OEM Licensing Question

Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

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wrote:

Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM license still carry through?


I would think not, but . . . .

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
the computer system on which that operating system was first installed.
Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
transferred." -
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...e_transfer.doc

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

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hi Kurttrail,

Thanks for your reply (and everyone elses) it's much appreciated.

The document you quoted from seems to be talking about a transfer of
license from one company/subsidiary to another. In my case I want to
transfer it to new hardware (within the same company).

Kind Regards,

Nev



wrote:

Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM license still carry through?


I would think not, but . . . .

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
the computer system on which that operating system was first installed.
Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
transferred." -
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...e_transfer.doc

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

Well, I have a store bought Windows XP. When installing it on the PC I just
built, it asks you to put in an older version to make sure it is an upgrade,
and that you have an older version to upgrade from. It wouldn't see the
files it needed to see off my old RESTORE disk the old computer came from.
It needed to be a Windows disk, not the disk that has Windows on it and a
thousand other programs that companies like Dell, HP send with there
machines. So, I had to have my dad make a copy of his old Windows 98 disk.
After installing, it noticed that some of my hardware had changed. It then
gave me an 800 number to call, and an automated system gave me the numbers I
had to use to activate XP. I then replaced yet more hardware, and had to
call the number again. I talked to a real life human being this time, but
still no problems. He just asked what I had done recently, and I told him I
got a new motherboard, proccesser, ext. They didn't have a problem with
that.

Craig

wrote in message
...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

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says...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License did not need
the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would be the active
license.

If your Volume License allows for transference to newer machines, go
right ahead and do it.
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Greetings --

You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer PC,
assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but not
the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Bruce Chambers

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wrote in message
...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

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In article
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says...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on
it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License
(Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would
this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know,
you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But
now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the
restriction on the 98 OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License
did not need
the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would
be the active
license.

If your Volume License allows for transference to newer
machines, go
right ahead and do it.
--
Donald L McDaniel
Post All replies to the Newsgroup, so that all may be
informed
================================================= =========
==

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When you installed the "upgrade" version of windows xp
using your oem copy of win 98 you then took the EULA of
the windows xp...so you can install the windows xp onto a
differnt computer now

hi Tandral,

Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License
did not need
the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would
be the active
license.

I don't quite understand what you mean ... you see, the Windows XP
Volume license is an upgrade license... and the Win98 OEM product is the
qualifying product - so you do need the Win98 OEM product.

Or I must be misunderstanding what youre saying?

Kind Regards,

Nev

hi Bruce,

You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer PC,
assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but not
the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the qualifying
product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even though
the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98 OEM
license? (which is what I was hoping for )
Or are you saying something else altogether?

Kind Regards,

Nev








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wrote in message
...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

Greetings --

You can transfer the VL Upgrade license, but it won't install
(because it's an _upgrade_) unless there's already a qualifying OS on
the destination PC.

Bruce Chambers

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Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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having both at once. -- RAH


"Nev George" wrote in message
...
hi Bruce,

You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer
PC,
assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but
not
the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the
qualifying
product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even
though
the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98
OEM
license? (which is what I was hoping for )
Or are you saying something else altogether?

Kind Regards,

Nev








Bruce Chambers

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Help us help you:
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wrote in message
...
Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We
then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume
License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this
still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are
not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that
I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the
98
OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

hi Bruce,

So if there isnt a qualifying OS on the PC, it wont even ask to insert
the media for the qualifying OS?

Nev


Greetings --

You can transfer the VL Upgrade license, but it won't install
(because it's an _upgrade_) unless there's already a qualifying OS on
the destination PC.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Nev George" wrote in message
...
hi Bruce,

You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer
PC,
assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but
not
the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the
qualifying
product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even
though
the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98
OEM
license? (which is what I was hoping for )
Or are you saying something else altogether?

Kind Regards,

Nev








Bruce Chambers

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Nev George wrote:

hi Kurttrail,

Thanks for your reply (and everyone elses) it's much appreciated.

The document you quoted from seems to be talking about a transfer of
license from one company/subsidiary to another. In my case I want to
transfer it to new hardware (within the same company).

Kind Regards,

Nev



wrote:

Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM license still carry through?


I would think not, but . . . .

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also
transfer
the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
the computer system on which that operating system was first
installed.
Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
transferred." -

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...e_transfer.doc

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
the underlying qualifying license."

And you already know the transfer terms for OEM 98. "Obviously with an
OEM version, as far as I know, you are not supposed to move it or
reinstall it to another PC."

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Greetings --

It'll ask for the media of the qualifying OS if it doesn't find it
already installed.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Nev George" wrote in message
...
hi Bruce,

So if there isnt a qualifying OS on the PC, it wont even ask to
insert
the media for the qualifying OS?

Nev