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Old March 31st 19, 07:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Managing Windows Store default apps that come with 10 - Easy!

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 08:53:28 -0500, british drama team wrote:

Isn't there a practical limit to the number of browsers you can set up,
and thus a practical limit to the number of sites you can visit?


Hi british drama team,

Yours is a logical question, which needs to be considered with perspective.
o Let me start with the overarching top-down organizational perspective

It's sort of like asking how many folders you have on your computer
o Versus how many top-level folders you actually use every day:
https://i.postimg.cc/2j1djchc/quickaccess01.jpg

Me?
o I have 3/4 of a dozen folders I constantly use every day.
{app, data, software, tmp, special, android, screenhots, upload, vpn}
o These 9 folders are fit easily within my "Quick Access" on Windows 10.
https://i.postimg.cc/KzMXx7N1/quickaccess02.jpg

How many folders does Microsoft even allow in QuickAccess?
o I'd guess it's roughly only about a dozen, right?

Same question with how many items in a typical rightclick context menu?
o The numbers change, but it's roughly around a dozen, right?

How many types of editors do you

Same question with how many apps do you edit images with
o Me? I use about half a dozen apps for editing images every day
https://i.postimg.cc/jqzZz338/quickaccess03.jpg

Same with almost any general setup question on Windows, right?
o For example, how many "special" folders do you use daily?
{Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Favorites, Screenshots, etc.}

This sort of GUI-setup question goes on all the time, right?
o How many normal-sized icons can you fit on a task bar anyway?

Lots and lots of these questions have roughly about the same answer.
o For example, how many folders do you need in your program hierarchy?

Me? I have about top-level folders which hold _everything_ I can install.
o That takes care of my menu, which has the same dozen top-levels.
o That also takes care of the archives, which use the same dozen.
o And it takes care of the program-files hiearchy, which is the same dozen.
https://i.postimg.cc/L6RKfbRD/quickaccess04.jpg

And, how many _sub_ folders do each of those top-level folders need?
o Here's just my editor sub folder, which has about a dozen "editor types".
https://i.postimg.cc/d33Mnv8r/quickaccess05.jpg

Obviously I _think_ about how to set up a system GUI all the time.
o Most oft-used GUIs allow for about a dozen elements in them

For example, the phone hierarchy is almost the same dozen things:
o https://i.postimg.cc/rs3t4VV6/homescreen00.jpg

As is the iPad, which has a similar dozen or so hierarchical folders:
o http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4567626charger04.jpg

Even within any one homescreen folder, subfolders are about the same:
https://i.postimg.cc/SsLffRyG/delimiter01.jpg

Do you notice a common pattern yet?
o The order of magnitude for "common things" is about a dozen or so.

Your question is apropos, where we think logically in overall perspective:
o How many reliable browsers are there?
o I'd say there are "at least" an easy dozen, right?

Off the cuff, how many _types_ of sites do you visit anyway?
o I'd say it's not more than a dozen, right?

Then why not set up each browser specifically for a class of sites.
o You can probably do that with a third of a dozen browsers, in reality.

Off the cuff, how many of those browsers are IP privacy browsers?
o I'd say about a quarter of them are _designed_ for privacy

The rest you can tailor for "pseudo privacy" if that's what you need.

For example, how many browsers can be set up in "incognito mode"?
o Let's say about three quarters, at least (maybe all).

Off the cuff, how many of those browsers are merely general purpose?
o I'd say offhand, a quarter to a half might be"general purpose" browsers

The point is that you _can_ THINK about your browsing activity
o Just like Microsoft _thought_ about the QuickAccess toolbar

You can arrange your browsing activity within about a dozen areas.
o Then you use one browser for each arrangement

How you arrange your browsers will be different than how I arrange it
o Just like how my mobile device home screens are different from yours
ANDROID: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4246002homescreen01.jpg
iOS: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8196701homescreen02.jpg

The point is that you don't look at the question at the bottom level
o You don't ask "how many Internet sites do I visit? every day?"

So much as you ask the top-level question:
o How many types or classes of Internet sites do I visit every day?

Me?
o I log into about a quarter of a dozen Internet "social" type sites.
o And then I habitually visit another quarter of a dozen common sites.

That leaves about half a dozen browsers for the other types of sites.

Interestingly, I looked up how many web browsers exist for Windows.
o https://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/browsers-for-windows

There are 83 Windows "web browsers" on that page (not all are useful).
o Acoo Browser
o Amaya
o AOL Explorer
o Arora
o Avant Browser
o Baidu Browser
o Beonex Communicator
o Bitty Browser
o BriskBard
o Browse3D
o Chrome
o Chromium
o Citrio
o Coc Coc Browser
o CometBird
o Comodo Dragon
o Comodo IceDragon
o Conkeror
o Crazy Browser
o Crusta Browser
o Deepnet Explorer
o Dooble
o Edge
o Enigma Browser
o Epic
o Firefox (also known as Mozilla Firefox)
o Flock (web browser)
o GNU IceCat
o Grail
o GreenBrowser
o Internet Explorer
o Iron Browser
o K-Meleon
o KidRocket
o KidZui
o Konqueror
o Kylo
o Links
o linx
o Lobo Java Web Browser
o Lunascape
o Maxthon
o MenuBox
o Midori
o Nano
o NeoPlanet
o Netscape Navigator
o Nuke Browser
o Opera
o Otter Browser
o Pale Moon
o Pink browser
o Polarity Browser
o QtWeb
o QupZilla
o Rockmelt
o Safari
o SafeZone Browser
o SeaMonkey
o ShenzBrowser
o Sleipnir
o SlimBoat
o SlimBrowser
o Slimjet
o Sogou browser
o space time
o The Classic Browser
o Titan Browser
o Tor
o Torch Browser
o TT
o UC Browser
o Ultrabrowser
o Vivaldi
o Waterfox
o Wyzo media browser
o xB Browser
o xombrero
o Xtravo
o Yandex Browser
o ZAC Browser
o 360 Extreme Explorer
o 360 Security Browser

Second, what do you do when you're on browser A and you want to click a
link that would take you to a site that belongs to browser B? Do you
copy the link and paste it into browser B?


This is _another_ apropos question. which I appreciate
o Since I'm still honing my overall overarching browser philosophy solution

Once you "log in" to anything, you have to take more precautions.
o You need fewer precautions (IMHO), if you don't log in.

The answer to the question varies with the type of site that I'm visiting.
o As an example, if I'm on a car forum site, I stay on _that_ forum.

If I need an external link, I use a _different_ browser to open it (usually).
o That different browser is usually the "general purpose" browser

Notice that the general-purpose browser doesn't know my "login".
o Also note the general purpose browser has the most wide-open settings.

The general purpose browser is for what you're talking about, I think.

But if I'm logged into a social networking site, I _stay_ only on that site.
o Bear in mind there are zillions of "hidden" links then tied to your login
o Which is why _that_ browser is one that is locked up more securely

And if I'm watching YouTube videos, I stay with that browser also.
o At least until the session is no longer needed

When I close a browser, it "forgets" as much as it can be set to forget.

Almost never do I need to "surf the net", where I'm still forming the
top-dozen "places" I visit with a browser, so I do admit that, while the
overarching philosophy is sound, I haven't gotten to the point of complete
organization (which generally takes a few years) like I have long ago done
with my Windows, Android, and iOS menus, folders, and app hierarchies.

Third, what do you do when you're hovering over a link that you'd like
to visit, but it's not a link for which you have a browser configured?
Do you just say no, or do you go set up yet another browser?


Again, you ask EXCELLENT questions, all of which I need to think about,
philosophically, to fit into a well-honed browser security approach.

Offhand, I don't generally "hover", where what I do is I decide if I want
to go to a link, where if I want to, whether I use the _same_ browser I'm
in or whether I use the general purpose browser, is dependent mostly on
whether I've already logged in.

If I'm logged in, I _never_ use the same browser.
If I'm _already_ in the general-purpose browser, then I click away.

In fact, when I'm in the general purpose browser, I'm just like everyone
else, in that I don't use much (if any) precautions, other than all my
browsers are configured to deny the microphone, camera, payment system,
etc., and all are configured to dump as much as they can be configured for,
upon closing.

Fourth, many people tend to revisit certain sites over and over, which
would lend itself to your use model, but I'm guessing that the revisit
percentage is somewhere around 30-70%. What do you do with the other
30-70% of sites that are new, never before visited, and only visited
once?


All your questions are apropos, and thoughtfully presented.
o As you might guess, there is a general-purpose browser set up

The only critical rule in the general purpose browser is that "no login" is
ever allowed to be on that browser, ever. That's a hard rule.

In practice, it's kind of ironic that my general purpose browser is
generally set up to be the crappiest browser I have, which, as you might
imagine, is usually a "Windows" browser, bearing in mind there are only
three main classes of web browsers that I can think of:
o Mozilla-based browsers (e.g., Seamonkey, Palemoon, Icedragon, etc.)
o Chromium-based browsers (e.g., Opera, Epic, Brave, etc.)
o Windows-based browsers (e.g., Edge, IE, etc.)

Are there any other broad GUI classes?

We have more questions, but we'll stop there to begin our evaluation
into this new use model to see if it makes sense for us.


I very much appreciate your thoughtful questions, where I hope I put at
least as much energy into documenting the answers as you did in posing the
apropos questions.

I think the _key_ question is how do we ARRANGE or ORGANIZE our browsing?

Clearly I "organize" things, based on an overarching "philosophy", where
I'm almost never random (except when that's part of the philosophy), and
where the final organizational need arises slowly over time like a Stoke's
sedimentation structure.

With browsers, for example, we all started with Netscape (I think there was
one before that even, right?) in the days of "dogpile", and then we slowly
got more complex from there, when Netscape showed up, and then Microsoft
got into the game, and then a million other things happened like privacy
issues, each of which spawned another browser or five.

At this point, my question to everyone is HAVE YOU THOUGHT about what your
browser philosophy is?

In the initial analysis, I think a critical question to answer is:
o What classes of browser strategy exist out there?

For example:

Some people must be using a one-browser fits all, approach, right?
o Those people _need_ a Swiss Army Knife browser
o It doesn't do anything well - but it does everything.

Others use the customized browser approach (which is my goal)
o Any one browser is set up for only one class of browsing activity
o It does one thing well - and only one thing well (what it's set up for)

I'm sure there is an "in between" model, which is a Goldilocks approach
o They have _some_ secure browsers (set up for privacy)
o They have some general purpose browsers (set up for content viewing)

My question for the community at large...
o What are the FUNDAMANTAL browser philosophies we can choose from?
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