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Old September 16th 18, 04:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Doe[_8_]
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Default OT: My Internet is messed up!

By now, it's obvious. Unlike what I thought and what others rightly
figured, it's not a hardware problem. Updating the IP Vanish VPN
software was the weird solution to having my computer banned from
the Internet for periods of time.

The only outages have been when the VPN disconnected and the Kill
Switch kicked in. No more occasional triangle on my taskbar network
icon, persisting even after reinstalling Windows.

I am left with not being able to use the Wi-Fi security camera while
using the VPN. But that is solved only with a change of VPN or
IPVanish fixing that bug.






I wrote:

My internet service is up and then down and then up and then down,
for hours at a time.

I think it's the LAN circuitry on the motherboard. I can swap out
the motherboard, but yuck. I would rather try any and every other
possible fix before that. I have tried a bunch.

My smartphones show the repeater is working via Wi-Fi.

Yesterday after my PC LAN Internet connection went down I tried a
clean installation of Windows. Installed motherboard drivers and
then LAN drivers, still didn't work. To me, that means it is
hardware.

Now I am developing conspiracy theories in order to avoid changing
motherboards. What if somehow my computer is being temporarily
blacklisted by either my local hardware or the Internet Service
Provider. You know, like something happens from using the Virtual
Private Network and my Wi-Fi camera, or whatever, and it triggers
some sort of temporary ban on my MAC address.

But of course immediately after reinstalling Windows and applying
motherboard and LAN drivers, there was no VPN software installed.
So it has nothing to do with VPN servers.

I updated the VPN software even though it mostly cripples my Wi-Fi
security camera. Thinking that staying with the outdated VPN
software is the only conceivable way such blocking of my computer
could happen. Whether it works will take at least two days to
tell. It's been maybe 12 hours so far.

Totally weird. Maybe the strangest problem I have ever seen,
especially if it is not hardware but rather something to do with
being blocked/banned.

If upgrading the VPN software does not work, I should immediately
swap motherboards. Gag.


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  #2  
Old September 16th 18, 04:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default OT: My Internet is messed up!

John Doe wrote:
By now, it's obvious. Unlike what I thought and what others rightly
figured, it's not a hardware problem. Updating the IP Vanish VPN
software was the weird solution to having my computer banned from
the Internet for periods of time.

The only outages have been when the VPN disconnected and the Kill
Switch kicked in. No more occasional triangle on my taskbar network
icon, persisting even after reinstalling Windows.

I am left with not being able to use the Wi-Fi security camera while
using the VPN. But that is solved only with a change of VPN or
IPVanish fixing that bug.






I wrote:

My internet service is up and then down and then up and then down,
for hours at a time.

I think it's the LAN circuitry on the motherboard. I can swap out
the motherboard, but yuck. I would rather try any and every other
possible fix before that. I have tried a bunch.

My smartphones show the repeater is working via Wi-Fi.

Yesterday after my PC LAN Internet connection went down I tried a
clean installation of Windows. Installed motherboard drivers and
then LAN drivers, still didn't work. To me, that means it is
hardware.

Now I am developing conspiracy theories in order to avoid changing
motherboards. What if somehow my computer is being temporarily
blacklisted by either my local hardware or the Internet Service
Provider. You know, like something happens from using the Virtual
Private Network and my Wi-Fi camera, or whatever, and it triggers
some sort of temporary ban on my MAC address.

But of course immediately after reinstalling Windows and applying
motherboard and LAN drivers, there was no VPN software installed.
So it has nothing to do with VPN servers.

I updated the VPN software even though it mostly cripples my Wi-Fi
security camera. Thinking that staying with the outdated VPN
software is the only conceivable way such blocking of my computer
could happen. Whether it works will take at least two days to
tell. It's been maybe 12 hours so far.

Totally weird. Maybe the strangest problem I have ever seen,
especially if it is not hardware but rather something to do with
being blocked/banned.

If upgrading the VPN software does not work, I should immediately
swap motherboards. Gag.



Cutting off a customer, is the quickest way to get their attention.

An ISP will cut off a customer, where a machine appears to be
part of a botnet.

Or say, you have a machine infected with SASSER worm, which is
sending worm packets to infect other machines. As the ISP, I
could cut you off. When you phone up, I'd tell you "remove the
SASSER from your machine, and we'll stop disconnecting you".

Mostly, these would be things programmed into the Deep Packet Inspection
box. The very last thing the ISP wants, is someone on the Internet
contacting ISP tech support and asking to have node 1.2.3.4 disconnected
because SASSER packets are coming from it.

What would the DPI box be triggering on in your case ?

I haven't a clue.

And the ISP tech support are generally clueless about the
ruleset in the DPI box. For example, someone with my old ISP,
did some email forwarding experiments, where the DPI box
would close just the port with the offensive traffic on it.
No matter what port the email forwarding server was placed on,
the DPI box would see it, and cut off the port. The port would
open automatically again after 15 minutes of no packets
on that port number. He phoned the ISP tech support (multiple
times), and no first-level tech support would admit it was
standard practice to filter off email forwarding traffic.
Because, of course, that *is* standard practice. Nobody
wants to be put on a blacklist for running their ISP
in a shoddy way. The Tech Support at the ISP were
blissfully unaware what their DPI box was doing.

When an ISP cuts you off completely, that could mean they've
detected botnet, C&C, Low Orbit Ion Cannon, or some other
offense. And they really want to talk to you. If you feign
cluelessness, they'll just keep cutting you off. Pretty simple.

And in case you were thinking "oh, they can just walk over
to that DPI box and let my traffic through". Hardly anyone
knows how to program those things. My former ISP (3 million
customers), had a mis-configured DPI box for three months
before it was fixed. I don't think any sort of "local talent"
programs these things.

Paul
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Old September 17th 18, 07:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Doe[_8_]
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Default OT: My Internet is messed up!

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:
John Doe wrote:


My internet service is up and then down and then up and then
down, for hours at a time.

I think it's the LAN circuitry on the motherboard. I can swap
out the motherboard, but yuck. I would rather try any and every
other possible fix before that. I have tried a bunch.

My smartphones show the repeater is working via Wi-Fi.

Yesterday after my PC LAN Internet connection went down I tried
a clean installation of Windows. Installed motherboard drivers
and then LAN drivers, still didn't work. To me, that means it
is hardware.

Now I am developing conspiracy theories in order to avoid
changing motherboards. What if somehow my computer is being
temporarily blacklisted by either my local hardware or the
Internet Service Provider. You know, like something happens
from using the Virtual Private Network and my Wi-Fi camera, or
whatever, and it triggers some sort of temporary ban on my MAC
address.

But of course immediately after reinstalling Windows and
applying motherboard and LAN drivers, there was no VPN software
installed. So it has nothing to do with VPN servers.

I updated the VPN software even though it mostly cripples my
Wi-Fi security camera. Thinking that staying with the outdated
VPN software is the only conceivable way such blocking of my
computer could happen. Whether it works will take at least two
days to tell. It's been maybe 12 hours so far.

Totally weird. Maybe the strangest problem I have ever seen,
especially if it is not hardware but rather something to do
with being blocked/banned.

If upgrading the VPN software does not work, I should
immediately swap motherboards. Gag.


By now, it's obvious. Unlike what I thought and what others
rightly figured, it's not a hardware problem. Updating the IP
Vanish VPN software was the weird solution to having my computer
banned from the Internet for periods of time.

The only outages have been when the VPN disconnected and the Kill
Switch kicked in. No more occasional triangle on my taskbar
network icon, persisting even after reinstalling Windows.

I am left with not being able to use the Wi-Fi security camera
while using the VPN. But that is solved only with a change of VPN
or IPVanish fixing that bug.


Cutting off a customer, is the quickest way to get their
attention.

An ISP will cut off a customer, where a machine appears to be part
of a botnet.

Or say, you have a machine infected with SASSER worm, which is
sending worm packets to infect other machines. As the ISP, I could
cut you off. When you phone up, I'd tell you "remove the SASSER
from your machine, and we'll stop disconnecting you".

Mostly, these would be things programmed into the Deep Packet
Inspection box. The very last thing the ISP wants, is someone on
the Internet contacting ISP tech support and asking to have node
1.2.3.4 disconnected because SASSER packets are coming from it.

What would the DPI box be triggering on in your case ?

I haven't a clue.

And the ISP tech support are generally clueless about the ruleset
in the DPI box. For example, someone with my old ISP, did some
email forwarding experiments, where the DPI box would close just
the port with the offensive traffic on it. No matter what port the
email forwarding server was placed on, the DPI box would see it,
and cut off the port. The port would open automatically again
after 15 minutes of no packets on that port number. He phoned the
ISP tech support (multiple times), and no first-level tech support
would admit it was standard practice to filter off email
forwarding traffic. Because, of course, that *is* standard
practice. Nobody wants to be put on a blacklist for running their
ISP in a shoddy way. The Tech Support at the ISP were blissfully
unaware what their DPI box was doing.

When an ISP cuts you off completely, that could mean they've
detected botnet, C&C, Low Orbit Ion Cannon, or some other offense.
And they really want to talk to you. If you feign cluelessness,
they'll just keep cutting you off. Pretty simple.

And in case you were thinking "oh, they can just walk over to that
DPI box and let my traffic through". Hardly anyone knows how to
program those things. My former ISP (3 million customers), had a
mis-configured DPI box for three months before it was fixed. I
don't think any sort of "local talent" programs these things.


Agreed.

Somebody at IPVanish might know the reason. It appears to be
programmatic. But programs keep count of things and can raise flags.

I might consider proper troubleshooting by repetition but being
temporarily banned is freaky.

At least they don't make me do CAPTCHA.
 




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