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"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
... I usually have to hit my breaks by the time I get on the freeway from the ramp I prefer to hit my BRAKES than my BREAKS! grin Oops Well, since we're talking about the genre of priii, how do owners dispose of the old batteries, in the ground water of a land-fill? I asked a sales guy at a dealer that and he didn't know. They haven't had to deal with it yet I guess. He had to ask a few other people for someone told him to tell customers to bring it to them and they'll deal with it. |
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Brevity is the soul of thought.
See my previous post in this thread. Prune your posts of all the excess fat. DSH "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ... Also, do you think you might be able to cut your posts down a bit? They are getting VERY long and discursive. It can sometimes take a lot to say what needs to be said and it [sic] easier for people to ignore what they think is irrelvant than to wonder what should have been added. |
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Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
Much agreed! I use my power for: 1. Towing 2. 0-50ish very quickly 3. 80+ on the open road to....fun stuff... Although a BMW stomped my ass the other day I need to get back into a car! I had him up to 48. Then quickly lost it. I'm just not geared for "quickness" up that high. Even though I already upped my gear ratio. I've lost track of what you have, think you passed up the SRT8 until the MDS bug is fixed and bought your wife a car instead. Is that right? If yes, what are you driving that can tow AND be able to take on a Beemer? I knew I'd get my ass kicked taking on a 735i but it was still fun. I'd be a close race, likely in favor of the BMW even with an SRT8, those things scream, albeit at over twice the price. And, I'm aware of some Audis with 450 hp that claim to do 0-50 in 4.6, which would shade an SRT8 by about 2 or 3 tenths. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... I usually have to hit my breaks by the time I get on the freeway from the ramp I prefer to hit my BRAKES than my BREAKS! grin Oops Well, since we're talking about the genre of priii, how do owners dispose of the old batteries, in the ground water of a land-fill? I asked a sales guy at a dealer that and he didn't know. They haven't had to deal with it yet I guess. He had to ask a few other people for someone told him to tell customers to bring it to them and they'll deal with it. Yes, not around long enough. I looked at 3 different studies last year wrt the real break-even on gas vs battery vs whatever. One was the EPA, one was the Detroit News, and can't remember who the 3rd one was, some "independent" source. Results were, as you'd expect, "mixed", but was about like this: if you drive a lot on gas, your battery will last longer, if you idle a lot and/or drive in winter especially at night with a big electrical draw, it won't. Duh! Then, if you don't drive a lot, the battery will die, read, fail to fully recharge and give its full life and power. Bottom line from my read of these 3 studies: the break-even is very difficult to attain at anything less than at least $4/gallon, begins to make sense at $5, and assumes you can get at least 4 years from a set of batteries which seem to vary in the $1800-2500 range to replace. At best, this is a GREAT confusion to them who really want the overall economy, not just be green. What makes this so tought to nail down is the exact definitions of various terms, like driving cycle, expected/predicted gas prices, varying mileage/year estimates, the premium of the hybrid car over an equivalent economy sedan from the same brand, and tax incentives. The latter is biting some folks in the ass as they've discovered to their sorrow that the car they paid big bucks for sold over the tax incentive max number, something in the 60,000 range, I believe, so they need to add a big chunk of change back into the equation. Again, this is all mixed, as in mixed up, but I have read a number of reports asserting that hybrid car sales are softening but sales of smaller CUVs are rising as are compact and mid-size cars with high-mileage 4 bangers, while the big trucks and SUVs continue to sink, especially those with huge engines, certainly our HEMIs and the gigantic displacement Ford and GM stuff. Seems clear to me that a shake-out is coming to the entire industry as people's tastes and their pocketbooks change, and their memories on gas prices du jour remain very short, complicating the whole mess by big iron rising and falling almost with every 10 or 20 cent change in gas. I will close with this: if I look at just the inflation rate back from, say the late 1960s, throughout even the artificial price spikes of the early 1970s, into today, gas should be at around $4.50 or so, maybe $4.75, assuming also constant taxation. So, while nobody likes gas at $3.25 or what is about $2.50 in my neck of the woods right now, we'd all like it a whole lot less at $4.75. And, that, BTW, pretty much squashes the conspiracy theories about Big Oil and Big Government conspiring with Big Car Companies to screw the consumer. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ...
Brevity is the soul of thought. Yes, and you are repetitive beyond all reason. How many times do you have to whine the same song? Maybe some cheese with your whine might improve your disposition. See my previous post in this thread. I did, and was nauseated. Prune your posts of all the excess fat. Methinketh I'll prune myself of you, it seems I am in the minority here and still attemting to talk politely and rationally with you, largely in agreement, until you turned on me. So, don't like my verbose posts, exercise your killfile freedoms and put me out-of-my misery, nobody else seems to be complaining. "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ... Also, do you think you might be able to cut your posts down a bit? They are getting VERY long and discursive. It can sometimes take a lot to say what needs to be said and it [sic] easier for people to ignore what they think is irrelvant than to wonder what should have been added. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:30:01 -0800, "Justin" wrote:
Much agreed! I use my power for: 1. Towing 2. 0-50ish very quickly 3. 80+ on the open road to....fun stuff... So you also admit to breaking speed limits and you're a reckless driver. What other dumb things you do besides waste time in this newsgroup? |
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"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
... Detritus Liberally Snipped Brevity is the soul of thought. Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ... Neither does a computer with ONE GB of RAM -- trying to run Vista. ...memory I think is necessary for Vista, but if you insist, at least 4 gig. Garbanza! Well there you go. I stated the same number yesterday -- FOUR Gigs for ME -- Room For Growth & Expansion. Cybernetic Requirements & Needs Are NOT STATIC. But not for the "average potted plant user" -- who will hopefully [so the hardware makers hope] get a new box in two years -- because he has underestimated his RAM needs. Buy the BEST and KEEP it for awhile. That's the ticket. I never said he did anything OUTRAGEOUS -- he's just pedestrian. ...apparently haven't been reading all of the posts which are running strongly against you. You don't strike me as a HERD ANIMAL, Jerry. But ARE you? I'd be very disappointed to learn that you are. I call them the way I see them. I'm looking for: Value Added Sophistication Elegant Interface Room for Growth & Expansion No: "Eat Your Spinach" Platitudes... ...happy campers have chimed in many times saying how much they liked Vista and how well it runs on systems I would think are below FAA minimums, so, go figure. Are you PILOT -- or just like colorful expressions? g 'Nuff Said. Cheers, DSH |
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DSH "Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:30:01 -0800, "Justin" wrote: Much agreed! I use my power for: 1. Towing 2. 0-50ish very quickly 3. 80+ on the open road to....fun stuff... So you also admit to breaking speed limits and you're a reckless driver. What other dumb things you do besides waste time in this newsgroup? |
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"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
... I've lost track of what you have, think you passed up the SRT8 until the MDS bug is fixed and bought your wife a car instead. Is that right? If yes, what are you driving that can tow AND be able to take on a Beemer? I knew I'd get my ass kicked taking on a 735i but it was still fun. I'd be a close race, likely in favor of the BMW even with an SRT8, those things scream, albeit at over twice the price. And, I'm aware of some Audis with 450 hp that claim to do 0-50 in 4.6, which would shade an SRT8 by about 2 or 3 tenths. I have a supped up F-150. The wife has a Nitro R/T. F-150 SCrew: I tightened up the suspension Chipped New "real" cold air intake Headers Dual in / Dual out exhaust Larger TB - big mistake on the 150! Supercharged Upgraded power coils/coil packs Upgraded ignition system Removed the mechanical fan and replaced with electric Upped the gear ratio I know nothing of BMW's, other then the symbol So I don't know what it compared to. |
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"Adam Albright" wrote in message
... On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:30:01 -0800, "Justin" wrote: Much agreed! I use my power for: 1. Towing 2. 0-50ish very quickly 3. 80+ on the open road to....fun stuff... So you also admit to breaking speed limits and you're a reckless driver. What other dumb things you do besides waste time in this newsgroup? In regards to the 80+, yup, I sure do. As for the rest of the flame bait. Nice try! |
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Well, at the very least aren't the cores recyclable?
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... Today, Justin made these interesting comments ... "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... I usually have to hit my breaks by the time I get on the freeway from the ramp I prefer to hit my BRAKES than my BREAKS! grin Oops Well, since we're talking about the genre of priii, how do owners dispose of the old batteries, in the ground water of a land-fill? I asked a sales guy at a dealer that and he didn't know. They haven't had to deal with it yet I guess. He had to ask a few other people for someone told him to tell customers to bring it to them and they'll deal with it. Yes, not around long enough. I looked at 3 different studies last year wrt the real break-even on gas vs battery vs whatever. One was the EPA, one was the Detroit News, and can't remember who the 3rd one was, some "independent" source. Results were, as you'd expect, "mixed", but was about like this: if you drive a lot on gas, your battery will last longer, if you idle a lot and/or drive in winter especially at night with a big electrical draw, it won't. Duh! Then, if you don't drive a lot, the battery will die, read, fail to fully recharge and give its full life and power. Bottom line from my read of these 3 studies: the break-even is very difficult to attain at anything less than at least $4/gallon, begins to make sense at $5, and assumes you can get at least 4 years from a set of batteries which seem to vary in the $1800-2500 range to replace. At best, this is a GREAT confusion to them who really want the overall economy, not just be green. What makes this so tought to nail down is the exact definitions of various terms, like driving cycle, expected/predicted gas prices, varying mileage/year estimates, the premium of the hybrid car over an equivalent economy sedan from the same brand, and tax incentives. The latter is biting some folks in the ass as they've discovered to their sorrow that the car they paid big bucks for sold over the tax incentive max number, something in the 60,000 range, I believe, so they need to add a big chunk of change back into the equation. Again, this is all mixed, as in mixed up, but I have read a number of reports asserting that hybrid car sales are softening but sales of smaller CUVs are rising as are compact and mid-size cars with high-mileage 4 bangers, while the big trucks and SUVs continue to sink, especially those with huge engines, certainly our HEMIs and the gigantic displacement Ford and GM stuff. Seems clear to me that a shake-out is coming to the entire industry as people's tastes and their pocketbooks change, and their memories on gas prices du jour remain very short, complicating the whole mess by big iron rising and falling almost with every 10 or 20 cent change in gas. I will close with this: if I look at just the inflation rate back from, say the late 1960s, throughout even the artificial price spikes of the early 1970s, into today, gas should be at around $4.50 or so, maybe $4.75, assuming also constant taxation. So, while nobody likes gas at $3.25 or what is about $2.50 in my neck of the woods right now, we'd all like it a whole lot less at $4.75. And, that, BTW, pretty much squashes the conspiracy theories about Big Oil and Big Government conspiring with Big Car Companies to screw the consumer. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ...
You don't strike me as a HERD ANIMAL, Jerry. But ARE you? I'd be very disappointed to learn that you are. Nope, hardly a herd animal, neither lead nor follow. I recognize people for what they contibute to me or the greater good in any NG I comment in, and in their demeanor. I also start off with respect for people, and expand that positively and immediately if they are true blue and treat me with respect. For that, I am NOT a herd animal, as too many on Usenet like to show how smart they are by making others look stupid. ...happy campers have chimed in many times saying how much they liked Vista and how well it runs on systems I would think are below FAA minimums, so, go figure. Are you PILOT -- or just like colorful expressions? g For somebody who banties about $10 words, you can't see a metaphor here? No?, it should be immediately obvious and the proof is left to the reader, to wit: below FAA minimums means too little CPU, too little memory to fly, have to go on instruments, like a wall clock to monitor speed of your work. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... I've lost track of what you have, think you passed up the SRT8 until the MDS bug is fixed and bought your wife a car instead. Is that right? If yes, what are you driving that can tow AND be able to take on a Beemer? I knew I'd get my ass kicked taking on a 735i but it was still fun. I'd be a close race, likely in favor of the BMW even with an SRT8, those things scream, albeit at over twice the price. And, I'm aware of some Audis with 450 hp that claim to do 0-50 in 4.6, which would shade an SRT8 by about 2 or 3 tenths. I have a supped up F-150. The wife has a Nitro R/T. F-150 SCrew: I tightened up the suspension Chipped New "real" cold air intake Headers Dual in / Dual out exhaust Larger TB - big mistake on the 150! Supercharged Upgraded power coils/coil packs Upgraded ignition system Removed the mechanical fan and replaced with electric Upped the gear ratio But, does yours have the obligatory chrome plated coffee cans on redneck dual exhausts? Been looking at Nitros, the new Sebring, and the little cousin of the Charger, the Avenger. Like them all. Didn't know that Nitros, besides having unique sheet metal and trim from the NEW Jeep Liberty, also have a 5" longer W/B for added rear leg room. I know nothing of BMW's, other then the symbol So I don't know what it compared to. The series, 3, 5, 7, refer to size, features, performance, and price, and there are several numbers within a series, although I'm no expert, I think the higher the number the bigger/quicker/pricier it is. A standard 5.7L HEMI is about the performance class of a 535, maybe a shade slower maybe a bit quicker. Gots ta ask ya, are you an aligned Mopar buyer, i.e., employee/retiree, supplier of the company, or just like the cars and perhaps know people who can get you a good employee discount? Would like to know the good, the bad, and the ugly in your likes, dislikes, successes, failures, etc. I'm guesing you've had good luck on both the qualitative and quantitative measures of a "good" vehicle, so I always ask what people's criteria are and how they came to be largely a Mopar owner. It's been said that brand loyalty in the U.S. is an obsolete concept, as people buy what catches their fancy, has real or perceived superlatie quality, and is overall not only exiting but has good value. This last usually means reasonable price, but can also get into mpg, ability to exceed your expectations, etc. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Today, Justin made these interesting comments ...
Well, at the very least aren't the cores recyclable? I would think so. The EPA pretty much forces recylability on things like that, although older TVs and most, maybe all computer equipment is still verboten because if the metals used and toxic material inside components, which is mainly smoke, the kind where, when it blow up billowing smoke, someone says "where was all that smoke before? grin But, increasingly expensive landfill space and necessary segration of garbage according to its rate of decay and toxicity is being a real problem in most regions. In my state, the Canadians cut a deal decades ago with then Gov. John Engler to dump their garbage in our fills, smart guys them. We've finally gotten them to at least give us a timetable - runs into 2013 or so - to stop the dumping and to certify the contents and makeup on the trucks coming over the Detroit River. "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... Today, Justin made these interesting comments ... "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... I usually have to hit my breaks by the time I get on the freeway from the ramp I prefer to hit my BRAKES than my BREAKS! grin Oops Well, since we're talking about the genre of priii, how do owners dispose of the old batteries, in the ground water of a land-fill? I asked a sales guy at a dealer that and he didn't know. They haven't had to deal with it yet I guess. He had to ask a few other people for someone told him to tell customers to bring it to them and they'll deal with it. Yes, not around long enough. I looked at 3 different studies last year wrt the real break-even on gas vs battery vs whatever. One was the EPA, one was the Detroit News, and can't remember who the 3rd one was, some "independent" source. Results were, as you'd expect, "mixed", but was about like this: if you drive a lot on gas, your battery will last longer, if you idle a lot and/or drive in winter especially at night with a big electrical draw, it won't. Duh! Then, if you don't drive a lot, the battery will die, read, fail to fully recharge and give its full life and power. Bottom line from my read of these 3 studies: the break-even is very difficult to attain at anything less than at least $4/gallon, begins to make sense at $5, and assumes you can get at least 4 years from a set of batteries which seem to vary in the $1800-2500 range to replace. At best, this is a GREAT confusion to them who really want the overall economy, not just be green. What makes this so tought to nail down is the exact definitions of various terms, like driving cycle, expected/predicted gas prices, varying mileage/year estimates, the premium of the hybrid car over an equivalent economy sedan from the same brand, and tax incentives. The latter is biting some folks in the ass as they've discovered to their sorrow that the car they paid big bucks for sold over the tax incentive max number, something in the 60,000 range, I believe, so they need to add a big chunk of change back into the equation. Again, this is all mixed, as in mixed up, but I have read a number of reports asserting that hybrid car sales are softening but sales of smaller CUVs are rising as are compact and mid-size cars with high-mileage 4 bangers, while the big trucks and SUVs continue to sink, especially those with huge engines, certainly our HEMIs and the gigantic displacement Ford and GM stuff. Seems clear to me that a shake-out is coming to the entire industry as people's tastes and their pocketbooks change, and their memories on gas prices du jour remain very short, complicating the whole mess by big iron rising and falling almost with every 10 or 20 cent change in gas. I will close with this: if I look at just the inflation rate back from, say the late 1960s, throughout even the artificial price spikes of the early 1970s, into today, gas should be at around $4.50 or so, maybe $4.75, assuming also constant taxation. So, while nobody likes gas at $3.25 or what is about $2.50 in my neck of the woods right now, we'd all like it a whole lot less at $4.75. And, that, BTW, pretty much squashes the conspiracy theories about Big Oil and Big Government conspiring with Big Car Companies to screw the consumer. -- HP, aka Jerry -- HP, aka Jerry |
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Ahhhh, so you are NOT a pilot and just like colorful, bar-talk expressions.
Got It... I didn't say I didn't understand what you meant.... You got that wrong too. g DSH Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... ...happy campers have chimed in many times saying how much they liked Vista and how well it runs on systems I would think are below FAA minimums, so, go figure. Are you PILOT -- or just like colorful expressions? g For somebody who banties [sic] about $10 words, you can't see a metaphor here? No?, it should be immediately obvious and the proof is left to the reader, to wit: below FAA minimums means too little CPU, too little memory to fly, have to go on instruments, like a wall clock to monitor speed of your work. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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