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Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:
Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul, I restarted the computer and the nag icon is gone. So all looks good. Robert Don't forget to do the "Hide the update" step in the article. Otherwise, it *will* come back. It doesn't take No for an answer. Paul |
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Hello Paul,
I went into Windows Update and uninstalled the KB3035583 update then installed (3) optional updates. Robert |
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Hello Paul,
I seem to remember you telling me it wasn't a good idea to have different Administrator/User Account names on the computers. Is this for ease of file sharing etc? Thanks Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul, I seem to remember you telling me it wasn't a good idea to have different Administrator/User Account names on the computers. Is this for ease of file sharing etc? Thanks Robert The conventional wisdom is, if you're "Robert" on the 8200, you should have a "Robert" account on the 8500. I don't understand what the file sharing is doing with information like that. Whether it actually tries to log in on the foreign machine, with the same credentials as on the local machine. Or why that would be important. I use the same account on my OS installations here, for the most part. I've also had different results with the various OSes. I'm more likely to be prompted for a username and password, when contacting the newer OSes. Some of the older stuff, "just works" when I use it. Instant access. I don't really know a lot about file sharing, except how frustrating it can be at times. Paul |
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So it's just a good thing to do. Next
time I logon to the 8200 I change the names. I have another question while were waiting for the CD's. I installed Adobe Flash Player on the 8200 but I don't see it in the program list to execute it. I know I have it because I checked the Add/Remove listings and it was there. I even tracked the file down but I could see no exe file but I nevertheless tried all of them without success. So my question is, how do I get Adobe Flash Player to run. Thanks, Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
So it's just a good thing to do. Next time I logon to the 8200 I change the names. I have another question while were waiting for the CD's. I installed Adobe Flash Player on the 8200 but I don't see it in the program list to execute it. I know I have it because I checked the Add/Remove listings and it was there. I even tracked the file down but I could see no exe file but I nevertheless tried all of them without success. So my question is, how do I get Adobe Flash Player to run. Thanks, Robert On WinXP, you could look in: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash But that seems to be mostly "plugins" for web browsers. Adobe used to make a StandAlone EXE file, which was a "Flash Player" in the same sense as a Movie Player. But the copies of that I've got, I could never find any good content that would actually play in there. It seemed I could play some Shockwave animations in there, but I was having real problems with getting a movie to play. I seem to remember, that thing worked a *lot* better at one time. The modern versions seemed to be a shadow of their former selves. And the latest archive ZIP I could find, it was missing. Your browser plays Flash, and that seems to be about it now. The last standalone player I can find in my collection, is: flashplayer11_1r102_55_win_sa_32bit.exe And I can't get that to do anything. The thing labeled "flashplayerapp" is actually a control panel for configuring the flash plugin for Firefox. Paul |
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Hello Paul,
I tried uninstalling it and re-installing it with the same results as you describe. How is anyone suppose to use it? I followed the support links given and checked that the Shockwave Flash plugin was always activated which it was already. I then clicked a test button to see if my computer actually had Adobe which is did (the latest version 18 something) It then showed a picture below and said if I could see the clouds moving I have Adobe Flash player and I saw the clouds move. However there's no desktop icon and no 'new programs' under the program listing. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul, I tried uninstalling it and re-installing it with the same results as you describe. How is anyone suppose to use it? I followed the support links given and checked that the Shockwave Flash plugin was always activated which it was already. I then clicked a test button to see if my computer actually had Adobe which is did (the latest version 18 something) It then showed a picture below and said if I could see the clouds moving I have Adobe Flash player and I saw the clouds move. However there's no desktop icon and no 'new programs' under the program listing. Robert But I don't think they ship the Standalone Flash Player any longer. That's why it is missing. When you install plugins, as far as I know, they go here. C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash and the browsers have special arrangements to look in places like that. the last standalone player I have, was around Version 11 or so. And just about any test file I feed it, there is no output. So I gave up. The only practical way to do it now, is with a browser. Paul |
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Hello Paul,
Here's what I did: The Verbatim CD's arrived today and so I plugged my Patriot USB flash into one of the top ports I had never used before just to see if there was a difference I inserted a CD-RW disk and copied the files on it and verified it afterwards. http://i62.tinypic.com/nf2lgl.jpg Thanks, Robert |
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Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:
Mark Twain wrote:
Hello Paul, Here's what I did: The Verbatim CD's arrived today and so I plugged my Patriot USB flash into one of the top ports I had never used before just to see if there was a difference I inserted a CD-RW disk and copied the files on it and verified it afterwards. http://i62.tinypic.com/nf2lgl.jpg Thanks, Robert This is the wrong kind of burning!!! You want this. Imgburn. Write image file to disc. http://i58.tinypic.com/2lvoljk.gif When the screen opens to this page, there are five easy steps. http://i60.tinypic.com/6ifvol.gif Half way through the burn, the tray will open and close again. This signals the change from "write" to "read verify", and let it finish. Don't tamper with it. After a couple of minutes, Imgburn will play a loud noise through the speakers, and you're done. A dialog box pops up, saying it is done. You can now eject the media and close the Imgburn program. ******* The picture you showed me, is "drag and drop burning", and will make a CD that won't boot. The Imgburn way, it reads the ISO9660 file and converts it into a bootable CD. The ISO9660 file has room to hold bootable information, and Imgburn knows what to do with it. It's a very clever program. Now, you may insert the CD into the tray at any time, and use it to boot the computer. When you do, you should see only the Macrium Reflect software interface. The boot CD is not a general OS CD, and you cannot do other work in there. You can't use your web browser in there, do your taxes or anything else. The CD is now "single purpose", and runs Macrium for you. For when your internal hard drive is completely empty, and your Windows copy of Macrium is gone. Paul |
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How's this? http://i62.tinypic.com/168ziqc.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/4gqh5x.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2v0zo8p.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/2myzp0j.jpg Thanks for all your good help, Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
How's this? http://i62.tinypic.com/168ziqc.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/4gqh5x.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2v0zo8p.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/2myzp0j.jpg Thanks for all your good help, Robert The contents look reasonable. The Boot, EFI, and Sources look like a rescue CD, which is what that is, with the addition of its copy of Macrium. Now, attempt to boot the media, and see if a Macrium screen appears. It should look like the Macrium program when it is running in Windows. When you quit it, the CD should reboot, and then you select the hard drive for booting instead. It's possible on a reboot, it'll say "Press any key to boot from CD", in which case if you don't touch the keyboard, the hard drive should boot again. If it wasn't for that feature of some boot media, you'd have to press the BIOS key to enter the BIOS, then take the time to empty the optical tray. I didn't correctly interpret what was on your disc, from yesterday. Maybe you did manage to get it burned correctly, using just the Windows utility. But everything looks in order, so you can go ahead and test it. The reason I'm not a fan of "drag and drop" burn, is because so many people end up with a CD with a loose "rescue.iso" file on it. In the past, Windows wasn't clever enough to realize that rescue.iso needed to be used to make a boot CD. So somehow, before you used Imgburn, you must have convinced the 8500 (running Windows 7) to do that for you. Sorry for putting you to the extra trouble. Now, on with the testing :-) Paul |
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I loaded the Disk into the 8200 and restarted
it but instead of Macrium it took me to the sign-in page for which accounts I wanted to use. There were no prompts at all. So I turned the computer off then back on again with the disk inside just to make sure and it did the same thing. The desktop looks normal Robert |
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Unable to create a bootable rescue disk:
Mark Twain wrote:
I loaded the Disk into the 8200 and restarted it but instead of Macrium it took me to the sign-in page for which accounts I wanted to use. There were no prompts at all. So I turned the computer off then back on again with the disk inside just to make sure and it did the same thing. The desktop looks normal Robert The boot order must be set in the BIOS. Some PCs are set in this priority order. Floppy Optical drive Hard drive (1 of N) If your PC has Floppy - turned off Optical drive - turned off Hard drive (1 of N) then it will refuse to boot off anything but the hard drive. You need to enter the BIOS setup screen, and re-enable the optical drive, to come before the hard drive in the order. You will need to enter the BIOS and find the tab that has the boot order details in it. Ideally, you want the removable devices at the top of the boot list, so they get considered if media is placed in the device. (If their tray is empty, they get ignored.) But if the order has been reversed, or an important storage device has been turned off, you can end up with a very short list of things to boot. ******* Modern computers have pop-up boot menus. Your 8500 is new enough, to have such a thing. When the computer first starts, there is a short time window where you can press F2 or F8 or some other F-key, to get to the boot menu. The resulting boot menu, looks like this, and every possible storage device ends up in the list. http://cdn3.howtogeek.com/wp-content...-FLxgJQLy3.jpg The 8200 is not new enough for that. On the 8200, you have to enter the actual BIOS, and change the boot setting in there, to get that function to work. This article isn't the absolute best (as it doesn't look like the screens on your machine), but it illustrates both methods. http://www.howtogeek.com/129815/begi...omputers-bios/ Paul |
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:41:53 -0400, Paul wrote:
The boot order must be set in the BIOS. Some PCs are set in this priority order. Floppy Optical drive Hard drive (1 of N) Yes, but my advice is never to leave it set for the floppy or optical drive to come before the hard drive. It's OK to temporarily set it for either of them, but not to leave it that way. That's because it's always possible to accidentally leave an infected floppy or CD in the drive, and therefore get infected when you boot. I've seen that happen more than once. |
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