WLMD causing MSN live to FREEZE randomly!!! (rant included)

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my list
of most horrible applications of the decade!

Good, now we don't have to listen to your silly rants. If you were as
careful as you claim you are, you wouldn't have any problems with WLMD. Of
course it's easier to blame Microsoft than to accept that maybe, just maybe
one of the other items on you "list of downloads" could possibly have been to
blame.

You can rant, so can I.

"MicroFox" wrote:

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my list
of most horrible applications of the decade!

Hi MicroFox,

My goodness, you are in a Tissy!! Do you feel better now?

After over 83 years hanging around this world I have found out
that the "Blame Game" is just an exercise in futility, and is a waste
of time and effort.

Do yourself a favour, take a break, hoist a couple, and relax!

If I was close by, they would be on me.

Keep smiling

Uncle Gus
"MicroFox" - wrote in message
...
Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could
be causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last
for 20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I
discovered that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various
portable msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was
immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded
their process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no
spyware because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a
spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed
the last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now
incompatibility and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant
rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in
the bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my
list of most horrible applications of the decade!

The way he was going I was thinking maybe the hemorrhoids were getting to
him from sitting there so long.


"Larry E" wrote in message
...
Good, now we don't have to listen to your silly rants. If you were as
careful as you claim you are, you wouldn't have any problems with WLMD.
Of
course it's easier to blame Microsoft than to accept that maybe, just
maybe
one of the other items on you "list of downloads" could possibly have been
to
blame.

You can rant, so can I.

I am very relaxed...

My post was to inform the live developers that might have come here
to fix their application. I am doing it with a style I chose for this post.

My rant was like this on purpose to get their attention.

Good manners dont always get the message accross...

I care not if they like me or not... perhaps they will hate me...Its ok.

But my purpose is just, the attitude of this post is only superficial...

I am a man that cares.



"Uncle Gus" wrote in message
...
Hi MicroFox,

My goodness, you are in a Tissy!! Do you feel better now?

After over 83 years hanging around this world I have found out
that the "Blame Game" is just an exercise in futility, and is a waste
of time and effort.

Do yourself a favour, take a break, hoist a couple, and relax!

If I was close by, they would be on me.

Keep smiling

Uncle Gus
"MicroFox" - wrote in message
...
Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could
be causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last
for 20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I
discovered that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various
portable msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was
immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded
their process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no
spyware because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a
spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed
the last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now
incompatibility and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant
rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in
the bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my
list of most horrible applications of the decade!

Sorry MicroFox but a "man who cares" offers constructive criticism, not
destructive. You said you uninstalled it, so why do you even care any more
what anyone thinks.

"MicroFox" wrote:

I am very relaxed...

My post was to inform the live developers that might have come here
to fix their application. I am doing it with a style I chose for this post.

My rant was like this on purpose to get their attention.

Good manners dont always get the message accross...

I care not if they like me or not... perhaps they will hate me...Its ok.

But my purpose is just, the attitude of this post is only superficial...

I am a man that cares.



"Uncle Gus" wrote in message
...
Hi MicroFox,

My goodness, you are in a Tissy!! Do you feel better now?

After over 83 years hanging around this world I have found out
that the "Blame Game" is just an exercise in futility, and is a waste
of time and effort.

Do yourself a favour, take a break, hoist a couple, and relax!

If I was close by, they would be on me.

Keep smiling

Uncle Gus
"MicroFox" - wrote in message
...
Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could
be causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last
for 20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I
discovered that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various
portable msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was
immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded
their process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no
spyware because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a
spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed
the last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now
incompatibility and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant
rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in
the bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my
list of most horrible applications of the decade!

If you were as careful as you claim you are, you wouldn't have any
problems with WLMD.

So that means people having problems with WLMD are not as careful as we
should have. In terms of what? Kindly enlighten us.

And you don't have any problems with WLMD at this point, and if you were the
product manager, you would release it?

The only way qualifying you (and others with different opinions) are not
rants is to provide tangible facts for what he said is not true.

Otherwise, you are just as annoying as those you condemned.

Blind follower is not smarter; they just do know what they're talking about.


"Larry E" wrote in message
...
Good, now we don't have to listen to your silly rants. If you were as
careful as you claim you are, you wouldn't have any problems with WLMD.
Of
course it's easier to blame Microsoft than to accept that maybe, just
maybe
one of the other items on you "list of downloads" could possibly have been
to
blame.

You can rant, so can I.

"MicroFox" wrote:

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could
be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last
for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I
discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various
portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded
their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no
spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware
itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed
the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now
incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in
the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my
list
of most horrible applications of the decade!

I uninstalled because it created problems with messenger...

Once I uninstalled I had no other problem!!!

I will probably install again if the fix the next version


"Larry E" wrote in message
...
Sorry MicroFox but a "man who cares" offers constructive criticism, not
destructive. You said you uninstalled it, so why do you even care any
more
what anyone thinks.

"MicroFox" wrote:

I am very relaxed...

My post was to inform the live developers that might have come here
to fix their application. I am doing it with a style I chose for this
post.

My rant was like this on purpose to get their attention.

Good manners dont always get the message accross...

I care not if they like me or not... perhaps they will hate me...Its ok.

But my purpose is just, the attitude of this post is only superficial...

I am a man that cares.



"Uncle Gus" wrote in message
...
Hi MicroFox,

My goodness, you are in a Tissy!! Do you feel better now?

After over 83 years hanging around this world I have found out
that the "Blame Game" is just an exercise in futility, and is a waste
of time and effort.

Do yourself a favour, take a break, hoist a couple, and relax!

If I was close by, they would be on me.

Keep smiling

Uncle Gus
"MicroFox" - wrote in message
...
Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for
the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that
could
be causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would
last
for 20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I
discovered that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for
more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various
portable msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was
immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded
their process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no
spyware because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a
spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have
installed
the last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing
when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that
take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now
incompatibility and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster...
rant
rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs
in
the bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on
my
list of most horrible applications of the decade!

Dear whoever you are,

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ITS A'LIVE for me Too!!!!! Seriously i need this to be
fixed too. My msn is actin like a bitch. I have WLM 8 and it was bitchin,
then i put WML 8 PLus! annd still bein a bitch. Female Dog.... I'm not gonna
point fingers, I recently tried deleting this key in regedit cuz on another
forum it told me to:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger\ Policies

Didnt work. I'm just as ****ed as you are cuz my friends think im dead :P
lol. Anyways..... I had a feelin my messenger lags were cookin up somethin
from the begining. Somehow, on my windows vista, it never freezes 99% of the
time!

On your side,
-Soroush Torkian










"MicroFox" wrote:

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my list
of most horrible applications of the decade!

Thanks. I appreciate your rant. My Live infused laptop is frozen with all
of my work on it. It won't work long enough for me to dump Live forever.

"MicroFox" wrote:

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my list
of most horrible applications of the decade!

Something happened to my website, aka mysapce...
I tried to get in, when it says we cant find it!
now i went into windows live gallery and installed some things there
it may be becuz of that...
if u guys can get my website back, i will be so gratefull...
if u can tplease delete it, caz i want to create a new one if so...
im very upset by this and hope you can fix it
or at least tell me what to do!

"MicroFox" wrote:

Microsoft, you blew it again....

After a week of installing-uninstalling live messenger, looking for the
traces of
unknown dlls, or shell extensions, services or any other thing that could be
causing the very annoying random freezes when chatting that would last for
20 seconds then go away for a few minutes and come back again...I discovered
that it was WLMD that was the culprit!!!!

I must have tried to reinstall live messenger (various versions) for more
than 15 times!!! Aggravating is an understatement...

It effected NOT only messenger live, but msn messenger and various portable
msn and live messengers I had.. the ONLY messenger that was immune
was WINDOWS MESSENGER.

I used the most advanced system diagnostics to monitor all dlls loaded their
process time, what other internet explorer add ons were loaded,
not to mention that I did several spyware scans (of course I had no spyware
because I am very careful), little did I know that WLMD is a spyware itself!

After trying to remember all the list of programs that I have installed the
last 10 days... it was WLMD that was creating the problem! lol
A Microsoft application that is made to work with messenger live!

The incompetence of Microsoft is hilarious.. but I was not laughing when
these problems were occurring.... I was pulling my hair!

WLMD is one of the worst applications I have seen... they took outlook
express and transformed into a monster!

Bad design, Bad design, did I mention bad design? Advertisments that take
half the right screen and a HUUUGE top dead space for a search
box. the left list pane is a Joke ( a bad joke),.... and now incompatibility
and freezes? This is not beta, this is a monster... rant rant rant.....
And you guys know whatthe real problem is ? They are looking for bugs in the
bug.. its a big bug! Scrap it and redesign the monstrosity!

ITS A'LIVE! Windows A'LIVE Mail Desktop!!!

Well its not alive anymore on my pc.. adios amigos... WLMD is now on my list
of most horrible applications of the decade!