So what's really missing in Windows 10?

On 8/2/2015 1:30 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Al Drake wrote on 08/01/2015 7:42 PM:
Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

I just don't get it.


???
DVD drive still works and is present - installed Acronis 2015 earlier
today. I suspect you meant playing some form of entertainment in the DVD
drive.

Office 2013 was intact and functional




I've tried every type of media available. Old music DVDs and those
that are used to install applications but drive is not showing. I'd
replace it if it didn't show in BIOS.

Like I mentioned in other posts, I plan on another try at upgrading
this time from a clean install of Win7.

On 8/2/2015 7:48 AM, Dan Schumacher wrote:


"Al Drake" wrote in message ...

Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

I just don't get it.

-----------------------------------------------------
Al,

Unfortunately, your post seems to be a bit misleading.

1. You can't blame MSFT if you don't buy/build a PC with a DVD drive in
it. I have been using my BD/DVD ever since loading the Tech Preview back
in February. And I have loaded an old Office 2007 using a DVD.
2. Office has never been part of Windows so it is always a separate
expense. But why can't you reload Office on your device? Is it a
bundled OEM version that is only good on a different piece of hardware?
3. I don't use Power DVD on my Windows 10 system so I can't speak to
its ability to run under Windows 10. But the Cyberlink web page says it
is Windows 10 ready.
4. Is your complaint that you don't have a DVD, or that you need a
separate piece of software? Power DVD Pro and Ultra both appear to
support BD.

There are also many free alternatives to Media Center so you might ask
in one of those groups; I don't do a lot of video work on my PC so I am
probably not the best person to ask for a recommendation.

Regards, Dan

Yes Dan, I shouldn't place the blame anywhere until I resolve this
issue. Like I mentioned earlier the DVD has been present from day one
and was used to upgrade to Win10. I'm sure there is a simple explanation
which I've resolve sooner or later.

Thanks for your reply.

On 8/3/2015 6:26 AM, Crkeehn wrote:
On 8/2/2015 7:48 AM, Dan Schumacher wrote:


"Al Drake" wrote in message ...

Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

I just don't get it.

-----------------------------------------------------
Al,

Unfortunately, your post seems to be a bit misleading.

1. You can't blame MSFT if you don't buy/build a PC with a DVD drive in
it. I have been using my BD/DVD ever since loading the Tech Preview back
in February. And I have loaded an old Office 2007 using a DVD.
2. Office has never been part of Windows so it is always a separate
expense. But why can't you reload Office on your device? Is it a
bundled OEM version that is only good on a different piece of hardware?
3. I don't use Power DVD on my Windows 10 system so I can't speak to
its ability to run under Windows 10. But the Cyberlink web page says it
is Windows 10 ready.
4. Is your complaint that you don't have a DVD, or that you need a
separate piece of software? Power DVD Pro and Ultra both appear to
support BD.

There are also many free alternatives to Media Center so you might ask
in one of those groups; I don't do a lot of video work on my PC so I am
probably not the best person to ask for a recommendation.

Regards, Dan

Cyberlink Power DVD 12 is is installed on my PC, it came with the
computer. When I inserted a DVD into the drive, I was immediately given
the option of using Power DVD to play the disk. It worked fine.

I am also puzzled about the claim in reference to Microsoft Office. I
have Office 10 installed and did so prior to updating to Windows 10.
It's still there. I also have the "lite" versions of Word 10 and Excel
10 on my laptop, they came installed on it.(Forgive me, I forget what
the proper name is for the programs.) With the laptop updated to
Windows 10, the programs are still there.

Carl

Thanks for your input Carl. I'm happy to learn that there are no real
issues with Windows 10 so all the problems I'm experiencing are related
to my upgrade install/system. I know I will get this working sooner or
later.

Regards.

Al

On 2015-08-03, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/2/2015 7:48 AM, Dan Schumacher wrote:


"Al Drake" wrote in message ...

Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

I just don't get it.

-----------------------------------------------------
Al,

Unfortunately, your post seems to be a bit misleading.

1. You can't blame MSFT if you don't buy/build a PC with a DVD drive in
it. I have been using my BD/DVD ever since loading the Tech Preview back
in February. And I have loaded an old Office 2007 using a DVD.
2. Office has never been part of Windows so it is always a separate
expense. But why can't you reload Office on your device? Is it a
bundled OEM version that is only good on a different piece of hardware?
3. I don't use Power DVD on my Windows 10 system so I can't speak to
its ability to run under Windows 10. But the Cyberlink web page says it
is Windows 10 ready.
4. Is your complaint that you don't have a DVD, or that you need a
separate piece of software? Power DVD Pro and Ultra both appear to
support BD.

There are also many free alternatives to Media Center so you might ask
in one of those groups; I don't do a lot of video work on my PC so I am
probably not the best person to ask for a recommendation.

Regards, Dan

Yes Dan, I shouldn't place the blame anywhere until I resolve this
issue. Like I mentioned earlier the DVD has been present from day one
and was used to upgrade to Win10. I'm sure there is a simple explanation
which I've resolve sooner or later.

Thanks for your reply.


I just used my old dvd drive to install the software form my portable
ecg monitor under win10; the drive is an internal dvd connected via
sataII.

Off hand, I would say it could be m$'s driver as I had a problem with
my 3TB Hitachi usb3 drive in win8. Someone in the m$ forum claimed
that it is the manufactors' problem as the mf's didn't comply with the
usb3 specs. Interesting that the usb3 Hitachi was reformatted under
win7 & had worked out-of-box as my backup of the nas drive.

Then under win8.1, a miracle happened in that it worked again as
but it was now recognized! I already bought another drive as the
prices plummeted. Perhaps the gremlins found out I bought another
hard drive & so allowed the old drive to work.........

On 02/08/2015 06:55, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/1/2015 8:35 PM, Big Al wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 8/1/2015 8:13 PM:
On 8/1/2015 6:42 PM, Al Drake wrote:
Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

DVD drive works OK in muy 2 systems.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I Don't use it
I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good
Works for me
.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Haven't tried any
Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do
they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

As I said all this DVD stuff works OK here, Maybe a bad drive, I had
to replace one about a week ago.
I just don't get it.



Regards, Rene

Yep. My DVD works great here.

Well that's encouraging. I have been searching and came up with
nothing but the one that came with Win7 IF you had the Media Center to
begin with.



What exactly is missing?

Is it the drive icon in 'This Computer'

or the ability to play DVD videos?

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

On 8/3/2015 7:54 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 02/08/2015 06:55, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/1/2015 8:35 PM, Big Al wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 8/1/2015 8:13 PM:
On 8/1/2015 6:42 PM, Al Drake wrote:
Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

DVD drive works OK in muy 2 systems.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I Don't use it
I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good
Works for me
.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Haven't tried any
Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do
they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

As I said all this DVD stuff works OK here, Maybe a bad drive, I had
to replace one about a week ago.
I just don't get it.



Regards, Rene

Yep. My DVD works great here.

Well that's encouraging. I have been searching and came up with
nothing but the one that came with Win7 IF you had the Media Center to
begin with.



What exactly is missing?

Is it the drive icon in 'This Computer'

or the ability to play DVD videos?


Actually my problem is solved now that I started over and did another
upgrade. I guess I'll never know what was really going on but the drive
was totally missing in the OS and did not respond in any way while
working fine doing the upgrade and detected in BIOS.

On 8/3/2015 2:22 PM, lew wrote:
On 2015-08-03, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/2/2015 7:48 AM, Dan Schumacher wrote:


"Al Drake" wrote in message ...

Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

I just don't get it.

-----------------------------------------------------
Al,

Unfortunately, your post seems to be a bit misleading.

1. You can't blame MSFT if you don't buy/build a PC with a DVD drive in
it. I have been using my BD/DVD ever since loading the Tech Preview back
in February. And I have loaded an old Office 2007 using a DVD.
2. Office has never been part of Windows so it is always a separate
expense. But why can't you reload Office on your device? Is it a
bundled OEM version that is only good on a different piece of hardware?
3. I don't use Power DVD on my Windows 10 system so I can't speak to
its ability to run under Windows 10. But the Cyberlink web page says it
is Windows 10 ready.
4. Is your complaint that you don't have a DVD, or that you need a
separate piece of software? Power DVD Pro and Ultra both appear to
support BD.

There are also many free alternatives to Media Center so you might ask
in one of those groups; I don't do a lot of video work on my PC so I am
probably not the best person to ask for a recommendation.

Regards, Dan

Yes Dan, I shouldn't place the blame anywhere until I resolve this
issue. Like I mentioned earlier the DVD has been present from day one
and was used to upgrade to Win10. I'm sure there is a simple explanation
which I've resolve sooner or later.

Thanks for your reply.


I just used my old dvd drive to install the software form my portable
ecg monitor under win10; the drive is an internal dvd connected via
sataII.

Off hand, I would say it could be m$'s driver as I had a problem with
my 3TB Hitachi usb3 drive in win8. Someone in the m$ forum claimed
that it is the manufactors' problem as the mf's didn't comply with the
usb3 specs. Interesting that the usb3 Hitachi was reformatted under
win7 & had worked out-of-box as my backup of the nas drive.

Then under win8.1, a miracle happened in that it worked again as
but it was now recognized! I already bought another drive as the
prices plummeted. Perhaps the gremlins found out I bought another
hard drive & so allowed the old drive to work.........

Those gremmies have had their fun with me. I now have a full
compliment of assorted hardware including an external USB DVD drive and
several USB3 HHDs.

On 2015-08-04, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/3/2015 7:54 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 02/08/2015 06:55, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/1/2015 8:35 PM, Big Al wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 8/1/2015 8:13 PM:
On 8/1/2015 6:42 PM, Al Drake wrote:
Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

DVD drive works OK in muy 2 systems.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I Don't use it
I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good
Works for me
.

Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Haven't tried any
Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do
they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

As I said all this DVD stuff works OK here, Maybe a bad drive, I had
to replace one about a week ago.
I just don't get it.



Regards, Rene

Yep. My DVD works great here.

Well that's encouraging. I have been searching and came up with
nothing but the one that came with Win7 IF you had the Media Center to
begin with.



What exactly is missing?

Is it the drive icon in 'This Computer'

or the ability to play DVD videos?


Actually my problem is solved now that I started over and did another
upgrade. I guess I'll never know what was really going on but the drive
was totally missing in the OS and did not respond in any way while
working fine doing the upgrade and detected in BIOS.



Wonder if the upgrade also used the internet to download the modules
instead of only from the microsoft. Could be some interneted computers
are on a slow or erratic connection; could be the problem in not
knowing where the upgrade source is.

lew wrote:
On 2015-08-04, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/3/2015 7:54 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
On 02/08/2015 06:55, Al Drake wrote:
On 8/1/2015 8:35 PM, Big Al wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote on 8/1/2015 8:13 PM:
On 8/1/2015 6:42 PM, Al Drake wrote:
Anyone care to add to the list of what's missing in Windows 10?

No DVD drive so no installing all the software you have.

DVD drive works OK in muy 2 systems.

No Microsoft office that you paid good money for.

I Don't use it
I have Cyberlink PowerDVD 15. That's no good
Works for me
.
Blue-ray disks can't be played.

Haven't tried any
Microsoft doesn't want you to use a DVD drive for some reason. Do
they
want you to use all new software that phones home from now on?

As I said all this DVD stuff works OK here, Maybe a bad drive, I had
to replace one about a week ago.
I just don't get it.


Regards, Rene

Yep. My DVD works great here.
Well that's encouraging. I have been searching and came up with
nothing but the one that came with Win7 IF you had the Media Center to
begin with.


What exactly is missing?

Is it the drive icon in 'This Computer'

or the ability to play DVD videos?

Actually my problem is solved now that I started over and did another
upgrade. I guess I'll never know what was really going on but the drive
was totally missing in the OS and did not respond in any way while
working fine doing the upgrade and detected in BIOS.



Wonder if the upgrade also used the internet to download the modules
instead of only from the microsoft. Could be some interneted computers
are on a slow or erratic connection; could be the problem in not
knowing where the upgrade source is.

Doesn't matter where the upgrade source is.

Any less than perfect means of distributing files,
rely on certificates and signing and digital signature
and checksums, for verification. Every step is traceable
back to Microsoft.

The only thing they cannot do, is use MD5 for implementation,
as that check is cracked. Microsoft will use stronger means
to verify downloads (even downloads coming straight from
a Microsoft CDN) are correct.

This is also why they don't mind their downloader being
interrupted by a power failure or otherwise. It always
manages to pick up where it left off. Implying a protocol
is in place for restartable transfer (via BITS).

Paul