Gaining control in w-7

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 6/20/2012 9:56 AM, RH Breener wrote:

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 6/20/2012 7:21 AM, RH Breener wrote:
In WindowsExplorer I can't find the Delete button or any way to get it
to show.

It's in the same place on your keyboard it's always been.

In WindowsExplorer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, highlight the file and press the delete key. This is not rocket
science.

OK... I was thinking about the delete button in WindowsExplorer above the
pane. I'd loop what was to be deleted and click on the X botton above the
pane.



--
I do not carry a gun hoping that
I'll be able to shoot someone, anymore than
I carry a jack hoping I'll have a flat
tire.
Me.

RH Breener wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

How do I do away with all the irritating and aggravating "permissions"
in W-7? I can't take control of anything and I'm the Administrator.

Are you asking about UAC (User Account Control)?

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to...-in-windows-7/
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...trol-on-or-off

Found by Google searching on: "windows 7" uac turn off disable

Thanks, but that doesn't get rid of the Permissions/Installler/Admin stuff
that's irritating me since I bought the PC. I want to get rid of that. I
never needed it before and don't want it now.


Or are you asking about file permissions? Just because you're an
admin-level user doesn't mean you automatically have permissions to
files owned by other accounts. The owner of the file can add grant you
privileges by either adding your account or the user group to which your
account belongs. Or you, as an admin, can take ownership of the files.

There are two accounts now. THE Admin account, and AN Admin account. I
can't take ownership of anything because when I click on properties and try
to do something, it's grayed out no matter which account I use. Right
clicking gives no choice to Take Ownership. I have HomePremium. How do I
get rid of that dll in WindowsMail in W7?

Sorry, but I'd be focusing on moving to a newer and more robust e-mail
client than trying to do a frankenjob on the OS in trying to resuscitate
an Outlook Express clone. Others have probably give you enough info to
see if you can ressurect Windows Mail in Windows 7. I've never bothered
to try that.

In another thread, you said that you don't care for Thunderbird but
didn't mention why. I suspect it is because you aren't familiar with
Thunderbird and want something close to Outlook Express (but you have
the Home edition of Windows 7 which means no XP Mode - but see the
following paragraph).

If you have a free license for Windows XP then you could use VMWare
Player to install it as a guest OS. Since Windows XP comes with
Internet Explorer, and since that was the last version of IE that
bundled in Outlook Express, then you would have OE available under
Windows XP running in a virtual machine. VMWare is claiming their
latest version of VMWare Player is better than XP Mode. Well, their
virtual machine is definitely better but such a claim might mean they
also provide the seamless integration available with XP Mode (so it
looks like the virtualized OS running your app looks like it is running
under your host OS). VMWare Player is free for personal use.

You might like some other free e-mail client, like those listed at
http://email.about.com/od/windowsema...email_prog.htm.
Another list of e-mail clients (some of which are free) is at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari..._email_clients. Or you could
give up on local e-mail clients as many users do and go with your e-mail
provider's webmail client.

"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
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RH Breener wrote:

I can see that. I can't find much of the things I've looked for. Or I
have to waste a lot of time finding them. I can't see any benefit to
changing their names or where they're located in W7. In WindowsExplorer
I can't find the Delete button or any way to get it to show. The W7 OS
is very disappointing. And all the Permissions and other safety crap is
annoying as hell.

Install Classic Shell and tell trusted user to allow YOU access.

Thank you! I installed it and there's the delete X button, back in
WindowsExplorer. :^) I guess those other guys didn't know what I was
talking about, but you did.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

There seems to be more complexity than I care to handle also. I can't
see how all these aggravating security features are necessary.

The future of computing is totally locked down systems.
(Akin to "Terminal - Mainframe" computing, using small
display devices and the Cloud.)

In Windows 8, there'll be two streams. Win RT for ARM based tablets.
And Windows 8 for Intel processor desktops etc.

Win RT machines, will not be allowed to boot an alternate OS.
There will be an "app store", just like the competition uses,
and developer products will go through that "gate" to get
to customers. I don't think you're even allowed to use
an alternate web browser in Win RT.

If you don't like what you've currently got, there's always
something new coming along to make you appreciate the past.
I happen to like the freedom to trash my machines with the
silly things I do, but it doesn't look like that's the future.

*******

In the future, all the cool cats, will be using $35 open source
computers.
The next generation of users know where it's at - wires all over the
table, circuit boards laying open to the air...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/


http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-conten...46-225x300.jpg

That cat's got a pretty kick-ass game of Pong going there :-)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/01/r...nd-tinker-toy/

Paul

Unfortunately my software wont work on Linux. I don't think it'll ever
outsell Windows.

Well, Windows 8 will have a limited audience. Desktop and users of
computers more robust than pads and tablets won't bother with Win8. So
Microsoft caters to probably one of its smallest population of users
probably just a bit more than the WinCE crowd. If they **** up Win9
just as badly then a lot of Windows users aren't going to wait another
4-6 years (after already waiting th 4-6 years for the disappointing
Win8) to get an OS that is stable, doesn't change the GUI to pretend the
OS has a new version, doesn't slice up the OS into a plethora of
"editions" with various crippling levels. Yes, there will be apps that
want to run only on Windows but virtual machines (VMware, Virtualbox)
and emulators (WINE) will alleviate the need to have your base or
primary OS be Windows. Personally it looks like the board members are
drunk because they are wandering aimlessly without direction regarding
the future of their company.

Linux will outsell Windows if Microsoft repeats their fiasco in the next
release of Windows after the "8" version but which is just a minor
version change in the kernel (going from NT 6.1 for Win7 to NT 6.2 for
Windows 8). Redesigning (or ****ing up depending on your point of view)
the desktop UI does *not* qualify an OS as some major version change.
Painting your car doesn't change your car nor change your old car into a
new car. Only your perception has changed.

If they really screw up in Win9 and especially if again in Win10, users
may not have a choice but switch to a Linux OS as the base OS and run
virtual machines with an old version of Windows. There's also the
possibility that if Microsoft has lost the ability to actually develop
the *OS* (and not all the fluff they tack onto it) that they may do like
Apple and abandon the old OS and wrap their desktop GUI around a Linux
kernel. Then just like old DOS programs that ran under DOS (which was
still available under Win9x) but were no longer usable on an NT-based
Windows (NT4 and up), there'll be a new delineation between major OS
platforms where your old programs won't run natively on the Linux
kernel; however, just like with Windows 7, Microsoft might provide a
virtual machine to run an old version of Windows so old apps get a
breather - for awhile until it no longer make business sense to support
super-old apps with a VM running a really old Windows version.

If the surface looks the same to users, they won't have as much
resistance to the underlying change. I'm not intimate with all the
Linux variants but many seem to cater to the Windows crowd to make them
look a lot like Windows. At that point, the users won't care about the
differences in the underlying OS (but admins, wizards, experts,
tinkerers, and curiousity seekers digging into the intimate details will
care). So what's left is whether the apps they want to use will run on
the different OS (Linux). Well, that can be accomplished with virtual
machines (VMware, Virtualbox) or emulators (WINE). So they will be even
less inertia to overcome to get users to switch to Linux if Microsoft
continues to abandon its desktop community or anyone of their users
wanting something more powerful than a pad or tablet.

Microsoft is shooting themselves in their foot with Windows 8. If they
shoot their other foot with Windows 9, and if they then later take out
their knees with Windows 10, just what boob is going to linger with an
OS that refuses to evolve and continues to cripple their use of it?

Remember the NeXT computers? Well, their users got forced to move to
something else when that company flopped. Just because Microsoft is big
doesn't mean they cannot flop. Remember the USA had to bail out General
Motors, Chrysler, and GMAC at a cost of $29 billion. If Microsoft
continues the current aimless path of producing to their smallest
populace of customers, and if the government doesn't bail out Microsoft,
what are you going to do when Microsoft manufactures a product that is
no longer usable to you?

You can stay the path but you really should look ahead to see if you
need to make any turns.

Wow, very informative post. I hope others read it. After my bitter
disappointment with W7, I will also be looking for something different next
time. A Mac maybe or perhaps will try Linux with virtual machines. I have to
do some boning up and homework on this subject as soon as time allows and
the house here is quiet so I can concentrate.

Maybe MS feels that other than desktops are the wave of the future, where
the money is, so to hell with those still using them.

And let me mention here that the version of W7 I have, HomePremium, doesn't
allow changes to be made as per those Permission windows when you click on
Properties. It's all grayed out and nothing can be changed as shown on the
Sevenforums.com permissions/allow/deny window. That info doesn't appear to
apply to my version of W7. I have a new computer and don't feel I'm the
owner since I cannot do what I want with it. I can't live with this
Permissions and Admin and Trusted Installer crap. Even creating an
Administration account made no difference. MS owns my PC, dictates to me
what I can do with it, ... I don't need this.

"Ken Springer" wrote in message
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On 6/20/12 8:46 AM, RH Breener wrote:
I am so f*&^%$# mad, I'm still not getting anywhere with removing the
msoe.dll file in WindowsMail on W7 to replace it with the one I need to
replace it with.

Have you considered using one of the various Linux Live CD's out there,
and using Linux to replace the DLL file?

You know, for the first time since I bought a computer 16 years ago, I'm
considering Linux.

I have no idea what a Linux Live CD is how to use it to replace a .dll.
Before W7 it was no problem doing something like that in Windows. Where can
I find out how that's done? Trying to follow the info on Sevenforums
doesn't work with the version of W7 I have. The choices are all grayed out
so permissions can't be changed. The user no longer has that choice. MS
took it away from us.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 13.0.1
Thunderbird 13.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.2.2

"Ken Springer" wrote in message
...
On 6/20/12 9:42 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:38:51 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 6/20/12 8:46 AM, RH Breener wrote:
I am so f*&^%$# mad, I'm still not getting anywhere with removing the
msoe.dll file in WindowsMail on W7 to replace it with the one I need
to
replace it with.

Have you considered using one of the various Linux Live CD's out there,
and using Linux to replace the DLL file?

Considering his admitted knowledge level, I believe that would be a
very bad idea.


I wouldn't think it would be that hard to figure out how to copy a single
file. :-) He seems to imply he knows how to do to the actual
replacement, just that Win7 won't let him.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :^) MS no longer allows the user to gain
Permission to copy, move, rename or delete files. It's all grayed out.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 13.0.1
Thunderbird 13.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.2.2

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:53:44 -0400, Joe Morris wrote:

Um...Gene, my apologies for disagreeing with you, but a given account is
either an administrator or not an administrator. The built-in local
administrator account gains its privileges the same way that other,
non-built-in accounts do: it's a member of the local Administrators
group.

...

Having been unable to accomplish things with an administrator account
that I *could* accomplish when I logged on as The Administrator, I must
respectfully disagree with you.

Not in W7 HomePremium. Even logging in as The Administrator the choices are
grayed out and I can't gain the control needed to remove, rename or delete a
dll file. MS took that power away also.


--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Hi RH

RH Breener wrote:


"Asger Joergensen" wrote in message ...
Hi RH

RH Breener wrote:

Are you telling me Linux will allow me to switch a .dll in WindowsMail on W7.

Yes you can replace a file in windows using Linux, just boot using a Linux
dvd and replace the file in the same way as you would do in a windows with
no security, but do save the old one, in case it doesn't work.

I don't have a Linux DVD. I assume I can download Linux like any other software online.

I use this one http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads

It is actually a tool for partitioning hard disks, but it comes on a
linux boot cd that also contains other tools.

How to make the cd:
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=c..._infrarecorder
How to boot
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=booting

After the file is moved I shut down and remove the Linux DVD?

Yes.

I know nothing about Linux.

I like learning by doing. :-)

Best regards
Asger-P
http://Asger-P.dk/software
QLaunch, INI-Edit and Color Pick Pro.

"Asger Joergensen" wrote in message
...
Hi RH

RH Breener wrote:

Are you telling me Linux will allow me to switch a .dll in WindowsMail on
W7.

Yes you can replace a file in windows using Linux, just boot using a Linux
dvd and replace the file in the same way as you would do in a windows with
no security, but do save the old one, in case it doesn't work.

I don't have a Linux DVD. I assume I can download Linux like any other
software online.

After the file is moved I shut down and remove the Linux DVD? I know
nothing about Linux.



Best regards
Asger-P
http://Asger-P.dk/software
QLaunch, INI-Edit and Color Pick Pro.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

How do I do away with all the irritating and aggravating "permissions"
in W-7? I can't take control of anything and I'm the Administrator.

Are you asking about UAC (User Account Control)?

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to...-in-windows-7/
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...trol-on-or-off

Found by Google searching on: "windows 7" uac turn off disable

Thanks, but that doesn't get rid of the Permissions/Installler/Admin stuff
that's irritating me since I bought the PC. I want to get rid of that. I
never needed it before and don't want it now.


Or are you asking about file permissions? Just because you're an
admin-level user doesn't mean you automatically have permissions to
files owned by other accounts. The owner of the file can add grant you
privileges by either adding your account or the user group to which your
account belongs. Or you, as an admin, can take ownership of the files.

There are two accounts now. THE Admin account, and AN Admin account. I
can't take ownership of anything because when I click on properties and try
to do something, it's grayed out no matter which account I use. Right
clicking gives no choice to Take Ownership. I have HomePremium. How do I
get rid of that dll in WindowsMail in W7?

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:39:04 -0700, "RH Breener"
wrote:


"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 6/20/2012 9:56 AM, RH Breener wrote:

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
b.com...
On 6/20/2012 7:21 AM, RH Breener wrote:
In WindowsExplorer I can't find the Delete button or any way to get
it
to show.

It's in the same place on your keyboard it's always been.

In WindowsExplorer? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, highlight the file and press the delete key. This is not rocket
science.

OK... I was thinking about the delete button in WindowsExplorer above the
pane. I'd loop what was to be deleted and click on the X botton above the
pane.

If that particular feature is important to you, check out a small
program called Classic Shell. Any search engine will find it.

Thanks, someone else recommended it and I downloaded it.


--

Char Jackson

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

There seems to be more complexity than I care to handle also. I
can't
see how all these aggravating security features are necessary.

The future of computing is totally locked down systems.
(Akin to "Terminal - Mainframe" computing, using small
display devices and the Cloud.)

In Windows 8, there'll be two streams. Win RT for ARM based tablets.
And Windows 8 for Intel processor desktops etc.

Win RT machines, will not be allowed to boot an alternate OS.
There will be an "app store", just like the competition uses,
and developer products will go through that "gate" to get
to customers. I don't think you're even allowed to use
an alternate web browser in Win RT.

If you don't like what you've currently got, there's always
something new coming along to make you appreciate the past.
I happen to like the freedom to trash my machines with the
silly things I do, but it doesn't look like that's the future.

*******

In the future, all the cool cats, will be using $35 open source
computers.
The next generation of users know where it's at - wires all over the
table, circuit boards laying open to the air...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/


http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-conten...46-225x300.jpg

That cat's got a pretty kick-ass game of Pong going there :-)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/01/r...nd-tinker-toy/

Paul

Unfortunately my software wont work on Linux. I don't think it'll ever
outsell Windows.

Well, Windows 8 will have a limited audience. Desktop and users of
computers more robust than pads and tablets won't bother with Win8. So
Microsoft caters to probably one of its smallest population of users
probably just a bit more than the WinCE crowd. If they **** up Win9
just as badly then a lot of Windows users aren't going to wait another
4-6 years (after already waiting th 4-6 years for the disappointing
Win8) to get an OS that is stable, doesn't change the GUI to pretend the
OS has a new version, doesn't slice up the OS into a plethora of
"editions" with various crippling levels. Yes, there will be apps that
want to run only on Windows but virtual machines (VMware, Virtualbox)
and emulators (WINE) will alleviate the need to have your base or
primary OS be Windows. Personally it looks like the board members are
drunk because they are wandering aimlessly without direction regarding
the future of their company.

Linux will outsell Windows if Microsoft repeats their fiasco in the next
release of Windows after the "8" version but which is just a minor
version change in the kernel (going from NT 6.1 for Win7 to NT 6.2 for
Windows 8). Redesigning (or ****ing up depending on your point of view)
the desktop UI does *not* qualify an OS as some major version change.
Painting your car doesn't change your car nor change your old car into a
new car. Only your perception has changed.

If they really screw up in Win9 and especially if again in Win10, users
may not have a choice but switch to a Linux OS as the base OS and run
virtual machines with an old version of Windows. There's also the
possibility that if Microsoft has lost the ability to actually develop
the *OS* (and not all the fluff they tack onto it) that they may do like
Apple and abandon the old OS and wrap their desktop GUI around a Linux
kernel. Then just like old DOS programs that ran under DOS (which was
still available under Win9x) but were no longer usable on an NT-based
Windows (NT4 and up), there'll be a new delineation between major OS
platforms where your old programs won't run natively on the Linux
kernel; however, just like with Windows 7, Microsoft might provide a
virtual machine to run an old version of Windows so old apps get a
breather - for awhile until it no longer make business sense to support
super-old apps with a VM running a really old Windows version.

If the surface looks the same to users, they won't have as much
resistance to the underlying change. I'm not intimate with all the
Linux variants but many seem to cater to the Windows crowd to make them
look a lot like Windows. At that point, the users won't care about the
differences in the underlying OS (but admins, wizards, experts,
tinkerers, and curiousity seekers digging into the intimate details will
care). So what's left is whether the apps they want to use will run on
the different OS (Linux). Well, that can be accomplished with virtual
machines (VMware, Virtualbox) or emulators (WINE). So they will be even
less inertia to overcome to get users to switch to Linux if Microsoft
continues to abandon its desktop community or anyone of their users
wanting something more powerful than a pad or tablet.

Microsoft is shooting themselves in their foot with Windows 8. If they
shoot their other foot with Windows 9, and if they then later take out
their knees with Windows 10, just what boob is going to linger with an
OS that refuses to evolve and continues to cripple their use of it?

Remember the NeXT computers? Well, their users got forced to move to
something else when that company flopped. Just because Microsoft is big
doesn't mean they cannot flop. Remember the USA had to bail out General
Motors, Chrysler, and GMAC at a cost of $29 billion. If Microsoft
continues the current aimless path of producing to their smallest
populace of customers, and if the government doesn't bail out Microsoft,
what are you going to do when Microsoft manufactures a product that is
no longer usable to you?

You can stay the path but you really should look ahead to see if you
need to make any turns.

Wow, very informative post. I hope others read it. After my bitter
disappointment with W7, I will also be looking for something different
next
time. A Mac maybe or perhaps will try Linux with virtual machines. I have
to
do some boning up and homework on this subject as soon as time allows and
the house here is quiet so I can concentrate.

Maybe MS feels that other than desktops are the wave of the future, where
the money is, so to hell with those still using them.

And let me mention here that the version of W7 I have, HomePremium,
doesn't
allow changes to be made as per those Permission windows when you click
on
Properties. It's all grayed out and nothing can be changed as shown on
the
Sevenforums.com permissions/allow/deny window. That info doesn't appear
to
apply to my version of W7. I have a new computer and don't feel I'm the
owner since I cannot do what I want with it. I can't live with this
Permissions and Admin and Trusted Installer crap. Even creating an
Administration account made no difference. MS owns my PC, dictates to me
what I can do with it, ... I don't need this.

No, as before with the iPod, Microsoft is trying to cash in but late on
a technology market they were too blind to see or let someone else
cultivate to them market there. Ever heard of Microsoft Zune? Don't be
alarmed if you haven't heard of it. Many users haven't. Microsoft
already killed off Zune as a failure. They wanted their customers to
move to the Windows Phone. So how many friends do you know of that use
Windows Phone? The prediction is that by 2015, if Windows Phone lasts
that long, it will garner all of 16% of the mobile OS market. Ooooh.

Now they think they're going to capture the tablet market. Microsoft
thinks they have to be everywhere, even into markets with numerous
vendors getting small slices of their markets, instead of focusing on
its primary, traditional, and strong markets.

I have to wonder why Microsoft is so involved in consumer product
markets. Have they really reached saturation in penetrating the
corporate environments?

Could be.

I'm really behind the times. No techie here. All I have is a cheap no
frills cell phone for emergencies that I seldom use, and a GPS unit in the
van.

Go into a Verizon store or a Radio Shack, it's mind boggling.

"Nil" wrote in message
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On 22 Jun 2012, "RH Breener" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Not in W7 HomePremium. Even logging in as The Administrator the
choices are grayed out and I can't gain the control needed to
remove, rename or delete a dll file. MS took that power away
also.

I'm quite sure that is NOT true, as I was able to do it in Windows 7
Starter Edition, with is the most basic version available.

I described the method to you already in detail, but chose to ignore
it.

What method? I created 'The Administrator' account but it has no more
privileges than the 'An Administrator' account. Why would I lie about it?
That makes no sense and is offensive. How can I change anything when the
choices are grayed out in both accounts? Why not describe how to get them
active instead of grayed out an unclickable?

Are we even talking about the same thing?

"Asger Joergensen" wrote in message
...
Hi RH

RH Breener wrote:


"Asger Joergensen" wrote in message
...
Hi RH

RH Breener wrote:

Are you telling me Linux will allow me to switch a .dll in
WindowsMail on W7.

Yes you can replace a file in windows using Linux, just boot using a
Linux
dvd and replace the file in the same way as you would do in a windows
with
no security, but do save the old one, in case it doesn't work.

I don't have a Linux DVD. I assume I can download Linux like any other
software online.

I use this one http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads

It is actually a tool for partitioning hard disks, but it comes on a
linux boot cd that also contains other tools.

How to make the cd:
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=c..._infrarecorder
How to boot
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=booting

After the file is moved I shut down and remove the Linux DVD?

Yes.

I know nothing about Linux.

I like learning by doing. :-)

I would need more help with this. I have no idea what the correct CPU
download would be. I know nothing about Linux. It's a brand new PC and the
software on is a HP proprietary copy of MS W7, not from a MS disk. I would
need to see screenshots and have excellent non technical help files,
something that's become rare these days. This is something for a tech to
do, not someone like myself, but thanks anyway. :^)

Remember, if I screw up, I'm on my own.


Best regards
Asger-P
http://Asger-P.dk/software
QLaunch, INI-Edit and Color Pick Pro.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
RH Breener wrote:

How do I do away with all the irritating and aggravating "permissions"
in W-7? I can't take control of anything and I'm the Administrator.

Are you asking about UAC (User Account Control)?

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to...-in-windows-7/
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...trol-on-or-off

Found by Google searching on: "windows 7" uac turn off disable

Thanks, but that doesn't get rid of the Permissions/Installler/Admin
stuff
that's irritating me since I bought the PC. I want to get rid of that. I
never needed it before and don't want it now.


Or are you asking about file permissions? Just because you're an
admin-level user doesn't mean you automatically have permissions to
files owned by other accounts. The owner of the file can add grant you
privileges by either adding your account or the user group to which your
account belongs. Or you, as an admin, can take ownership of the files.

There are two accounts now. THE Admin account, and AN Admin account. I
can't take ownership of anything because when I click on properties and
try
to do something, it's grayed out no matter which account I use. Right
clicking gives no choice to Take Ownership. I have HomePremium. How do
I
get rid of that dll in WindowsMail in W7?

Sorry, but I'd be focusing on moving to a newer and more robust e-mail
client than trying to do a frankenjob on the OS in trying to resuscitate
an Outlook Express clone. Others have probably give you enough info to
see if you can ressurect Windows Mail in Windows 7. I've never bothered
to try that.

I don't need or want a more robust email/usenet client. All I do is get and
reply to my email and do some Usenetting.


In another thread, you said that you don't care for Thunderbird but
didn't mention why. I suspect it is because you aren't familiar with
Thunderbird and want something close to Outlook Express (but you have
the Home edition of Windows 7 which means no XP Mode - but see the
following paragraph).

I can't find help from the TB helpfiles. I can't find anything like the Get
More Headers button so cannot get more headers download than the first 300.
I can't find the info on how to get rid of the fat bar through the page with
From and Subject on it. I can't find the info to expand threads.


If you have a free license for Windows XP then you could use VMWare
Player to install it as a guest OS.

I have the installation disks from HP for XP. Install it on the W7 PC?

Since Windows XP comes with
Internet Explorer, and since that was the last version of IE that
bundled in Outlook Express, then you would have OE available under
Windows XP running in a virtual machine.

How would I add the HP proprietary installation copy of MS XP to W7?
Wouldn't it be rejected by the PC or override W7?

VMWare is claiming their
latest version of VMWare Player is better than XP Mode. Well, their
virtual machine is definitely better but such a claim might mean they
also provide the seamless integration available with XP Mode (so it
looks like the virtualized OS running your app looks like it is running
under your host OS). VMWare Player is free for personal use.

I have no idea what you are talking about. VMPlayer? What would I do with
that? If I can install XP on the same PC as W7, why not install Vista
already? I just can't see sticking the Vista or XP DVD into the new W7 PC
and installing one or the other somehow with or next to or beside
W7.............. ??????? There has to be more to it than that, and yes
they are legal copies from HP.


You might like some other free e-mail client, like those listed at
http://email.about.com/od/windowsema...email_prog.htm.
Another list of e-mail clients (some of which are free) is at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari..._email_clients. Or you could
give up on local e-mail clients as many users do and go with your e-mail
provider's webmail client.

Thanks but I would rather stay with what I like and what works for me. :^)