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Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet
Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having
saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. Here are the Ipconfig files (host, under XP Pro) first: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\EricBipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DJ0V621J Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-B6-4E- 7D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.41.163 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.185.98.39 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapt er #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-DE-49- EF Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter Connexion ADSL: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00- 00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.185.98.37 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.185.98.37 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.203.124.146 212.30.96.108 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\Documents and Settings\EricB CLient (under W2K) that I transcribed because in French and no diskette drive: Ethernet adapter Description...IEEE802.11B Wireless USB DHCP...Yes Autoconfiguration...Yes Autoconfigured IP Adress...169.254.109.136 Submask...255.255.0.0 Default Gateway....Nothing DNS...Nothing I hope you can help again. You can drop me a line on my email address = . Thanks for your time. EB -----Original Message----- On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:12:12 -0700, "Eri cB" wrote: Hi oeple! I have installed a wireless network and both host and client indicate a connection, but I can't ping either PC from the other. Can someone indicate what I am doing wrong (I disabled the Trendmicro FW). Host is running XP Pro and the client W2K. Cheers. Eric, How are the two PCs connected? Thru a router? Direct cable (which as to be a cross-over)? Please provide ipconfig information for each computer. Start - Run - "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote:
Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Did you configure the wireless adapter (on each computer) as adhoc (peer-to-peer)? Are they on the same channel? With the same SSID? Can you tell if the client is associating with the host? Why do you have 2 network connections on the host (3 including the PPP adapter)? Are you just intending to share internet service? Or will you be doing file sharing too? What does the third connection do? Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Checkk plse see my answers:
-----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. Did you configure the wireless adapter (on each computer) as adhoc (peer-to-peer)? Are they on the same channel? With the same SSID? Can you tell if the client is associating with the host? No association: I can't ping either computer from the other (Host timeout error msg). Why do you have 2 network connections on the host (3 including the PPP adapter)? See my explanation above. Are you just intending to share internet service? Or will you be doing file sharing too? What does the third connection do? Yes we plan to share Internet/files and the printer, but will just happy with ICS fro now! Do these answers help? Cheers. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:39:19 -0700, wrote:
Checkk plse see my answers: -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. OK, Eric, I'm confused. I've never seen a PPP connection result in internet service coming in by Ethernet. Maybe the route table will help explain things. Please provide the route table for the host. Start - Run - "route print c:\route.txt" - Open c:\route.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Try and explain what the PPP adapter, and the Ethernet adapter, connect to. If a cable, what's on the other end of the cable? Is there a modem somewhere? Connected to what? Can you access the internet from the host? Is ICS enabled between the PPP adapter and the Linksys wireless adapter? ICF should be enabled only on the PPP adapter. It will interfere with file sharing and pinging if enabled on the adapter connecting to the client. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:39:19 -0700, wrote: Checkk plse see my answers: -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. OK, Eric, I'm confused. I've never seen a PPP connection result in internet service coming in by Ethernet. Maybe the route table will help explain things. Please provide the route table for the host. Start - Run - "route print c:\route.txt" - Open c:\route.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Try and explain what the PPP adapter, and the Ethernet adapter, connect to. If a cable, what's on the other end of the cable? Is there a modem somewhere? Connected to what? Can you access the internet from the host? Is ICS enabled between the PPP adapter and the Linksys wireless adapter? ICF should be enabled only on the PPP adapter. It will interfere with file sharing and pinging if enabled on the adapter connecting to the client. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote:
Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Did you configure the wireless adapter (on each computer) as adhoc (peer-to-peer)? Are they on the same channel? With the same SSID? Can you tell if the client is associating with the host? Why do you have 2 network connections on the host (3 including the PPP adapter)? Are you just intending to share internet service? Or will you be doing file sharing too? What does the third connection do? Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Checkk plse see my answers:
-----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. Did you configure the wireless adapter (on each computer) as adhoc (peer-to-peer)? Are they on the same channel? With the same SSID? Can you tell if the client is associating with the host? No association: I can't ping either computer from the other (Host timeout error msg). Why do you have 2 network connections on the host (3 including the PPP adapter)? See my explanation above. Are you just intending to share internet service? Or will you be doing file sharing too? What does the third connection do? Yes we plan to share Internet/files and the printer, but will just happy with ICS fro now! Do these answers help? Cheers. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:39:19 -0700, wrote:
Checkk plse see my answers: -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. OK, Eric, I'm confused. I've never seen a PPP connection result in internet service coming in by Ethernet. Maybe the route table will help explain things. Please provide the route table for the host. Start - Run - "route print c:\route.txt" - Open c:\route.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Try and explain what the PPP adapter, and the Ethernet adapter, connect to. If a cable, what's on the other end of the cable? Is there a modem somewhere? Connected to what? Can you access the internet from the host? Is ICS enabled between the PPP adapter and the Linksys wireless adapter? ICF should be enabled only on the PPP adapter. It will interfere with file sharing and pinging if enabled on the adapter connecting to the client. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:39:19 -0700, wrote: Checkk plse see my answers: -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote: Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? Yes it is a p2P wireless setup: ADSL comes in through the PPP host adapter, via Ethernet (which I guess explains why there are THREE adapters on the host). If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Yes ICF is running on the host. I show a connection on both the host and client, ad-hoc automatic WEP-key, but no pinging possible. OK, Eric, I'm confused. I've never seen a PPP connection result in internet service coming in by Ethernet. Maybe the route table will help explain things. Please provide the route table for the host. Start - Run - "route print c:\route.txt" - Open c:\route.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Try and explain what the PPP adapter, and the Ethernet adapter, connect to. If a cable, what's on the other end of the cable? Is there a modem somewhere? Connected to what? Can you access the internet from the host? Is ICS enabled between the PPP adapter and the Linksys wireless adapter? ICF should be enabled only on the PPP adapter. It will interfere with file sharing and pinging if enabled on the adapter connecting to the client. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"
wrote: Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB OK, Eric, I think I'm getting the picture. Is your internet service PPPoE? That is, when you startup, does it "dial" and ask for an account and password? If so, you might do well to get a wireless NAT router. NAT routers (those I'm aware of anyway) are PPPoE compatible, and do so much better a job of running the PPPoE client, maintaining your connection, sharing the connection, and protecting the client computers. And infrastructure wireless (as opposed to ad-hoc) is easier to secure, and more reliable. But continue with the analysis anyway. We might be able to get this working. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"
wrote: Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB Eric, There are two possible reasons for "can't ping either PC from the other". 1) They are on a different subnet (logically). The host wireless connection is on 192.168.0/24 because ICS was enabled on it. The client wireless connection is on 169.254/16, because it is not getting an ip address from the ICS DHCP server, and is self-assigning an address. 2) There is no connectivity between the host and client. The client is failing to associate with the host in the ad-hoc wireless network. This, of course, will cause the above condition. If you had a wireless router and were unable to associate with it, the router log (on some brands) might indicate an unsuccessful attempt to associate, and, in some cases, the cause of the failure (bad WEP key, bad MAC address, ...). Do the drivers for either wireless adapter (host or client) have a log option? Check the Event Log on both computers (Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Event Viewer) too. When attempting to associate the host and client, and seeing "Excellent signal strength", try disconnecting / disabling the adapter on the host, then on the client, while watching the signal strength indicator on the other. Does the "Excellent signal strength" condition still show on each adapter, when connected and enabled, with the adaptor on the other disabled or disconnected? How far apart are the host and client when trying to associate? I note that the host adapter is described as "Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter", and the client adapter as "IEEE802.11B Wireless USB". Have you setup the host adapter as "B mode only"? Are both the host and client adapters setup on the same channel? Try a different channel. If currently on 1, move to 11; if currently on 11, move to 1; if in middle, move to 1 then 11. Remove all security devices for diagnosis. Disable ICF. Turn MAC filtering and WEP / WPA off on both wireless adapters. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Yes, I found it strange that the DSL modem "dials", so it
must be PPPoE. I will send the Route report tomorrow, 'cause I can't seem to get the remote access service I am testing to work this evnning. Have a good one! EB -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB" wrote: Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB OK, Eric, I think I'm getting the picture. Is your internet service PPPoE? That is, when you startup, does it "dial" and ask for an account and password? If so, you might do well to get a wireless NAT router. NAT routers (those I'm aware of anyway) are PPPoE compatible, and do so much better a job of running the PPPoE client, maintaining your connection, sharing the connection, and protecting the client computers. And infrastructure wireless (as opposed to ad-hoc) is easier to secure, and more reliable. But continue with the analysis anyway. We might be able to get this working. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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PS By the way Chuck, I can't seem to execute "route print
c:\route.txt". Am I mistyping the command? -----Original Message----- On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB" wrote: Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network Connections for some reason!). ICF is on the LAN adapter. The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer with an Excellent signal strength. I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log on remotely... EB OK, Eric, I think I'm getting the picture. Is your internet service PPPoE? That is, when you startup, does it "dial" and ask for an account and password? If so, you might do well to get a wireless NAT router. NAT routers (those I'm aware of anyway) are PPPoE compatible, and do so much better a job of running the PPPoE client, maintaining your connection, sharing the connection, and protecting the client computers. And infrastructure wireless (as opposed to ad-hoc) is easier to secure, and more reliable. But continue with the analysis anyway. We might be able to get this working. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. . |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:40:16 -0700, "EricB"
wrote: PS By the way Chuck, I can't seem to execute "route print c:\route.txt". Am I mistyping the command? Eric, Try "route print" from the command window. Then "route print c:\route.txt", again from the command window. When you do "ipconfig" or "route print" from Start - Run, it opens a window ever so briefly. Some mistake that for a problem, and get confused. So do it from an open window. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:25:28 -0700, wrote:
Hi Chuck! It is Eric from Paris (you might recall having saved a little of the hair left on my head by helping me configure Wifi at home after Christmas!). I am trying to setup a similar network (2 PCs) at our SOHO. SNIP Hi Eric! I'm a little unsure what you're trying to do here, and how your network is setup. But I'll start with a few guesses. Please describe the physical setup first. I see the wireless adapter on the host, and another on the client. And the PPP adapter on the host. I am guessing it's a peer-to-peer wireless setup? If peer-to-peer, are you then running ICF on the host? But the client is clearly not getting its settings from the host. So my guess is they're not connecting wirelessly. Did you configure the wireless adapter (on each computer) as adhoc (peer-to-peer)? Are they on the same channel? With the same SSID? Can you tell if the client is associating with the host? Why do you have 2 network connections on the host (3 including the PPP adapter)? Are you just intending to share internet service? Or will you be doing file sharing too? What does the third connection do? Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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