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hello again folks,
Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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I have hear of McAfee and Norton taking over computers and I consider those
applications malware and I will uninstall them. They do basically the same thing that malware does, constantly harrass you into buying their products and thinking that they own your computer. But I digress... -- Randem Systems Your Installation Specialist The Top Inno Setup Script Generator http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html http://www.rndem.com/installerproblems.html http://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.html http://www.financialtrainingservices.org "Memyself" wrote in message news hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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Hi,
yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling
me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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Yes, but how then do you protect against the malware and all that. Could one
of the lesser known anti-virus softwares be a better option over Norton, and pals? -- nothing succeeds like bs "Randem" wrote: I have hear of McAfee and Norton taking over computers and I consider those applications malware and I will uninstall them. They do basically the same thing that malware does, constantly harrass you into buying their products and thinking that they own your computer. But I digress... -- Randem Systems Your Installation Specialist The Top Inno Setup Script Generator http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html http://www.rndem.com/installerproblems.html http://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.html http://www.financialtrainingservices.org "Memyself" wrote in message news hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't
expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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On Dec 19, 4:37*am, Memyself wrote:
thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, * * * * *Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs Not sure about McAfee but Norton is known to block System Restore. Norton Anti-virus module (in most NIS, NAV, NSW and 360) have a feature that protects the Norton software. As per their own kb, this seems to also block System Restore as this can change the Norton "modules." Also, if you install the GoBack software (part some Norton tools,) this appears to cause problem. |
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I've always used common sense in what I click on and/or download. I never, I
mean never download anything I don't know the source of. I even buy the CD-ROMs for games rather than download them from the site as I've heard that some virus creators can "piggyback" their viruses onto games. (and I think it may true as my virus protection programs use to go on alert whenever I was on some game sites. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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GoBack was on my old computer but not on this one. I never had a problem with
it , but I know lots of other people who did so I've been reluctant to try on my Dell. Does anyone know about Recovery systems such as Acronis True Image (at least, I think it also recovers files as well as back them up)? I know it's highly recommended by some folks who seem a lot more about these things than I do. There's also one called Z.A.R. that a lot of people really like. Kim on TheTechSpot.com really likes it. If it's better than SystemRestore, I'm going to buy it as soon as I can. But, I'm still concerned about not using an anti virus program. -- nothing succeeds like bs "smlunatick" wrote: On Dec 19, 4:37 am, Memyself wrote: thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs Not sure about McAfee but Norton is known to block System Restore. Norton Anti-virus module (in most NIS, NAV, NSW and 360) have a feature that protects the Norton software. As per their own kb, this seems to also block System Restore as this can change the Norton "modules." Also, if you install the GoBack software (part some Norton tools,) this appears to cause problem. |
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Acronis True Image can make a complete and perfect backup image of your
system, which you can restore later if the need arises. Making an image or clone backup is WAY superior to using something like GoBack (or even System Restore, for that matter), should you really need a perfect backup of your system to be restored. You can read about it at the Acronis web site. Memyself wrote: GoBack was on my old computer but not on this one. I never had a problem with it , but I know lots of other people who did so I've been reluctant to try on my Dell. Does anyone know about Recovery systems such as Acronis True Image (at least, I think it also recovers files as well as back them up)? I know it's highly recommended by some folks who seem a lot more about these things than I do. There's also one called Z.A.R. that a lot of people really like. Kim on TheTechSpot.com really likes it. If it's better than SystemRestore, I'm going to buy it as soon as I can. But, I'm still concerned about not using an anti virus program. -- nothing succeeds like bs "smlunatick" wrote: On Dec 19, 4:37 am, Memyself wrote: thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs Not sure about McAfee but Norton is known to block System Restore. Norton Anti-virus module (in most NIS, NAV, NSW and 360) have a feature that protects the Norton software. As per their own kb, this seems to also block System Restore as this can change the Norton "modules." Also, if you install the GoBack software (part some Norton tools,) this appears to cause problem. |
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Thanks. I wonder if I might trouble you about another problem? If you my
posts under "files suddenly gone" you may know that I was advised to create a new user profile and then copy the old data to that profile. It partially worked. But, now my pictures turn up in WindowsMediaPlayer and I can't them back to My Pictures; can't get the ones I used as wallpaper back to that function. Plus, it took photos from text documents and imported them to WMP as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Bill in Co." wrote: Acronis True Image can make a complete and perfect backup image of your system, which you can restore later if the need arises. Making an image or clone backup is WAY superior to using something like GoBack (or even System Restore, for that matter), should you really need a perfect backup of your system to be restored. You can read about it at the Acronis web site. Memyself wrote: GoBack was on my old computer but not on this one. I never had a problem with it , but I know lots of other people who did so I've been reluctant to try on my Dell. Does anyone know about Recovery systems such as Acronis True Image (at least, I think it also recovers files as well as back them up)? I know it's highly recommended by some folks who seem a lot more about these things than I do. There's also one called Z.A.R. that a lot of people really like. Kim on TheTechSpot.com really likes it. If it's better than SystemRestore, I'm going to buy it as soon as I can. But, I'm still concerned about not using an anti virus program. -- nothing succeeds like bs "smlunatick" wrote: On Dec 19, 4:37 am, Memyself wrote: thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs Not sure about McAfee but Norton is known to block System Restore. Norton Anti-virus module (in most NIS, NAV, NSW and 360) have a feature that protects the Norton software. As per their own kb, this seems to also block System Restore as this can change the Norton "modules." Also, if you install the GoBack software (part some Norton tools,) this appears to cause problem. |
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If that is the case, you don't need any of the trash. I use no virus
programs, spyware or anything else and have never had a virus, malware or any other problem. I back up my system about once a week and never had to use it. It gives me peace of mind. "Memyself" wrote in message ... I've always used common sense in what I click on and/or download. I never, I mean never download anything I don't know the source of. I even buy the CD-ROMs for games rather than download them from the site as I've heard that some virus creators can "piggyback" their viruses onto games. (and I think it may true as my virus protection programs use to go on alert whenever I was on some game sites. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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I think I see what my mistake has been and I owe it to you! You say you back
up your system about once a week. I'm beginning to think that's a big part of my problem. I had never backed up the system accept for putting some text documents on floppies. I'd been researching zip drives and such, but all the confusing info left me not knowing which way to go. But after this latest headache, I'm definitely going to get into the back-up habit. Do you use one of those back up softwares like Acronis? I just got a CD\DVD burner, so I have to figure out how to use it to back up data files. I take it you don't use Spybot either? Some folks tell me it's the only such program to use and to ditch the rest. Thanks again. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: If that is the case, you don't need any of the trash. I use no virus programs, spyware or anything else and have never had a virus, malware or any other problem. I back up my system about once a week and never had to use it. It gives me peace of mind. "Memyself" wrote in message ... I've always used common sense in what I click on and/or download. I never, I mean never download anything I don't know the source of. I even buy the CD-ROMs for games rather than download them from the site as I've heard that some virus creators can "piggyback" their viruses onto games. (and I think it may true as my virus protection programs use to go on alert whenever I was on some game sites. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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I do not use a CD/DVD for backup. I use an external harddrive.
I purchased a Seagate external drive. I opted for Seagate because that is the manufacturer of my internal drive. (Which has been flawless). I also have a great deal of respect for the quality demanded by my computer manufacturer. They wouldn't use Seagate if any quality problem existed. I then made a list of questions to ask if I had to do any kind of recovery. Examples: How do I recover just one bad file? How do I recover the entire OS? What if I can't boot from my internal drive? Can I boot from the external drive? What can I do if my internal drive is completely inoperative? Can I copy my external drive to a new internal drive? When I purchased my external drive I received a backup program free called BounceBack. However, it was a basic program and would not fulfill all the above questions. So, I purchased the 'Professional' version. You can research and get all your questions answered from www.cmsproduct.com "Memyself" wrote in message ... I think I see what my mistake has been and I owe it to you! You say you back up your system about once a week. I'm beginning to think that's a big part of my problem. I had never backed up the system accept for putting some text documents on floppies. I'd been researching zip drives and such, but all the confusing info left me not knowing which way to go. But after this latest headache, I'm definitely going to get into the back-up habit. Do you use one of those back up softwares like Acronis? I just got a CD\DVD burner, so I have to figure out how to use it to back up data files. I take it you don't use Spybot either? Some folks tell me it's the only such program to use and to ditch the rest. Thanks again. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: If that is the case, you don't need any of the trash. I use no virus programs, spyware or anything else and have never had a virus, malware or any other problem. I back up my system about once a week and never had to use it. It gives me peace of mind. "Memyself" wrote in message ... I've always used common sense in what I click on and/or download. I never, I mean never download anything I don't know the source of. I even buy the CD-ROMs for games rather than download them from the site as I've heard that some virus creators can "piggyback" their viruses onto games. (and I think it may true as my virus protection programs use to go on alert whenever I was on some game sites. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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Thanks. I have heard others speak highly of Seagate, so I'll definitely look
into it. I think they made the drive that's on my Dell Optiplex. I've been going nuts because of these problems, but things are starting to look up. Thanks again. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: I do not use a CD/DVD for backup. I use an external harddrive. I purchased a Seagate external drive. I opted for Seagate because that is the manufacturer of my internal drive. (Which has been flawless). I also have a great deal of respect for the quality demanded by my computer manufacturer. They wouldn't use Seagate if any quality problem existed. I then made a list of questions to ask if I had to do any kind of recovery. Examples: How do I recover just one bad file? How do I recover the entire OS? What if I can't boot from my internal drive? Can I boot from the external drive? What can I do if my internal drive is completely inoperative? Can I copy my external drive to a new internal drive? When I purchased my external drive I received a backup program free called BounceBack. However, it was a basic program and would not fulfill all the above questions. So, I purchased the 'Professional' version. You can research and get all your questions answered from www.cmsproduct.com "Memyself" wrote in message ... I think I see what my mistake has been and I owe it to you! You say you back up your system about once a week. I'm beginning to think that's a big part of my problem. I had never backed up the system accept for putting some text documents on floppies. I'd been researching zip drives and such, but all the confusing info left me not knowing which way to go. But after this latest headache, I'm definitely going to get into the back-up habit. Do you use one of those back up softwares like Acronis? I just got a CD\DVD burner, so I have to figure out how to use it to back up data files. I take it you don't use Spybot either? Some folks tell me it's the only such program to use and to ditch the rest. Thanks again. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: If that is the case, you don't need any of the trash. I use no virus programs, spyware or anything else and have never had a virus, malware or any other problem. I back up my system about once a week and never had to use it. It gives me peace of mind. "Memyself" wrote in message ... I've always used common sense in what I click on and/or download. I never, I mean never download anything I don't know the source of. I even buy the CD-ROMs for games rather than download them from the site as I've heard that some virus creators can "piggyback" their viruses onto games. (and I think it may true as my virus protection programs use to go on alert whenever I was on some game sites. -- nothing succeeds like bs "Unknown" wrote: Very simply, use common sense. I.E. Do not click on anything you don't expect or know. If you receive something via e-mail from an unknown source ignore it. NEVER download anything unless you are sure what you're getting. I.E. Microsoft updates OK. Other downloads ----- think. Your system will run great without Norton, McAfee, and other trash. "Memyself" wrote in message news thanks for the info. I called McAfee and one of their engineers kept telling me that there's no way it can disable System restore, but as the whole began right after it "allowed a change to your computer" I have to assume they did it. So, how does one protect their system from viruses, spyware, etc. without becoming a hostage to McAfee, Norton, etc? -- nothing succeeds like bs "inavlis" wrote: Hi, yes it is possible, since they have the abililty to disable your system restore. "Memyself" wrote: hello again folks, Can anyone tell me if it's even possible that System Restore can have conflicts with McAfee or with a Windows Update? It seems so many problems happen right after McAfee does something ("System Guard allowed a change to your Computer) or just after a Windows Update, that I can't help but wonder. Hope this isn't a stupid question, but: Is System Restore not working because the Disk Drive is not found, or is the HDD not found because SR's not working? -- nothing succeeds like bs |
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