slide converter about $70. It does a great job of doing
making digital images of the slides but has only a four slide tray. I
have about 10 years of slides, and it takes time.

I wish there was a system that I could put my B&H slide cubes in and
could do it automatically or automatically feed from the cube.

On 3/15/2014, philo* posted:
On 03/15/2014 07:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Epson Perfection V37
\\


From the Epson manual:



Place your original(s) on the document table. See Placing Documents
or Photos for instructions


Start Epson Scan.


In the Home Mode window, select the Document Type, Image Type, and
Destination settings.


Click Preview to preview your image(s). The Preview window appears
and displays your image(s)

+1

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 3/15/2014, Art Todesco posted:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes
it almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut
off the lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson
Perfection V37 and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it
uses LEDs. But it doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek
did. On the Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to
box all of a section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only
scan that much. Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a
bit for musical score where there is too many staffs of notes; so I
can paste together only what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't
appear to allow this or as least, I haven't found a way, either by
hacking or reading the manual. Sure, I could scan the whole thing and
then, in another program, do the cutting. But, it was very
convenient on the Microtek. So, I think Epson is going back. Anyone
know of a scanner that will allow cropping before the scan?

If philo's advice doesn't clarify it, just download the free IrfanView.
It has that capability (unless the TWAIN or WIA drivers don't, which
seem totally unlikely).

irfanview.com

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 03/15/2014 02:44 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 3/15/2014, philo posted:
On 03/15/2014 07:27 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
Epson Perfection V37
\\


From the Epson manual:



Place your original(s) on the document table. See Placing Documents or
Photos for instructions


Start Epson Scan.


In the Home Mode window, select the Document Type, Image Type, and
Destination settings.


Click Preview to preview your image(s). The Preview window appears and
displays your image(s)

+1




In all the years I've been into Photography I *really* recommend Epson.

On 03/15/2014 11:43 AM, Roger Mills wrote:

I've got a couple of Epson scanners, and they've always allowed a
pre-scan, and then selecting the scan area - along with defining the
media type (reflective or transparent) and whether colour, greyscale or
line art, etc. Neither is connected at the moment, so I can't run Epson
Scan to check but, from memory, there are more than one mode of
operation - with a basic quick and dirty mode where everything is
automatic, and an Advanced/Expert mode where you get to control all the
parameters. It may even be two versions of the software on the CD which
comes with the scanner - can't remember.



yep.

Any Epson I had has had a preview mode.

It can get turned off though

On 03/15/2014 02:47 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 3/15/2014, Art Todesco posted:
I have an old Microtek 6000 scanner and have always hated it ... I
guess, mostly the software. It is slow, but the lamp warming makes it
almost unbearable. It warms the lamp, even when it hasn't shut off
the lamp ... totally goofy. Anyway, I just bought an Epson Perfection
V37 and really like the speed. And, no warming, as it uses LEDs. But
it doesn't seem to do one thing that the old Microtek did. On the
Microtek, it would do a rough pre-scan and allow you to box all of a
section of the rough on screen pic. Then you would only scan that
much. Great for cutting and pasting. I use it quite a bit for
musical score where there is too many staffs of notes; so I can paste
together only what I need to play from. The Epson doesn't appear to
allow this or as least, I haven't found a way, either by hacking or
reading the manual. Sure, I could scan the whole thing and then, in
another program, do the cutting. But, it was very convenient on the
Microtek. So, I think Epson is going back. Anyone know of a scanner
that will allow cropping before the scan?

If philo's advice doesn't clarify it, just download the free IrfanView.
It has that capability (unless the TWAIN or WIA drivers don't, which
seem totally unlikely).

irfanview.com




Great idea. I've using IrfanView for many years . It's free but I liked
it so much I gave Irfan a modest contribution.