WinXP SP2 Beta Version 2055

Hi, No one is going to be help to you here. We keep trying to explain to
you that the software is in beta. There will be problems and the beta
testers for the product will submit them. We have both explained this too
you many times. Please read the Rules of Conduct for Microsoft Newsgroups.
The two topics you might want to read very good are as follows below. There
is nothing wrong with anyone saying that you are posting in the wrong place,
and that you should not be running the software in the first place. Also is
*not* a forum, it's a newsgroup! It is also suggested that you take a
look at a few sites that offer tips of "Netiquette" You could use some
improvement in the field. Despite the fact that you "run your own forum"
(btw, that doesn't make you "cool" or anything. it just makes you sound
stupid) this is not your forum, nor is it a forum at all. Since you "found
your answer" you may now leave without replaying to this message. Your kind
are not welcome here.

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FYI, I love replying to these. It's so funny to see all the n00b's try and
get answers for betas they are not part of!

Have a nice day!
Chris Lanier

"cowboy" wrote in message
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Chris and Carey, you two must be an Item, ya both have the same answer for
everything. Although your answer are pretty lame and stupid. YES I KNOW it
is a Beta release and there are going to be BUGS, and yes those bugs will be
Ironed out, and NO I am not an official Beta Tester. But I was hoping that I
would run into some guys that also have it loaded and might have an answer,
THAT IS WHAT A FORUM IS FOR, but I made a mistake and ran into you two
Morons who like to play Moderators on an open forum. The problem is you are
of no help to anyone, not even yourself because you can't step out of your
little play ground long enough to learn anything.
With that said, I found some answers to my problem on another forum that
is not WinXP Beta Related, isn't that amazing. I actually found some people
that knew what a forum was for.
Why don't you two little pansies get married and go to work for Microsoft
and get it over with.

Yeah your right, my kind are not wanted here. Judging from some of the others who posted, I would say you guys are not to well liked. Go figure.
The difference between a Forum and a Newsgroup, now thats a real stretch. Of course the difference would be the Spelling. But then, who can argue with you two geniuses.

{So if you found a resolution to your issues, why don't you
inform us of the actual resolution instead of criticizing?} Why would I want to give you anything, but what you have given me.

{ It is also suggested that you take a
look at a few sites that offer tips of "Netiquette" You could use some
improvement in the field.} Now look who's calling the kettle black, now thats real funny coming from you.

{Despite the fact that you "run your own forum"
(btw, that doesn't make you "cool" or anything. it just makes you sound
stupid) That the best you can do.

{Since you "found
your answer" you may now leave without replaying to this message. Your kind
are not welcome here.} You really are funny Chris.

Hi, Beta software is not meant to be in the hands of others besides MSDN
subscribers and official beta testers. There has been nothing wrong with
me, Carey, or anyone else saying that you can't/will not get help here.
Cowboy just decided to carry it on and on. And now, it got he he/she is
flaming others for basically putting it nicely first (which we did, please
post in the correct beta/MSDN group). You want to flame and I will flame
back.

Of course there are issue with XP SP2. There should be. And since the NDA
was never lifted from beta testers none of them should be talking about it.

You may feel free to look other place for help, but here, no. I'm sure no
one at Microsoft will have any problem with the way me and Carey have been
putting it.

"Windows customer" wrote in message
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I read the tread and I'm shocked to hear that Microsoft would allow this
kind of treatment towards their customers. I would suggest instead of
trying to argue with 'Cowboy', you would simply advise his that there is no
support available for the Beta rls of sp2 (2055). I'm sure he would
understand that if you informed him in a polite and professional manner.

Cowboy, I would suggest that you seek help outside of Microsoft's
list-serv. I've found that Google has more information available for
Microsoft problems than what you can find in this list-serv. In fact there
are a few beta sp2 issues already out there.

Good luck in your search for a solution.
A Fellow Windows User

Tom Porterfield wrote:
cowboy wrote:

I understand that it didn't come with support. What I figured is that
I might just run into someone that has already dealt with the problem
and might have a solution. That is what the Beta Versions is all
about.


Cowboy, my apologies for the ridiculousness of this thread. You deserve
to be treated better than this, as anyone does. There is no reason not to
expect that someone who could answer your question would. ...........
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Good luck.

Tom, Many thanks for your help before about my scripting problem - and
for your common sense.

Is SP2 a wortwhile upgrade for most people?

Once again - Thanks
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Luke

"shojo kid" wrote in message
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Tom Porterfield wrote:
cowboy wrote:

I understand that it didn't come with support. What I figured is that
I might just run into someone that has already dealt with the problem
and might have a solution. That is what the Beta Versions is all
about.


Cowboy, my apologies for the ridiculousness of this thread. You deserve
to be treated better than this, as anyone does. There is no reason not
to
expect that someone who could answer your question would. ...........
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Good luck.

Tom, Many thanks for your help before about my scripting problem - and for
your common sense.



Is SP2 a wortwhile upgrade for most people?

Not before testing is complete :-)



Once again - Thanks
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Luke

John E. Carty wrote:

"shojo kid" wrote in message
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Is SP2 a wortwhile upgrade for most people?


Not before testing is complete :-)

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Hi John,
What improvements are being tested, and when will testing be complete?
What percentage of testers have had annoying problems
Thanks for your help
--
Luke

shojo kid wrote:
Hi John,
What improvements are being tested, and when will testing be complete?
What percentage of testers have had annoying problems
Thanks for your help

Probably not questions that can be answered. After all, all private beta
testers are under strict NDA. MS has released some information that can
be found at the following links:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...ityinxpsp2.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...n/winxpsp2.asp

SP2 is currently in early beta, so things are still subject to change as
the beta progresses.
--
Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP Smart Display
http://support.telop.org

Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.

"shojo kid" wrote in message
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John E. Carty wrote:

"shojo kid" wrote in message
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Is SP2 a wortwhile upgrade for most people?


Not before testing is complete :-)

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Hi John,
What improvements are being tested, and when will testing be complete?
What percentage of testers have had annoying problems
Thanks for your help
--
Luke


BETA testing of XPSP2 has just begun. Here is the public information which
is available:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ityinxpsp2.asp

Cowboy, If your still reading this after the crappy way you've been treated....... I'm an unoffical tester too, and I solved the same problem you're having. Go to Network Connections and install the Client for Microsoft Networks. Then go to services and st
art Workstation, Background Intelligent Transfer, and Automatic Updates. The updates should then install.

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Cowboy, If your still reading this after the crappy way you've been treated....... I'm an unoffical tester too, and I solved the same problem you're having. Go to Network Connections and install the Client for Microsoft Networks. Then go to services a
nd start Workstation, Background Intelligent Transfer, and Automatic Updates. The updates should then install.

For some reason my last couple post didn't seem to make it. So agaim I will say Thank You SOMEBODY, THe Background Intelegence Transfer Service was the last piece of the puzzle I needed. Now the updates download with no problems. Now ya see Carey and Chris
you were wrong, I did find the answer to my problem right here in this Newsgroup,,,,Of course that was with no help from you two. You two were to busy hoping Daddy Bill Gates would send you a present or something for being such ^&^%$&^^%$, you know what I
mean don't ya? By the way Carey and Chris, ole Cowboys gonna stick around for awhile to help some of these people.
For the rest of the posters thank you for your support and helping me keep the faith it support groups.

Chris Lanier wrote:
Since you
"found your answer" you may now leave without replaying to this
message. Your kind are not welcome here.

What "kind" were you thinking of as being unwelcome?
Microsoft customers?
Windows users?
MSDN subscribers?
People who occasionally ask a question in one forum or newsgroup when
another might be better?
People who get annoyed at being treated in a shabby manner for no good
reason that I can see.

I guess I had better unsubscribe then. I've done/been all the above.

Chris, with respect, I don't think its your place to tell people whether or
not they are welcome in a public newsgroup that isn't moderated at all, let
alone by you.

Cowboy, if you read this, I don't know what "your kind" is exactly as
described in the post I'm replying to, but as far as I'm concerned you are
welcome here.

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Rob Moir
Microsoft MVP for servers & security
Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html

John E. Carty wrote:
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BETA testing of XPSP2 has just begun. Here is the public information which
is available:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ityinxpsp2.asp




Hi John, Many thanks for that info, and for the link to the doc 'Changes
to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2' which is a bit
technical, but seems to give the picture. I have seen reference to
version 1a elsewhere, and wondered Is this a worthwhile download at all

Best
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Luke

shojo kid wrote:
Hi John, Many thanks for that info, and for the link to the doc
'Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2'
which is a bit technical, but seems to give the picture. I have seen
reference to version 1a elsewhere, and wondered Is this a worthwhile
download at all

SP1a is exactly the same as SP1 but with the MS Java Virtual Machine
removed. So if you already have SP1 installed there is no reason to
download/install SP1a. See this link for info on why Microsoft is
removing the JVM from their products -
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/.
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Tom Porterfield
MS-MVP Smart Display
http://support.telop.org

Please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup only.

Hi Robert,,,,your guess is as good as mine on what kind I am. I guess I am the kind that uses Miccrosoft Products, but won't take any crap from Morons. Thanks for your KIND words.

Hey ****wit's wake up! You are stealing software. It
does not matter about your "no strings attached"
download. It's not YOURS.

There has been NOTHING WRONG with what anyone has said to
you. A ****wit as atupid as you asking for help with a
beta you SHOULD NOT HAVE.

What kind of dumbass are you? Why dont you leave and go
be a good "unoffical tester" (if there is such as thing)

These ****wit's get stupider with every beta M$ puts out.

-----Original Message-----
Chris Lanier wrote:
Since you
"found your answer" you may now leave without replaying
to this
message. Your kind are not welcome here.

What "kind" were you thinking of as being unwelcome?
Microsoft customers?
Windows users?
MSDN subscribers?
People who occasionally ask a question in one forum or
newsgroup when
another might be better?
People who get annoyed at being treated in a shabby
manner for no good
reason that I can see.

I guess I had better unsubscribe then. I've done/been all
the above.

Chris, with respect, I don't think its your place to tell
people whether or
not they are welcome in a public newsgroup that isn't
moderated at all, let
alone by you.

Cowboy, if you read this, I don't know what "your kind"
is exactly as
described in the post I'm replying to, but as far as I'm
concerned you are
welcome here.

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Rob Moir
Microsoft MVP for servers & security
Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html


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