Corporate XP and SP2

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a
copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key.
And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of
XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might
get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Lindsay" wrote in message
...
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with
the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a
copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product
Key.
And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked
copy of
XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead.
You might
get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

Ok, the correct name is "volume license" not "corporate", but you know
what he's talking about, and so does everyone else -- the version of XP
licensed to large corporate customers that doesn't do product activation.

Last I heard from MS was that SP2 or Windows Update (it wasn't clear
which) had a list of known "leaked" keys for that edition and would not
install (and might freeze the system against any future Windows
updates) if any of those keys was used, but would work if the key wasn't
on the "blacklist".



Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

Do your searches for Volume License Product Keys SP2.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Lindsay" wrote in message
...
The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will
deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

Without regard to the specific question asked, there most definitely is
such an animal. The correct name is "volume license", not "corporate".


Plato wrote:

Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a


No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:


"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.

Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it?

"NobodyMan" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:


"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers
are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will
deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.

Next time you speak with them ask... Probably simply related to their
experience base and their customers needs.




Lindsay wrote:
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it?

"NobodyMan" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:



"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
.. .

Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to

have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers

are

offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will

deny

it. It has nothing to do with piracy.


Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.

Greetings --

I'd have to wonder where they purchased their "certifications."

Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Lindsay" wrote in message
...
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not
necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it?

Lindsay wrote:
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy
Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may
have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal
copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because
your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

Plato wrote:
No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

Lindsay wrote:
The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of
computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for,
because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

NobodyMan wrote:
Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.


Lindsay wrote:
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not
necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it?

Lindsay,

Here is the situation. You posted originally (as can be seen in the thread
above) that if people had this "corporate" version (the correct term is
"Volume License Agreement") - then SP2 would work, but not with their "dodgy
Product Key". You inferred, right there, that all "Volume Licensed" copies
of Windows XP were pirated. Those are the only "dodgy product keys" out
there, the ones that have been pirated and deemed unusable by Microsoft.
Although I see that you were trying to be helpful, those that actually have
a pirated copy (and KNOW they have a pirated copy - so they would understand
what you are saying) - likely already have their work-around or have gone
out and purchased XP finally (I'm doubting the latter.)

Plato may have jumped to a conclusion by their response - but it was a small
hop actually - as I stated, you mentioned "dodgy keys" and "corporate" along
with the proper terminology. Maybe you just heard it put that way - but in
any case - you threw it out there.

Then you come back with the "Volume License" does exist. Yes - you are
correct. Confirmed. Heck - here's a link to a few web pages:

Microsoft Volume Licensing FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/faq.mspx

Volume License and Online Services Product Keys
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/r...l/default.mspx


Then you add some madness about "Large corporate companys with VERY large
amounts of computers" - which is not entirely true, as you can get a volume
license agreement with as few as five (5) computers. Check it out he

Microsoft Open License Value
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...openvalue.mspx

And then look at the different levels of Volume Licensing Agreements
compared he

Microsoft Volume Licensing Programs Comparison
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...eacompare.mspx


Additional madness then follows with your statement "It's not something you
can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy."
Uhm, yeah - okay. See, you asked, here it is. You can do a Google search
or a search with Microsoft's own search engine on their web site and find
everything I just sent you. It's out there, it's not denied at all.
There's not even denial about the fact that there are "dodgy product keys"
out there. These very articles prove the lack of denial:

You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error
message
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904

How to change the Volume Licensing product key on a Windows XP SP1-based
computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874


Now, I come to your last inquiry, specifically, "Then how come almost all MS
qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know
about it?"

The short answer, they are mis-informed or not as "MS qualified" as you
might think. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "MS qualified", to be
honest - but these guys obviously have no CLUE as to what they are talking
about OR they may be just telling you this so they don't tempt another user
into pirating software (or they pirate themselves and just don't want to
admit it.)

I hope this clears up the volume licensing (not "corporate", that is a term
originally used only by those pirating the "warez" copy of Windows XP)
confusion you may have. If not - ask more questions.

--
- Shenan -
--
The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of
completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any
kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any
advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions.

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license
or you don't.

I was not inferring all Volume Licensed users were using pirated editions! I
said that because if they are asking on this NG, it must be a pirated copy.
If it were not pirated, they must be working for a large enough company to
already know the answer.

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy
Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may
have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal
copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because
your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

Plato wrote:
No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

Lindsay wrote:
The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of
computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for,
because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

NobodyMan wrote:
Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.


Lindsay wrote:
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not
necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it?

Lindsay,

Here is the situation. You posted originally (as can be seen in the
thread
above) that if people had this "corporate" version (the correct term is
"Volume License Agreement") - then SP2 would work, but not with their
"dodgy
Product Key". You inferred, right there, that all "Volume Licensed"
copies
of Windows XP were pirated. Those are the only "dodgy product keys" out
there, the ones that have been pirated and deemed unusable by Microsoft.
Although I see that you were trying to be helpful, those that actually
have
a pirated copy (and KNOW they have a pirated copy - so they would
understand
what you are saying) - likely already have their work-around or have gone
out and purchased XP finally (I'm doubting the latter.)

Plato may have jumped to a conclusion by their response - but it was a
small
hop actually - as I stated, you mentioned "dodgy keys" and "corporate"
along
with the proper terminology. Maybe you just heard it put that way - but
in
any case - you threw it out there.

Then you come back with the "Volume License" does exist. Yes - you are
correct. Confirmed. Heck - here's a link to a few web pages:

Microsoft Volume Licensing FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/faq.mspx

Volume License and Online Services Product Keys
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/r...l/default.mspx


Then you add some madness about "Large corporate companys with VERY large
amounts of computers" - which is not entirely true, as you can get a
volume
license agreement with as few as five (5) computers. Check it out he

Microsoft Open License Value
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...openvalue.mspx

And then look at the different levels of Volume Licensing Agreements
compared he

Microsoft Volume Licensing Programs Comparison
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...eacompare.mspx


Additional madness then follows with your statement "It's not something
you
can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy."
Uhm, yeah - okay. See, you asked, here it is. You can do a Google search
or a search with Microsoft's own search engine on their web site and find
everything I just sent you. It's out there, it's not denied at all.
There's not even denial about the fact that there are "dodgy product keys"
out there. These very articles prove the lack of denial:

You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error
message
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904

How to change the Volume Licensing product key on a Windows XP SP1-based
computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874


Now, I come to your last inquiry, specifically, "Then how come almost all
MS
qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know
about it?"

The short answer, they are mis-informed or not as "MS qualified" as you
might think. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "MS qualified", to be
honest - but these guys obviously have no CLUE as to what they are talking
about OR they may be just telling you this so they don't tempt another
user
into pirating software (or they pirate themselves and just don't want to
admit it.)

I hope this clears up the volume licensing (not "corporate", that is a
term
originally used only by those pirating the "warez" copy of Windows XP)
confusion you may have. If not - ask more questions.

--
- Shenan -
--
The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of
completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any
kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any
advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:41:24 -0500, Herb Fritatta
wrote:

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license
or you don't.

If you don't purchase a license, but are using somebody else's then by
definition you have "stolen" it. Stealing is taking something that
belongs to somebody else.