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Old April 3rd 16, 01:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Archer[_3_]
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Hi all

Finding Win7 doesnot save position of open windows I tried
ShellFolderFix but sorry to say that it des not help. Is there some
special procedure in using ShellFolderFix to save windows position?
I havw reied also ctrl+close and shift+close. None works.
It is a big annoyance. Is there any other way?

TIA for any help
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Old April 3rd 16, 12:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 06:01:44 +0530, Archer wrote:

Finding Win7 doesnot save position of open windows


That's the job of each individual application, not Windows itself.
Some applications save the previous size and position of their
window; others don't.

I tried
ShellFolderFix but sorry to say that it des not help. Is there some
special procedure in using ShellFolderFix to save windows position?


Does the documentation mention any? If not, you might write to the
program's author and suggest that as an improvement.

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Old April 3rd 16, 01:49 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 06:01:44 +0530, Archer wrote:

Finding Win7 doesnot save position of open windows


All, or just some?

That's the job of each individual application, not Windows itself.
Some applications save the previous size and position of their
window; others don't.

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Does that apply to original functions (notepad, paint etc.) too? (If so
can you mention one that does, and one that doesn't?)
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Old April 3rd 16, 02:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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| Finding Win7 doesnot save position of open windows

As Stan said, individual programs do that or not
by themselves. But I assume you're talking about
Explorer windows.

Here's something you can try. It sets folder window
size. I don't remember whether it will set position, and
if it will it will be for all folders:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/nt6fix.php5#folfix

The technical details are complex and maddening.
There's some explanation in the HTA file in the download.
There's more technical info in the script comments.

Years ago, on Win9x, it was possible to rewrite the
folder.htt file for Explorer folders and have it do anything
one liked. The window view was actually a webpage.
The file listview was a control on the webpage. The folder
window was functionally an IE instance. So one could
design the webpage, add links to folders... all sorts of
useful things. It was very clever. The window could be
positioned using script in the folder.htt webpage.

With XP and later Microsoft has maintained some
of the IE connection. A folder window is still an IE
window programmatically. But there is no longer a
browser window in Explorer windows. The flexibility
is gone.

With XP the whole thing changed. It's also broken
in a ridiculous, inexcusable way. I wrote a fix for that.
It stores both folder window size and location. It
does not do that by running all the time and watching
window loads. It does it by fixing the Registry settings
so that Explorer will do that.

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/xpfix.php5#folfix

There are technical details in the script comments
with that download. The gist of it is that with XP,
every time you open a folder, values are stored
under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\.
Thousands of them. Each key under \BagsMRU represents
subfolders in an opened folder. Each of those values
points to a key under the \Bags key. Each of those
has a Shell subkey. Each of those stores extensive
data about windows that have been opened: position,
size, display type.... But Explorer stores the data
in a faulty way, so it then ignores the data when it
reads that data back. An extensive, complex system is in
place to remember all Explorer folder windows individually,
but it's broken! If the data is repaired then Explorer
will pay attention and obey the settings. That's what
my XP folder fix does. It repairs the data for all previously
opened windows. From then on Explorer opens windows
and positions them properly, as long as they've been
opened before.

On Vista/7 Microsoft pulled a Microsoft: They changed
things around and jumbled them up, for no good reason.
The Registry still stores settings in a *similar* way, but
not quite the same. And now Explorer seems to ignore
the individual folder settings altogether! But it does pay
attention to an AllFolders setting. I've had luck getting
window size to obey by deleting all individual folder keys
and adjusting the Allfolders values on Win7. As part of
that I set them to open centered. I don't remember now
whether Explorer in Win7 obeys that aspect. Even if it
does, it's only a setting for all folders. I doubt it's possible
to do better than that. Anything you run like ShellfolderFix
is probably running in the background and moving the
windows itself, based on its own stored settings.

In any case, the first link above is the Vista/7 fix,
if you want to try it. If you *really* want all windows to
open where you last closed them you'll have to find a
program that runs all the time and moves them as they
load. (Such a program should be possible. Explorer is
available programmatically in Windows. Even scripts
have the ability to move Explorer windows.)


 




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