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  #46  
Old April 9th 04, 02:53 PM
Chuck
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to
a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the
host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP
adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in Network
Connections for some reason!).
ICF is on the LAN adapter.
The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth computer
with an Excellent signal strength.
I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to log
on remotely...
EB


Eric,

There are two possible reasons for "can't ping either PC from the other".

1) They are on a different subnet (logically). The host wireless connection
is on 192.168.0/24 because ICS was enabled on it. The client wireless
connection is on 169.254/16, because it is not getting an ip address from the
ICS DHCP server, and is self-assigning an address.

2) There is no connectivity between the host and client. The client is failing
to associate with the host in the ad-hoc wireless network. This, of course,
will cause the above condition.

If you had a wireless router and were unable to associate with it, the router
log (on some brands) might indicate an unsuccessful attempt to associate, and,
in some cases, the cause of the failure (bad WEP key, bad MAC address, ...).

Do the drivers for either wireless adapter (host or client) have a log option?
Check the Event Log on both computers (Control Panel - Administrative Tools -
Event Viewer) too.

When attempting to associate the host and client, and seeing "Excellent signal
strength", try disconnecting / disabling the adapter on the host, then on the
client, while watching the signal strength indicator on the other. Does the
"Excellent signal strength" condition still show on each adapter, when connected
and enabled, with the adaptor on the other disabled or disconnected? How far
apart are the host and client when trying to associate?

I note that the host adapter is described as "Linksys Wireless-G USB Network
Adapter", and the client adapter as "IEEE802.11B Wireless USB". Have you setup
the host adapter as "B mode only"?

Are both the host and client adapters setup on the same channel? Try a
different channel. If currently on 1, move to 11; if currently on 11, move to
1; if in middle, move to 1 then 11.

Remove all security devices for diagnosis. Disable ICF. Turn MAC filtering and
WEP / WPA off on both wireless adapters.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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  #47  
Old April 9th 04, 02:55 PM
EricB
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Yes, I found it strange that the DSL modem "dials", so it
must be PPPoE.
I will send the Route report tomorrow, 'cause I can't
seem to get the remote access service I am testing to
work this evnning.
Have a good one!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected

to
a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the
host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP
adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in

Network
Connections for some reason!).
ICF is on the LAN adapter.
The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth

computer
with an Excellent signal strength.
I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to

log
on remotely...
EB


OK, Eric, I think I'm getting the picture. Is your

internet service PPPoE?
That is, when you startup, does it "dial" and ask for an

account and password?

If so, you might do well to get a wireless NAT router.

NAT routers (those I'm
aware of anyway) are PPPoE compatible, and do so much

better a job of running
the PPPoE client, maintaining your connection, sharing

the connection, and
protecting the client computers.

And infrastructure wireless (as opposed to ad-hoc) is

easier to secure, and more
reliable.

But continue with the analysis anyway. We might be able

to get this working.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #48  
Old April 9th 04, 02:56 PM
EricB
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

PS By the way Chuck, I can't seem to execute "route print
c:\route.txt". Am I mistyping the command?
-----Original Message-----
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected

to
a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the
host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP
adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in

Network
Connections for some reason!).
ICF is on the LAN adapter.
The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth

computer
with an Excellent signal strength.
I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to

log
on remotely...
EB


OK, Eric, I think I'm getting the picture. Is your

internet service PPPoE?
That is, when you startup, does it "dial" and ask for an

account and password?

If so, you might do well to get a wireless NAT router.

NAT routers (those I'm
aware of anyway) are PPPoE compatible, and do so much

better a job of running
the PPPoE client, maintaining your connection, sharing

the connection, and
protecting the client computers.

And infrastructure wireless (as opposed to ad-hoc) is

easier to secure, and more
reliable.

But continue with the analysis anyway. We might be able

to get this working.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #49  
Old April 9th 04, 03:12 PM
Chuck
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:40:16 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

PS By the way Chuck, I can't seem to execute "route print
c:\route.txt". Am I mistyping the command?


Eric,

Try "route print" from the command window. Then "route print c:\route.txt",
again from the command window.

When you do "ipconfig" or "route print" from Start - Run, it opens a window ever
so briefly. Some mistake that for a problem, and get confused. So do it from
an open window.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
  #50  
Old April 9th 04, 03:42 PM
EricB
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.

================================================== =========
================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 0c f1 b6 4e 7d ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10004 ...00 0c 41 de 49 ef ...... Linksys Wireless-G USB
Network Adapter #2 - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x20005 ...00 53 45 00 00 00 ...... WAN (PPP/SLIP)
Interface
================================================== =========
================
================================================== =========
================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 81.185.98.39
169.254.41.163 21
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 31
81.185.98.1 255.255.255.255 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
81.185.98.19 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 50
81.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 50
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
169.254.41.163 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 20
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 1
Default Gateway: 81.185.98.19
================================================== =========
================
Persistent Routes:
None

-----Original Message-----
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to
a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the
host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP
adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in

Network
Connections for some reason!).
ICF is on the LAN adapter.
The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth

computer
with an Excellent signal strength.
I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to

log
on remotely...
EB


Eric,

There are two possible reasons for "can't ping either PC

from the other".

1) They are on a different subnet (logically). The host

wireless connection
is on 192.168.0/24 because ICS was enabled on it. The

client wireless
connection is on 169.254/16, because it is not getting an

ip address from the
ICS DHCP server, and is self-assigning an address.

2) There is no connectivity between the host and

client. The client is failing
to associate with the host in the ad-hoc wireless

network. This, of course,
will cause the above condition.

If you had a wireless router and were unable to associate

with it, the router
log (on some brands) might indicate an unsuccessful

attempt to associate, and,
in some cases, the cause of the failure (bad WEP key, bad

MAC address, ...).

Do the drivers for either wireless adapter (host or

client) have a log option?
Check the Event Log on both computers (Control Panel -

Administrative Tools -
Event Viewer) too.

When attempting to associate the host and client, and

seeing "Excellent signal
strength", try disconnecting / disabling the adapter on

the host, then on the
client, while watching the signal strength indicator on

the other. Does the
"Excellent signal strength" condition still show on each

adapter, when connected
and enabled, with the adaptor on the other disabled or

disconnected? How far
apart are the host and client when trying to associate?

I note that the host adapter is described as "Linksys

Wireless-G USB Network
Adapter", and the client adapter as "IEEE802.11B Wireless

USB". Have you setup
the host adapter as "B mode only"?

Are both the host and client adapters setup on the same

channel? Try a
different channel. If currently on 1, move to 11; if

currently on 11, move to
1; if in middle, move to 1 then 11.

Remove all security devices for diagnosis. Disable ICF.

Turn MAC filtering and
WEP / WPA off on both wireless adapters.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a

bad thing.
.

  #51  
Old April 9th 04, 04:01 PM
EricB
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.

================================================== =========
================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 0c f1 b6 4e 7d ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE
Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x10004 ...00 0c 41 de 49 ef ...... Linksys Wireless-G USB
Network Adapter #2 - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x20005 ...00 53 45 00 00 00 ...... WAN (PPP/SLIP)
Interface
================================================== =========
================
================================================== =========
================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway
Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 81.185.98.39
169.254.41.163 21
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 31
81.185.98.1 255.255.255.255 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
81.185.98.19 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 50
81.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 50
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
169.254.41.163 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 20
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
192.168.0.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 81.185.98.19
81.185.98.19 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.41.163
169.254.41.163 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.1
192.168.0.1 1
Default Gateway: 81.185.98.19
================================================== =========
================
Persistent Routes:
None

-----Original Message-----
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:00:08 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, our ADSL modem is attached by a cable to the
Ethernet port. The Linksys Wifi apadter is connected to
a USB port. I can access the Internet no sweat from the
host and I enabled ICS on the LAN adapter, not the PPP
adapter (which appears as a dial up connection in

Network
Connections for some reason!).
ICF is on the LAN adapter.
The Wifi network appears in the tool bar on noth

computer
with an Excellent signal strength.
I will try and send the report in a bit, as I need to

log
on remotely...
EB


Eric,

There are two possible reasons for "can't ping either PC

from the other".

1) They are on a different subnet (logically). The host

wireless connection
is on 192.168.0/24 because ICS was enabled on it. The

client wireless
connection is on 169.254/16, because it is not getting an

ip address from the
ICS DHCP server, and is self-assigning an address.

2) There is no connectivity between the host and

client. The client is failing
to associate with the host in the ad-hoc wireless

network. This, of course,
will cause the above condition.

If you had a wireless router and were unable to associate

with it, the router
log (on some brands) might indicate an unsuccessful

attempt to associate, and,
in some cases, the cause of the failure (bad WEP key, bad

MAC address, ...).

Do the drivers for either wireless adapter (host or

client) have a log option?
Check the Event Log on both computers (Control Panel -

Administrative Tools -
Event Viewer) too.

When attempting to associate the host and client, and

seeing "Excellent signal
strength", try disconnecting / disabling the adapter on

the host, then on the
client, while watching the signal strength indicator on

the other. Does the
"Excellent signal strength" condition still show on each

adapter, when connected
and enabled, with the adaptor on the other disabled or

disconnected? How far
apart are the host and client when trying to associate?

I note that the host adapter is described as "Linksys

Wireless-G USB Network
Adapter", and the client adapter as "IEEE802.11B Wireless

USB". Have you setup
the host adapter as "B mode only"?

Are both the host and client adapters setup on the same

channel? Try a
different channel. If currently on 1, move to 11; if

currently on 11, move to
1; if in middle, move to 1 then 11.

Remove all security devices for diagnosis. Disable ICF.

Turn MAC filtering and
WEP / WPA off on both wireless adapters.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a

bad thing.
.

  #52  
Old April 9th 04, 04:29 PM
Chuck
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
  #53  
Old April 14th 04, 07:13 PM
EricB
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such

an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts

please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #54  
Old April 14th 04, 07:13 PM
EricB
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Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such

an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts

please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #55  
Old April 14th 04, 07:21 PM
Chuck
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Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 07:51:03 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB


You too, bro!
  #56  
Old April 14th 04, 07:21 PM
Chuck
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Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 07:51:03 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB


You too, bro!
  #57  
Old April 14th 04, 09:37 PM
EricB
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Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such

an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts

please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #58  
Old April 14th 04, 09:37 PM
EricB
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such

an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts

please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #59  
Old April 14th 04, 09:51 PM
EricB
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB
-----Original Message-----
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 03:04:38 -0700, "EricB"


wrote:

Chuck, voila the route report!
Does this help?
Cheers.


Eric,

Verrry interesting indeed. I've not to date seen such

an intricate table.

Checkout the other suggestions in my numerous posts

please. There's a lot of
diagnosis to do.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily

a bad thing.
.

  #60  
Old April 14th 04, 09:57 PM
Chuck
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Posts: n/a
Default Wifi network recognised but can't share Internet

On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 07:51:03 -0700, "EricB"
wrote:

Will do but that will be for next week when I am at the
office location with both computers in hand!
Have a Happy Easter!
EB


You too, bro!
 




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