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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In article , Wolf K
wrote: as i said then, anyone making such a statement should*not* be writing software for macs in any form, and i'll extend that now to any software on any platform. Another example of context shifting. nope. Who the hell said anything about writing software for the Mac? Nobody. Until now, when you throw it up (pun intended), just to salve your ego. Look at the Subject, and reread the original post. *you* provided a link from acronis, a company that is well known for windows software and now has dabbled with mac software. that link, which you provided, had some errors, one of which was *so* major that it indicates that they are completely clueless. clueless people should not be writing software. |
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 18:53:20 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Wolf K wrote: as i said then, anyone making such a statement should*not* be writing software for macs in any form, and i'll extend that now to any software on any platform. Another example of context shifting. nope. nonsense. -- Char Jackson |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In message nospam wrote:
the newton was *way* ahead of its time. In some ways, it is *still* ahead of its time, 20 years later. -- I WILL NOT YELL "FIRE" IN A CROWDED CLASSROOM Bart chalkboard Ep. 7G01 |
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nospam wrote:
the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In message Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. -- Han Solo: Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that. Ben: Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him? |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 20:36:15 -0500, Wolf K
wrote: On 2017-12-26 19:40, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 18:53:20 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , Wolf K wrote: as i said then, anyone making such a statement should*not* be writing software for macs in any form, and i'll extend that now to any software on any platform. Another example of context shifting. nope. nonsense. I've had enough of nospam, who has undoubted expertise, but hasn't a clue on how to converse, still less on how to teach. For reasons I hesitate to speculate about, he wants to assert that he is superior to anyone who dares to make a comment of any kind. Besides, it's too easy to poke that anthill, and I'm finding myself deliberately provoking the poor sod. I don't like myself when I do that. So goodbye, nospam. I won't see you again unless I see one of your posts quoted by someone else. Thank you. I wish everyone else would also killfile him and all the other trolls. |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
Lewis wrote:
In message Peter Köhlmann wrote: nospam wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In article , Peter Khlmann
wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around in other words, 'no'. there wasn't a 'much later' after the 2100 and notebooks are not the same category. |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
nospam wrote:
In article , Peter Köhlmann wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around in other words, 'no'. there wasn't a 'much later' after the 2100 and notebooks are not the same category. In short: You have not tried the Newton when it came out. It was disgusting. Until Newton OS 2 it was a better doorstop And yes, Notebooks are another category. They are not useless |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In article , Peter Khlmann
wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around in other words, 'no'. there wasn't a 'much later' after the 2100 and notebooks are not the same category. In short: You have not tried the Newton when it came out. It was disgusting. wrong. Until Newton OS 2 it was a better doorstop also wrong And yes, Notebooks are another category. They are not useless irrelevant. |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In message Peter Köhlmann wrote:
Lewis wrote: In message Peter Köhlmann wrote: nospam wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. Then you never used a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1 This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around There was no "much later" for the Newton, it was only around for a few years. -- “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.” ― Don Marquis |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
In message Peter Köhlmann wrote:
nospam wrote: In article , Peter Köhlmann wrote: the newton was *way* ahead of its time. Translation: It was nearly unuseable. Too far ahead for its limited capabilities I take it you never used one? Especially not a 2100 with Newton OS 2.1. I tried one for about one day. And was disgusted. Slow as frozen molasses, and the much tounted "feature" handwriting recognition was completely useless. This got better much later, but at that time better notebooks were around in other words, 'no'. there wasn't a 'much later' after the 2100 and notebooks are not the same category. In short: You have not tried the Newton when it came out. Did, in fact. It was disgusting. It was slow and buggy, and it was still amazing and useful. I coveted one a great deal. And yes, Notebooks are another category. They are not useless Many people found the Newton very useful. -- It is one thing to be mistaken; it is quite another to be willfully ignorant ~Cecil Adams |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
On 2017-12-28, Lewis wrote:
In message Peter Köhlmann wrote: In short: You have not tried the Newton when it came out. Did, in fact. It was disgusting. It was slow and buggy, and it was still amazing and useful. I coveted one a great deal. And yes, Notebooks are another category. They are not useless Many people found the Newton very useful. Yup, and still do: http://newton.splorp.com:8080 -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
Lewis
Wed, 13 Dec 2017 02:01:32 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: In message J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Tim Streater writes: In article , nospam wrote: In article , Jolly Roger wrote: On 2017-12-12, Arthur Wood wrote: guy named Fudman who is very knowledgeable in bimmer engines so for him to complain means that it's not obvious to all Macintosh users - but when I Being knowledgeable about car engines doesn't magically make him representative of all Macintosh users. I'm willing to bet most Mac users know how to rename a file. Anyone who uses all of the above platforms on a regular basis knows renaming files on macOS is just as simple as it is on Linux or Windows. Click the file's name and you are in filename editing mode - simple. the problem is that he changed the file's extension and hide extensions is normally on. the same problem exists on windows but he's too stupid to realize what the actual problem is and would rather just troll under yet another nym. This whole issue is just another bit of fallout from the Windows nonsense of *requiring* a file extension. What nonsense might that be? Windows (and DOS) don't require an extension; OK, they normally _use_ one (and I definitely agree with all who think hiding them's a bad idea and certainly shouldn't be the _default_), but there's no _requirement_. Of course it is a requirement. Quick, go change a .exe to have no extension and see what happens when you try to run it, Or change any file with an extension and then try to use it as intended. Heh. That depends on how you try to 'run' it. If you're trying to do it via a shell/explorer, etc, you might run into a problem. If you call it from another program and/or API though, it's going to run, regardless of the 'extension' you assigned it. As in, you could rename notepad.exe to just****.1 and execute it from another program via an api/interrupt (yes, you can) call to just****.1. It will execute as it should. The OS itself doesn't care about the name of the file, it's interested in the file's actual contents. Does it have an MZ header? Does it also have a PE header? If the PE header is found, it's ignoring the MZ header and marching on. If it can't locate a PE header for some reason, it'll fallback to executing the program based on what the MZ header says. 64bit only Windows versions won't do MZ anymore, but the older stuff still does. The most obvious example being, I think, the hosts file. The only example. Or it not only, the one in a million example. See above. -- Please visit our moderators personal page: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php Now for a cheeky message from our sponsors: The day after tomorrow is the third day of the rest of your life. |
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Can a Macintosh person tell us how to change the name of a file?
Lewis
Fri, 15 Dec 2017 08:47:47 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: In message Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:24:34 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote: In message Paul wrote: Wolf K wrote: On 2017-12-14 00:24, Your Name wrote: On 2017-12-14 03:16:11 +0000, Wolf K said: On 2017-12-13 19:37, Your Name wrote: [...] ... you can't rely on the OS to do that since a JPEG image file can actually be opened in a text editor as the file's data, even if it's rarely useful to do so. That's what Open With is for. Open With is near useless if you don't know what the file actually is. You'd have to Open With with every app you have until you found one that could open it properly. If we're talking about user convenience, I agree, showing a file's type as part of the filename is very useful. (But IMO a three-letter extension is too limited). There are many other useful conventions, eg, in icon design. These are converging on a common standard. If we're talking about choosing a program to open a file, extenions aren't needed. It would be easy to ensure that Open With offers only programs that can open a given file without reference to an extension. Just standardise metadata (eg, as a series of slots, some which must be filled, others for dev or user options). Easy peasy. Have a good day, Windows is not limited to 8.3. Might not be in Windows 10 (though I think it is) Nope. I can't remember what happened before XP, but at least with XP through 10 you can create a filename with 200+ characters in the extension, as long as you don't exceed the total number of characters allowed. Please reread what I said, that file will have an 8.3 representation in the filesystem. This was true in XP and in Windows 7 and in Windows 8 (Hmm. now I'm not positive about Windows 8). Not necessarily. That's provided for backwards compatability and you can actually turn it off. I'm not confusing them at all, I am pointing out taht both still exist, and that the 8.3 name is required. No, it isn't. It's for backwards compatability with older stuff. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/121007 If you aren't using any programs that depend on the old 8.3 filename conventions, you don't *really need it* There's a little more to it than that, but not much. For us humans, it's been a very long time since we were limited to 8.3 filenames. Again, reading for comprehension is your friend. "every file had to conform to 8.3 *AT SOME LEVEL*" No, actually, they don't. Enjoy the educational (for you) article. And leave the comprehension wiseass remarks for someone else. You haven't demonstrated a well rounded understanding of the concept here, yourself. -- Please visit our moderators personal page: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php Now for a cheeky message from our sponsors: He's dead, Jim. Spock took his tricorder, I got his wallet. |
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