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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:00:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:16:12 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:12:53 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:28:20 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:46:10 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:52:01 -0400, wrote: [] On 15/08/2018 22:41, wrote: [] This emachine T3104 ran fine then - had both internet and audio once I installed the drivers, However it was horrendously slow, so I decided to try XP on it. Now I have reached the point where I can't connect to the web. All else seems fine. I have tried and tried to install/reinstall the connection, but I can't find the place [] I pinged the above 192.168.1.200 from my W10 PC and it found it. I pinged this W10PC IPV4 Address 192.168.1.155 (taken from ping on that machine) from the emachine WXP and it did not. Mean anything? Could just be that ICMP is disabled on the W10 firewall. 192.168.1.1 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 8.8.8.8 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 216.58.203.133 (gmail.com) - worked - 4 packets sent and received. both machines. One is WXP, one is W10. Now what? Thanks J That's weird! Sounds like you have a connection. (Did you ping gmail.com using its name, or did you specify its numerical IP address?) numerical J Be sure to check that your DNS is working properly by pinging a site by its name rather than its IP address. Sorry I have not replied. Had to take wifey to doc. on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! -- Char Jackson |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
In message , Char Jackson
writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Intelligence isn't complete without the full picture and the full picture is all about doubt. Otherwise, you go the way of George Bush. - baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller (former head of MI5), Radio Times 3-9 September 2011. |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Google has multiple IP addresses. And a person in North America gets a different set than you'd get in the UK. ******* Over the years, I've used "www.sun.com" for this test case, because it uses one IP address and as far as I know, the same value world-wide. And I think you can still ping it, amongst other things. It's not a "pretty" web site, but from a test perspective, it's been consistent. nslookup www.sun.com 156.151.59.35 Paul |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:00:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:16:12 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:12:53 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:28:20 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:46:10 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:52:01 -0400, wrote: [] On 15/08/2018 22:41, wrote: [] This emachine T3104 ran fine then - had both internet and audio once I installed the drivers, However it was horrendously slow, so I decided to try XP on it. Now I have reached the point where I can't connect to the web. All else seems fine. I have tried and tried to install/reinstall the connection, but I can't find the place [] I pinged the above 192.168.1.200 from my W10 PC and it found it. I pinged this W10PC IPV4 Address 192.168.1.155 (taken from ping on that machine) from the emachine WXP and it did not. Mean anything? Could just be that ICMP is disabled on the W10 firewall. 192.168.1.1 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 8.8.8.8 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 216.58.203.133 (gmail.com) - worked - 4 packets sent and received. both machines. One is WXP, one is W10. Now what? Thanks J That's weird! Sounds like you have a connection. (Did you ping gmail.com using its name, or did you specify its numerical IP address?) numerical J Be sure to check that your DNS is working properly by pinging a site by its name rather than its IP address. Sorry I have not replied. Had to take wifey to doc. on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Thanks J Hey, try this link on your XP box. It's about the only site I can think of that's http rather than https, so I'm guessing it'll work. http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html It's a site developed and maintained by Mark Lloyd, one of the folks active here in these newsgroups. It should give you a large-font digital clock that runs and shows the current time. Well, nearly current. It seems to be about 10 minutes slow, but it's still a good test for a browser that seems to have trouble with current https sites. -- Char Jackson |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:01:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Like Paul said, Google uses a bunch of IP addresses for each of their services. When I run a continuous DNS lookup of gmail.com, I get multiple addresses, mostly neither of the two listed above. If you have access to a Linux box, this command "watch -d dig gmail.com" will resolve gmail.com to one or more IP addresses every 2 seconds and will highlight the differences between one iteration and the one before it. Let it run for awhile and you're likely to see a good handful of different IP addresses. -- Char Jackson |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:10:56 -0400, Paul wrote:
Over the years, I've used "www.sun.com" for this test case, I tend to use 3-letter domains, as well, because they're easy to type, but I usually use dull stuff like cnn, msn, aol, abc, etc. because it uses one IP address and as far as I know, the same value world-wide. And I think you can still ping it, amongst other things. It's not a "pretty" web site, but from a test perspective, it's been consistent. nslookup www.sun.com 156.151.59.35 Interestingly, or perhaps not, www.sun.com is a CNAME pointing to legacy-sun.oraclegha.com, and that domain then points to 156.151.59.35. I let it run for a while and never saw anything else. -- Char Jackson |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:27:16 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:00:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:16:12 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:12:53 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:28:20 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:46:10 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:52:01 -0400, wrote: [] On 15/08/2018 22:41, wrote: [] This emachine T3104 ran fine then - had both internet and audio once I installed the drivers, However it was horrendously slow, so I decided to try XP on it. Now I have reached the point where I can't connect to the web. All else seems fine. I have tried and tried to install/reinstall the connection, but I can't find the place [] I pinged the above 192.168.1.200 from my W10 PC and it found it. I pinged this W10PC IPV4 Address 192.168.1.155 (taken from ping on that machine) from the emachine WXP and it did not. Mean anything? Could just be that ICMP is disabled on the W10 firewall. 192.168.1.1 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 8.8.8.8 worked - 4 packets sent and received. 216.58.203.133 (gmail.com) - worked - 4 packets sent and received. both machines. One is WXP, one is W10. Now what? Thanks J That's weird! Sounds like you have a connection. (Did you ping gmail.com using its name, or did you specify its numerical IP address?) numerical J Be sure to check that your DNS is working properly by pinging a site by its name rather than its IP address. Sorry I have not replied. Had to take wifey to doc. on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! New day, new try. I turned evrything off lst nite. Restarted both machines. Command window was gone of course. Re-tried ping to gmain.com on XP machine - still works fine. Now get 216.58.218.229. I think I told you last night that I tried this on the XP machine with the co-connected W7 machine off - still worked. Now I'll look at your subsequent posts to see what to try next. Thanks J |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:01:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Same Q J |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:10:56 -0400, Paul
wrote: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Google has multiple IP addresses. And a person in North America gets a different set than you'd get in the UK. ******* But I was in same place. J Over the years, I've used "www.sun.com" for this test case, because it uses one IP address and as far as I know, the same value world-wide. And I think you can still ping it, amongst other things. It's not a "pretty" web site, but from a test perspective, it's been consistent. nslookup www.sun.com 156.151.59.35 I tried this, and ur right. Got same IP address on both machines. J |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 00:32:09 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:01:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Like Paul said, Google uses a bunch of IP addresses for each of their services. When I run a continuous DNS lookup of gmail.com, I get multiple addresses, mostly neither of the two listed above. If you have access to a Linux box, this command "watch -d dig gmail.com" will resolve gmail.com to one or more IP addresses every 2 seconds and will highlight the differences between one iteration and the one before it. Let it run for awhile and you're likely to see a good handful of different IP addresses. I did have a 'Linux box', but do not right now. J |
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Need Multimedia Audio Controller for W7 installation
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 05:03:19 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:10:56 -0400, Paul wrote: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Char Jackson writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:14:53 -0400, wrote: [] on w10 PC: ping gmail.com worked fine (got IP add for gmail,com = 74.208.232.28) on XP PC: ping gmail.com worked too (got IP add for gmail,com = 172.217.15.69)) Cool, DNS works. From a networking perspective, you're golden! But why did he get different IP addresses? Google has multiple IP addresses. And a person in North America gets a different set than you'd get in the UK. ******* But I was in same place. It doesn't matter. Every organization gets to set the rules for how their domains will resolve. In the simplest case, a request to resolve www.mydomain.com will always return the same IP because the authoritative DNS system only contains a single A record for that domain. But things can quickly become more complicated after that. You can trust Google not to use the simplest DNS configuration so it shouldn't be surprising that requests for any of their domains will return a range of results. That doesn't indicate an error of any kind, it's just how they have their DNS configured. The important part is that your request was resolved. -- Char Jackson |
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