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Old September 15th 18, 08:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Had to kill Seamonkey from stealing this link.

Open Tunderbrd and did Send To: eMail

Got a Write in THunderbird BUT no Contacts To: etc.

Check and saw Contacts are there.

Did a Manual Write in THunderbir and got contacts at To: etc.

How to with Send To: eMail ???
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Old September 15th 18, 10:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
πŸ˜‰ Good Guy πŸ˜‰
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On 15/09/2018 20:08, puppylove wrote:

Had to kill Seamonkey from stealing this link.

Open Tunderbrd and did Send To: eMail

Got a Write in THunderbird BUT no Contacts To: etc.

Check and saw Contacts are there.

Did a Manual Write in THunderbir and got contacts at To: etc.

How to with Send To: eMail ???


Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird

You need to have good English to post on that newsgroup so that people
can understand what you are asking about.

Please also note that puppies are not entertained on that newsgroup.

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Subject: Send To: eMail (Thunderbird)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 12:08:32 -0700
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X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://freenews.netfront.net:119





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Old September 16th 18, 12:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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πŸ˜‰ Good Guy πŸ˜‰ wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird

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Old September 16th 18, 12:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 16/09/2018 00:46, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
πŸ˜‰ Good Guy πŸ˜‰ wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird


That Puppy may not want to create a new Account in TB for Mozilla
Newsgroups so the link I provided will work for him/her. It works but
the moderation process still goes on even using 3rd party servers.



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Old September 16th 18, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Both links work for me IF I use Firefox. Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.
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Old September 16th 18, 07:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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In message , Monty
writes:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Both links work for me IF I use Firefox. Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.


Mozilla say that the mozilla 'groups are exclusive to their server, and
not peered to the rest of usenet; in particular, that posts made via
other servers won't get into the 'group(s). I don't know how aioe gets
access to them.
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Old September 16th 18, 11:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 16/09/2018 4:53 PM:
In message , Monty
writes:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Both links work for meΒ* IFΒ* I use Firefox.Β* Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.


Mozilla say that the mozilla 'groups are exclusive to their server, and
not peered to the rest of usenet; in particular, that posts made via
other servers won't get into the 'group(s). I don't know how aioe gets
access to them.


The mozilla support groups are accessible via groups-google for those
who can handle that. ;-P
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Old September 16th 18, 01:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Monty
writes:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird


Both links work for me IF I use Firefox. Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.


Mozilla say that the mozilla 'groups are exclusive to their server, and
not peered to the rest of usenet; in particular, that posts made via
other servers won't get into the 'group(s). I don't know how aioe gets
access to them.


The active list search feature accepts at least a full group name.

https://news.aioe.org/tools/groupslist/

https://news.aioe.org/tools/groupsli...bird&exclude=4

Group Flag Total Miss First Last
1 mozilla.support.thunderbird n 1604 0 271 1874 No description
1 alt.windows7.general y 4849 0 30895 35743 No description
1 uk.radio.amateur.moderated m 274 0 4399 4672 Amateur radio (Moderated)

The "Flag" field indicates (one would presume) whether a group
accepts posts or not. The "mozilla.support.thunderbird" is likely
read-only. Whereas alt.windows7.general is read/write. I tossed
in a moderated group for good measure, to get the flag for it.

The "First" and "Last" could be article numbers, otherwise
known as the low_water and high_water marks. When using
NNTP protocol, when you query a group, the packet that
comes back has the low_water and high_water marks, and
this is how your newsreader knows there are new messages
waiting for it. The news.rc type file in your newsreader,
contains article number information (that it got from the
server) too. Numbers like that are part of a bookkeeping
system.

When you search for some groups, the coloration of the
entry changes. For some reason, this group has a description,
perhaps extracted from a charter at some point in time. Of
course, it's a Big-8 group, and went through a "process",
so yes, there would have been a charter document. Whereas
alt.* groups are manually added - there is no "process"
and no "paperwork".

comp.os.linux.advocacy y 18436 12 639490 657938 Benefits of Linux compared
to other operating systems.

mozilla.* is a foreign hierarchy, and there wouldn't be
any "paperwork" for it, either. Same goes for microsoft.*
which we're using right now. Microsoft.* is one of the most
"unofficial" hierarchies out there right now, in terms
of a paper trail and automation (control messages).
Microsoft shut off their server, without sending an
"official goodbye", which leaves the hierarchy in
limbo.

Paul
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Old September 16th 18, 03:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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In message , Daniel60
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 16/09/2018 4:53 PM:
In message , Monty
writes:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Both links work for me* IF* I use Firefox.* Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.

Mozilla say that the mozilla 'groups are exclusive to their server,
and not peered to the rest of usenet; in particular, that posts made
via other servers won't get into the 'group(s). I don't know how aioe
gets access to them.


The mozilla support groups are accessible via groups-google for those
who can handle that. ;-P


1. How does "groups-google" receive them?
2. If someone _posts_ in them via it, will their posts be visible to
anyone (other than other google groups users)?
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3-9 July 2010
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Old September 16th 18, 03:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Paul
writes:
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mozilla.* is a foreign hierarchy, and there wouldn't be
any "paperwork" for it, either. Same goes for microsoft.*
which we're using right now. Microsoft.* is one of the most
"unofficial" hierarchies out there right now, in terms
of a paper trail and automation (control messages).
Microsoft shut off their server, without sending an
"official goodbye", which leaves the hierarchy in
limbo.

Paul


Yes, but before they did shut off their server (possibly long before - I
don't know if they attempted to change things just before the end),
their server "peered" with the rest of usenet, such that posts, whether
originating from users of the Microsoft server or some other server,
were visible in the 'group, whether viewed on that server or some other.

AIUI, the Mozilla server does _not_ peer with other servers. Therefore,
if a 'group of that name does exist in the rest of usenet, there are two
separate 'groups with the same name - one on the Mozilla server, and one
on the rest of usenet. There may be _some_ "leakage", but if so it's
unreliable and asymmetrical.
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Old September 17th 18, 10:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 17/09/2018 12:35 AM:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 16/09/2018 4:53 PM:
In message , Monty
writes:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:46:40 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

? Good Guy ? wrote:

Thunderbird Support Newsgroup has been moved to this link:

news://nntp.aioe.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Are you sure about that link?
The one at the mozilla servers still works for me:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mozilla.support.thunderbird

Both links work for meΒ* IFΒ* I use Firefox.Β* Neither work for me if I
use Pale Moon.
Β*Mozilla say that the mozilla 'groups are exclusive to their server,
andΒ* not peered to the rest of usenet; in particular, that posts made
viaΒ* other servers won't get into the 'group(s). I don't know how
aioe getsΒ* access to them.


The mozilla support groups are accessible via groups-google for those
who can handle that. ;-P


1. How does "groups-google" receive them?
2. If someone _posts_ in them via it, will their posts be visible to
anyone (other than other google groups users)?


I don't use groups-google, but my understanding is, if you have a
groups.google account, you can set it up to read and post to any group
(e.g. mozilla.support.thunderbird).

Once you make your post, via groups.google, it gets relayed to the
news.mozilla.org server, and anyone on groups.google, moz.s.tb or via
the lists, will see your post and some might respond.

*NOTE* the support groups are moderated, so it may take some time for
your post to appear on the mozilla server and/or the lists!!
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Old September 17th 18, 10:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 17/09/2018 12:53 AM:
In message , Paul
writes:
[]
mozilla.* is a foreign hierarchy, and there wouldn't be
any "paperwork" for it, either. Same goes for microsoft.*
which we're using right now. Microsoft.* is one of the most
"unofficial" hierarchies out there right now, in terms
of a paper trail and automation (control messages).
Microsoft shut off their server, without sending an
"official goodbye", which leaves the hierarchy in
limbo.

Β* Paul


Yes, but before they did shut off their server (possibly long before - I
don't know if they attempted to change things just before the end),
their server "peered" with the rest of usenet, such that posts, whether
originating from users of the Microsoft server or some other server,
were visible in the 'group, whether viewed on that server or some other.

AIUI, the Mozilla server does _not_ peer with other servers. Therefore,
if a 'group of that name does exist in the rest of usenet, there are two
separate 'groups with the same name - one on the Mozilla server, and one
on the rest of usenet. There may be _some_ "leakage", but if so it's
unreliable and asymmetrical.


As I've just mentioned, elsewhere, John, the mozilla groups are posted
via groups.google as well as on the news.mozilla.org server. So a post
made to either location will also appear on the other!

Although so that use news.mozilla.org apply filters to "mark as read"
any post made via groups.google.
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Old September 17th 18, 03:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Daniel60 wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 17/09/2018 12:53 AM:
In message , Paul
writes:
[]
mozilla.* is a foreign hierarchy, and there wouldn't be
any "paperwork" for it, either. Same goes for microsoft.*
which we're using right now. Microsoft.* is one of the most
"unofficial" hierarchies out there right now, in terms
of a paper trail and automation (control messages).
Microsoft shut off their server, without sending an
"official goodbye", which leaves the hierarchy in
limbo.

Paul


Yes, but before they did shut off their server (possibly long before -
I don't know if they attempted to change things just before the end),
their server "peered" with the rest of usenet, such that posts,
whether originating from users of the Microsoft server or some other
server, were visible in the 'group, whether viewed on that server or
some other.

AIUI, the Mozilla server does _not_ peer with other servers.
Therefore, if a 'group of that name does exist in the rest of usenet,
there are two separate 'groups with the same name - one on the Mozilla
server, and one on the rest of usenet. There may be _some_ "leakage",
but if so it's unreliable and asymmetrical.


As I've just mentioned, elsewhere, John, the mozilla groups are posted
via groups.google as well as on the news.mozilla.org server. So a post
made to either location will also appear on the other!

Although so that use news.mozilla.org apply filters to "mark as read"
any post made via groups.google.


Looking at the headers of some of the messages, it looks like
Mozilla may be running a mailing list (listserv). Perhaps
there's a bridge of some sort involved there. I just noticed
the header was quite complex, and don't have the skills
to say exactly what their setup might be. It just doesn't look
like pure NNTP. Some of the MIDs in some threads, looked like
a regular NNTP MID possibly coming from their side of the
server (actually NNTP protocol).

Paul
 




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