Food poisoning

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:21:49 -0700, T wrote:

I would say this, if the judgement call is to
go see them, tell the assholes to wash their
freakin' hands.

I go to the dentist when I need to. The last time was about a year ago
because of a gum infection.

My GP phones me if I need advice. He asks me a few questions to
establish my state of health and if I need a visit. My health care has
a lot better since I stopped using a private service and went back on
the NHS.

Steve

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On 9/20/19 6:04 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:21:49 -0700, T wrote:

I would say this, if the judgement call is to
go see them, tell the assholes to wash their
freakin' hands.

I go to the dentist when I need to. The last time was about a year ago
because of a gum infection.

My GP phones me if I need advice. He asks me a few questions to
establish my state of health and if I need a visit. My health care has
a lot better since I stopped using a private service and went back on
the NHS.

Steve


I adore my dentist. I just don't like being sick for a week
after visiting him. I have no sick leave.

I like the phone call thing: you don't catch a bunch
of viruses. I have a nurse hot line I can call on my
insurance plan, but I am really suspicious of their
motives and competence. The local hospital has
a nurse hot line too. Standard answer: come in and
see us and bring an armored car with you to pay for it.

Usually the NHS is worse (socialized medicine is
cheap but sucks). If you found a good port in that
storm, it is a lot cheaper.

I like to listen to Classic FM, so I hear your news
from over there. Haven't heard a NHS scandal of the
week story in several months now. Mainly it is the
standard hourly update on what President Trump is
up to.

In article , wrote:

I adore my dentist. I just don't like being sick for a week
after visiting him. I have no sick leave.

if dental work is causing sickness for a week, or even just discomfort,
then he's doing something *very* wrong.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:56:42 -0700, T wrote:

Usually the NHS is worse (socialized medicine is
cheap but sucks). If you found a good port in that
storm, it is a lot cheaper.


My experience is based on the fact that I had private medicine until I
retired. The doctors I saw were the same ones as I saw on the NHS.
Many NHS doctors do some private work. A thing I didn't like about a
private hospital was that I found it very boring in a room by myself.

I like to listen to Classic FM, so I hear your news
from over there. Haven't heard a NHS scandal of the
week story in several months now. Mainly it is the
standard hourly update on what President Trump is
up to.

I don't know anything about a NHS scandal or President Trump as I
don't read the Daily Mail

Steve

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On 16/09/2019 17.08, Paul wrote:
Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
Mr ChrisV replied ( to me ):
Salt has been unjustly villainized.
Wild animals love salt licks.
Yeah, and I love doughnuts.Â* That doesn't make them healthy.

The context is a person who has lost fluids, thanks to diarrhea.
Eating salt makes you drink water.

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biome.../1743-7075-6-9


Â* "Drinks designed for use in both ORS (oral rehydration solutions)
Â*Â* and sports nutrition contain a mixture of carbohydrate and electrolytes,
Â*Â* with the main electrolyte being sodium."

Â* "More recent research has suggested that sodium content
Â*Â* may not be as important a factor as carbohydrate"

Â* "The absorption of glucose by SGLT1 in the small intestine is
Â*Â* directly coupled with the absorption of 2 sodium molecules
Â*Â* and approximately 300 water molecules"

So while rehydration may involve packets of glucose and salt,
it looks like I was "staring at the wrong one". The glucose
does most of the work.

It is both, but not sodium chloride "only"; it is a mixture of salts
when drinking it. That the IV uses "salt" is very different, there is an
osmosis barrier.

If one could drink salty water, then shipwrecked people could drink sea
water, and every sailor knows that's a quick way to death: the water
flows in the intestines "out", not into the body. Again, there is an
osmosis barrier to take into account.

Be very careful with health advice found on internet forums like this.

Rusell is not back...

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Cheers, Carlos.

T wrote:
On 9/20/19 6:04 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:21:49 -0700, T wrote:

I would say this, if the judgement call is to
go see them, tell the assholes to wash their
freakin' hands.

I go to the dentist when I need to. The last time was about a year ago
because of a gum infection.

My GP phones me if I need advice. He asks me a few questions to
establish my state of health and if I need a visit. My health care has
a lot better since I stopped using a private service and went back on
the NHS.

Steve


I adore my dentist. I just don't like being sick for a week
after visiting him. I have no sick leave.

I like the phone call thing: you don't catch a bunch
of viruses. I have a nurse hot line I can call on my
insurance plan, but I am really suspicious of their
motives and competence. The local hospital has
a nurse hot line too. Standard answer: come in and
see us and bring an armored car with you to pay for it.

Usually the NHS is worse (socialized medicine is
cheap but sucks).

Private is expensive and doesn't provide universal healthcare. Hence why
the US life expectancy is low and infant morality is high.

If you found a good port in that
storm, it is a lot cheaper.

I like to listen to Classic FM, so I hear your news
from over there. Haven't heard a NHS scandal of the
week story in several months now.

The only scandal with the NHS is that it's being sold off!

On 2019-09-21 11:03 a.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
We have plenty of access to clean, fresh water;
so drinking ordinary seawater is harmless.
You won't be tempted to drink too much.

In fact, plenty of people buy sea salt,
which is just dehydrated seawater.

If you've lost liquids to sweat or diarrhea, try eating some sea salt;
after that, you'll feel the desire to drink plenty of fresh water.

Most people here, including Paul and Carlos, promote very expensive,
very mysterious, re-hydration methods. You guys keep spending
thousands and thousands of dollars to sate your wild imaginations.

No need to try what I suggest;
we all know that your ideas are better because they cost more,
and because... magic. TOO LITTLE SALT IS BAD.

have you tried rubbing salt in your ass

On 2019-09-21 5:02 a.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 16/09/2019 17.08, Paul wrote:
Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
Mr ChrisV replied ( to me ):
Salt has been unjustly villainized.
Wild animals love salt licks.
Yeah, and I love doughnuts.Â* That doesn't make them healthy.

The context is a person who has lost fluids, thanks to diarrhea.
Eating salt makes you drink water.

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biome.../1743-7075-6-9


Â* "Drinks designed for use in both ORS (oral rehydration solutions)
Â*Â* and sports nutrition contain a mixture of carbohydrate and electrolytes,
Â*Â* with the main electrolyte being sodium."

Â* "More recent research has suggested that sodium content
Â*Â* may not be as important a factor as carbohydrate"

Â* "The absorption of glucose by SGLT1 in the small intestine is
Â*Â* directly coupled with the absorption of 2 sodium molecules
Â*Â* and approximately 300 water molecules"

So while rehydration may involve packets of glucose and salt,
it looks like I was "staring at the wrong one". The glucose
does most of the work.

It is both, but not sodium chloride "only"; it is a mixture of salts
when drinking it. That the IV uses "salt" is very different, there is an
osmosis barrier.

If one could drink salty water, then shipwrecked people could drink sea
water, and every sailor knows that's a quick way to death: the water
flows in the intestines "out", not into the body. Again, there is an
osmosis barrier to take into account.

Be very careful with health advice found on internet forums like this.

Rusell is not back...


My Dr has recommend "Gastrolyte" for this condition.

Rene

On 2019-09-21, Jeff-Relf.Me @. Jeff-Relf.Me@ wrote:
We have plenty of access to clean, fresh water;
so drinking ordinary seawater is harmless.
You won't be tempted to drink too much.

Said the guy who lives in Seattle... on the east coast, you might finish
the job before the 'temptation' subsides

On 9/21/19 10:18 AM, Chris wrote:
sually the NHS is worse (socialized medicine is
cheap but sucks).
Private is expensive and doesn't provide universal healthcare. Hence why
the US life expectancy is low and infant morality is high.

You'd better check that.

US medical care its the best in the world. Its major
draw back is it is very, very expensive. And everyone
gets treated when you show up at the emergency room.
You just get a YUGE bill afterwards.


If you found a good port in that
storm, it is a lot cheaper.

I like to listen to Classic FM, so I hear your news
from over there. Haven't heard a NHS scandal of the
week story in several months now.

The only scandal with the NHS is that it's being sold off!

Lets see, some of the scandals you missed: there is the
endless scandal over the horrid treatment of your
elderly in long term care (those that can pay back the
system get better treatment). And then there is the
ambulance thing. And on top of that, doctors are
being rewarded for their patient's serum controller
numbers (there is no correlation between blood serum
cholesterol and arteriosclerosis in autopsy studies,
making the practice out and out medical fraud).
Oh and don't forget the 24 hour wait in the emergency
room.

A year and a half ago, my wife had appendicitis. She
is chemically sensitive. When we told them that, it was
"okay". Two hours later she was in recovery and I
got back a woman I was rather fond of, although she was
a bit indignant over the process. Had I been in the NHS,
the 24 wait would have caused her appendix to have burst
and the chemicals used to treat that would have killed her faster than
the burst appendix. The only draw back was
all the bills I got in the mail, even with private insurance.
I'd rather have a live wife and debt than a dead wife and cheap.

On 9/21/19 1:47 AM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
My experience is based on the fact that I had private medicine until I
retired. The doctors I saw were the same ones as I saw on the NHS.
Many NHS doctors do some private work. A thing I didn't like about a
private hospital was that I found it very boring in a room by myself.

Fascinating. Most just watch TV over here.

When my wife had her appendicitis, she recovered in a
private room. I stayed with her the entire time.
The free cable TV sucked. And the hospital had the
gall to bill 30,000.00 U$D for a one night stay in
their fancy hotel room. The insurance cut the down
to 7,000 U$D. This is what happens to cost when
someone else is paying the bills. (Based on non
insurance covered medical expenses, insurance
covered expenses are four times higher.)

And the service was absolutely wonderful. It
is just extremely expensive. We (the US) already
have the best medical care int he world. We even
have folks coming from all over the world for our
heart care. Now we need to get the cost back
down to market rates. And how we do that is
beyond me other than outlawing insurance and that
would just be plain mean to a lot of people.

On 9/21/19 1:51 PM, T wrote:
LetsÂ*see,Â*someÂ*ofÂ*theÂ*scandalsÂ*youÂ*missed:

Oh don't forget the one where the US offend FOR FREE
to take care of a sick child your death panels decided
had to die because he was too expensive to treat
and the probably of a good outcome were too small
and the NHS REFUSED. The child died. Probably
would have in our care too, but at least he would
have had a chance. And it wold not have cost the
NHS one damned penny.

So don't cross some in-human's ego if you want to live.
And make sure you can pay the system back. Good lord
the stories about your elderly care!

I listen to your news. Not that I want to. I just
like the music.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:


My Dr has recommend "Gastrolyte" for this condition.

Rene


https://chealth.canoe.com/drug/getdrug/gastrolyte

Each sachet contains

3.56 g of dextrose monohydrate,
0.53 g of disodium citrate,
0.47 g of sodium chloride,
0.30 g of potassium chloride.

A litre of solution made with 5 sachets contains

60 mmol of sodium
20 mmol of potassium
60 mmol of chloride
10 mmol of bicarbonate
90 mmol of dextrose (anhydrous)

Nonmedicinal ingredients:

aspartame (as sweetening agent),
grapefruit flavour,
pineapple flavour,
silicon dioxide.

Delicious.

Like fruit punch.

Do you sip it, or chug it ?

Paul

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:05:38 -0700, T wrote:

I listen to your news.

That's the problem. The news media (papers and TV) only report the bad
news.

Steve

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http://www.npsnn.com

On 21/09/2019 23.25, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:


My Dr has recommend "Gastrolyte" for this condition.

Rene


https://chealth.canoe.com/drug/getdrug/gastrolyte

Â*Â* Each sachet contains

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 3.56 g of dextrose monohydrate,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 0.53 g of disodium citrate,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 0.47 g of sodium chloride,
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 0.30 g of potassium chloride.

Â*Â* A litre of solution made with 5 sachets contains

Â*Â*Â*Â* 60 mmol of sodium
Â*Â*Â*Â* 20 mmol of potassium
Â*Â*Â*Â* 60 mmol of chloride
Â*Â*Â*Â* 10 mmol of bicarbonate
Â*Â*Â*Â* 90 mmol of dextrose (anhydrous)

Â*Â* Nonmedicinal ingredients:

Â*Â*Â*Â* aspartame (as sweetening agent),
Â*Â*Â*Â* grapefruit flavour,
Â*Â*Â*Â* pineapple flavour,
Â*Â*Â*Â* silicon dioxide.

Delicious.

Like fruit punch.

Do you sip it, or chug it ?

Â*Â* Paul

Sip.

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Cheers, Carlos.