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June 2nd 05, 10:45 AM
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ntbackup crashes HARD
Howdy!
Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? 
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June 2nd 05, 03:58 PM
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"Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it...
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June 2nd 05, 04:35 PM
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"Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in
message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it... From reading some of the links found via google it sounds like the problem is with the rev disk rather than ntbackup. How is the rev disk formatted? FAT32 only works with 4 GB files max in XP. To do larger backups you must be using NTFS. Kerry
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June 2nd 05, 06:07 PM
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"Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it... From reading some of the links found via google it sounds like the problem is with the rev disk rather than ntbackup. How is the rev disk formatted? FAT32 only works with 4 GB files max in XP. To do larger backups you must be using NTFS. Kerry The rev is formatted udf (whatever that is), and according to Iomega the file size limitation is larger than the capacity of the rev drive (90gb at 2.6:1 compression). The problem is that ntbackup is hanging when i backup to the hard drive as well. Of course, backing up to the drive that is being backed up smells like trouble, although the *.bks file has this entry in it: D:\temp\ /Exclude. Maybe ntbackup is still bummed about it. I might try repartitioning the drive. Its not like i had plans this weekend...
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June 2nd 05, 06:54 PM
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"Noswall Nevetts" wrote in
message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it... From reading some of the links found via google it sounds like the problem is with the rev disk rather than ntbackup. How is the rev disk formatted? FAT32 only works with 4 GB files max in XP. To do larger backups you must be using NTFS. Kerry The rev is formatted udf (whatever that is), and according to Iomega the file size limitation is larger than the capacity of the rev drive (90gb at 2.6:1 compression). The problem is that ntbackup is hanging when i backup to the hard drive as well. Of course, backing up to the drive that is being backed up smells like trouble, although the *.bks file has this entry in it: D:\temp\ /Exclude. Maybe ntbackup is still bummed about it. I might try repartitioning the drive. Its not like i had plans this weekend... Ntbackup doesn't like UDF. It will usually work as long as the backup fits on one disk but the results are erratic at best. You should be able to backup to the same drive as you are backing up. then copy the file to the rev disk. If this doesn't work then there may be a problem with the file structure on the drive or permissions for the user account doing the backup or the drive doesn't have enough space. Did you get any errors in the event logs or the ntbackup report? Kerry
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June 2nd 05, 09:31 PM
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"Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it... From reading some of the links found via google it sounds like the problem is with the rev disk rather than ntbackup. How is the rev disk formatted? FAT32 only works with 4 GB files max in XP. To do larger backups you must be using NTFS. Kerry The rev is formatted udf (whatever that is), and according to Iomega the file size limitation is larger than the capacity of the rev drive (90gb at 2.6:1 compression). The problem is that ntbackup is hanging when i backup to the hard drive as well. Of course, backing up to the drive that is being backed up smells like trouble, although the *.bks file has this entry in it: D:\temp\ /Exclude. Maybe ntbackup is still bummed about it. I might try repartitioning the drive. Its not like i had plans this weekend... Ntbackup doesn't like UDF. It will usually work as long as the backup fits on one disk but the results are erratic at best. You should be able to backup to the same drive as you are backing up. then copy the file to the rev disk. If this doesn't work then there may be a problem with the file structure on the drive or permissions for the user account doing the backup or the drive doesn't have enough space. Did you get any errors in the event logs or the ntbackup report? Kerry I've reformatted the drive, and now i'm going to bed. I may give it one more try this weekend, but if i can robocopy my files to the rev in less than an hour, then that's the route i'm taking. Not pretty, but if it works... Thanks!
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June 2nd 05, 10:50 PM
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"Noswall Nevetts" wrote in
message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... "Kerry Brown" wrote: "Noswall Nevetts" Noswall wrote in message ... Howdy! Here's the problem: i'm running xp pro sp2 and trying to back up to a rev-disk with ntbackup. Ntbackup either crashes hard (no reaction at all from the pc), or if it doesn't crash, the backup takes well over 16 hours for about 30gb of data. Just for the fun of it, i tried backing up to a temporary directory. Ntbackup crashed again. Thinking there must be a problem with the hard drive (a raid1 array, 2 120gb Seagate drives), i ran chkdsk /r. Chkdsk seems to get stuck in phase 5 at around 56%, then manages to finish but doesn't report any errors. I'm assuming that the problem is not with the rev-drive, because i can xcopy the 30gb in about an hour, and ntbackup seems to want to crash no matter where i'm saving the data to. Is this ringing a bell with anyone? No bells ringing here. Are there any errors in the event logs? I simple google search for "rev disk" found the following link. http://msmvps.com/kwsupport/archive/...5/16/6552.aspx Kerry I found that site as well. There's no trouble starting the backup, its when the pc freezes half way through that's bugging me. I backed p d: across the network to a usb hdd attaached to my notebook (how the heck did that work?), and i'm going to reformat d: and restore everything. I may also try the trick with sharing the REV and then saving to the share, but that sound like more overhead to me. If that doesn't do the trick-- I'd rather not think about it... From reading some of the links found via google it sounds like the problem is with the rev disk rather than ntbackup. How is the rev disk formatted? FAT32 only works with 4 GB files max in XP. To do larger backups you must be using NTFS. Kerry The rev is formatted udf (whatever that is), and according to Iomega the file size limitation is larger than the capacity of the rev drive (90gb at 2.6:1 compression). The problem is that ntbackup is hanging when i backup to the hard drive as well. Of course, backing up to the drive that is being backed up smells like trouble, although the *.bks file has this entry in it: D:\temp\ /Exclude. Maybe ntbackup is still bummed about it. I might try repartitioning the drive. Its not like i had plans this weekend... Ntbackup doesn't like UDF. It will usually work as long as the backup fits on one disk but the results are erratic at best. You should be able to backup to the same drive as you are backing up. then copy the file to the rev disk. If this doesn't work then there may be a problem with the file structure on the drive or permissions for the user account doing the backup or the drive doesn't have enough space. Did you get any errors in the event logs or the ntbackup report? Kerry I've reformatted the drive, and now i'm going to bed. I may give it one more try this weekend, but if i can robocopy my files to the rev in less than an hour, then that's the route i'm taking. Not pretty, but if it works... Thanks! Good luck with it. If you need more help please post if you found any errors in the event logs or the backup report. It would be very helpful to know if there were any errors and what the errors were if present. Personally for data I always just copy it rather than backup if the destination is large enough. It is quicker to restore and easy to see what got copied. Kerry
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