1803 vs 1809 ?

Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:23:02 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T


I did a fresh full install to an old i5 sandybridge laptop from 1809.
So far no problems.

On 28/11/2018 17:23, T wrote:


Go with 1809 and hold my nose?



*First tell your customer that you are not qualified to advice him or
her about Windows system. Make sure your advertising brochures are
clear that they are dealing with a rogue trader.*

No go and bugger off and stop asking us questions here when you are
swindling and conning old innocent unsuspecting people..

--
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satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

T wrote:

1803 seems more stable than 1809

As usual, can barely tell the difference between 'em, might as well go
with the latest.

"T" wrote in message news
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different
customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update
to 1809.
Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

If a new device, why revert to an 6 month old o/s version, then update with
cumulative, service stacks, and security vs. installing the latest via USB
media created with the Media Creation Tool which is current except for one
update.

1809 running here on a less than 1 yr old device, fine. No significant
issues. The only issue that needed correcting was at MSFT end - the camera
app icon was blank(uninstall/reinstall via the Store resolved it). My
Surface 3 is still on 1803 waiting for the update to be offered.


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On 11/28/18 9:41 AM, Dan wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:23:02 -0800, T wrote:

Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T


I did a fresh full install to an old i5 sandybridge laptop from 1809.
So far no problems.



Thank you!

On 11/28/18 10:01 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

1803 seems more stable than 1809

As usual, can barely tell the difference between 'em, might as well go
with the latest.



Thank you!

On 11/28/18 10:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
"T"Â* wrote in message news
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different
customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update
to 1809.
Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

If a new device, why revert to an 6 month old o/s version, then update
with cumulative, service stacks, and security vs. installing the latest
via USB media created with the Media Creation Tool which is current
except for one update.

1809 running here on a less than 1 yr old device, fine. No significant
issues. The only issue that needed correcting was at MSFT end - the
camera app icon was blank(uninstall/reinstall via the Store resolved
it). My Surface 3 is still on 1803 waiting for the update to be offered.





Thank you!

On 11/28/2018 11:23 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

What makes you think 1803 *seems* more stable than 1809?
Give me a good honest answer. They are equally stable in my opinion.

Now suck it up and get to work, Ya can't make any money sitting here
jawing. :-)

Rene

On 11/28/18 11:54 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 11/28/2018 11:23 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

What makes you think 1803 *seems* more stable than 1809?
Give me a good honest answer. They are equally stable in my opinion.

The complaining I read on this newsgroup


Now suck it up and get to work, Ya can't make any money sitting here
jawing.Â* :-)

Creating ISO and dd backups as I write! I do love Rufus!


Rene

Andy Burns wrote in news:g683g3F837kU1
@mid.individual.net:

T wrote:

1803 seems more stable than 1809

As usual, can barely tell the difference between 'em, might as well go
with the latest.

If you decide to go with 1809, check the blogs for the existing problems
with 1809. They all seem to be hardware related, and Microsoft's temp
solution is to not send upgrades to those machines. I think I would go with
1803 and let Microsoft decide whether or not to upgrade. You can also
selelct to wait for the corporate version before Microsoft updates you.

Go to Settings, Update & Security. On that screen selectd Advanced Options.
About a third of the way down you will see a select box. The options are
'Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted)' [the default], or 'Semi-Annual Channel'.
Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) is the option most of us use, and is the one
that gets the updates when Microsoft releases them. The 'Semi-Annual
Channel' is for organizations that don't want to upgrade until things have
settled down and hopefully the new bugs have been fixed. Basically, it
delays and new upgrades for several months till things settle down. Right
now I still can't get 1803 to install, so I have opted for the delay. By
the time I get that hopefully things will be settled and I can go straight
from 1709 to 1809.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:58:28 -0800, T wrote:

On 11/28/18 11:54 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 11/28/2018 11:23 AM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

What makes you think 1803 *seems* more stable than 1809?
Give me a good honest answer. They are equally stable in my opinion.

The complaining I read on this newsgroup


This is a support group. People come here *because* they have problems
and are looking for solutions (and most of the time they get
solutions). A group like this is far from representative of the world
at large, and judgments like that shouldn't be because of what you
read here.

As someone else once said, hang around a transmission shop for a
while, and you'll think that all cars have transmission problems.

But yes, there have been several problems with 1809, and Microsoft did
a poor job of releasing it and fixing it. But none of those problems
had anything to do with its stability.

T wrote:
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

There might be practical alternatives if this
was your personal machine, and you could tweak
as the situation arose.

But there aren't a lot of choices for a customer
machine.

You could put:

skylake hardware (seamless Windows Update)
Win7 SP1 Pro (other versions support too little RAM)
Classic Shell or equivalent

but the customer will be ****ed that the hardware
doesn't run at 5GHz, and it doesn't "look like" the
PCs on TV :-)

Instead, it's

coffee lake processor
W10 1809 (holds nose)

and then the customer can salt to taste (for some
version of "not worth customizing"). Then they will be
on the update/upgrade treadmill, where everything you
do is interrupted by frantic NIC activity for "maintenance".

Paul

On 11/28/18 2:40 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
Hi All,

I am putting together two custom computers for two different customers.
1803 seems more stable than 1809, but 1803 will just update to 1809.
(I do not turn off updates unless specifically requested by the user.)

Go with 1809 and hold my nose?

-T

There might be practical alternatives if this
was your personal machine, and you could tweak
as the situation arose.

But there aren't a lot of choices for a customer
machine.

You could put:

Â*Â* skylake hardware (seamless Windows Update)
Â*Â* Win7 SP1 Pro (other versions support too little RAM)
Â*Â* Classic Shell or equivalent

but the customer will be ****ed that the hardware
doesn't run at 5GHz, and it doesn't "look like" the
PCs on TV :-)

Instead, it's

Â*Â* coffee lake processor
Â*Â* W10 1809 (holds nose)

and then the customer can salt to taste (for some
version of "not worth customizing"). Then they will be
on the update/upgrade treadmill, where everything you
do is interrupted by frantic NIC activity for "maintenance".

Â*Â* Paul

I have 1803 on standby, if there are any hardware issues
with 1809. Now if the stupid motherboards would ever
arrive (Fedex Ground delayed a day).

On 11/28/18 1:10 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
As someone else once said, hang around a transmission shop for a
while, and you'll think that all cars have transmission problems.

That is an interesting phrase, but not a good one. I have several
auto shops as customers. Hang around them long enough and they
will tell you which cars are reliable and which ones to avoid.
They will also tell you what issues typically occur with what
models. (They really like my Subi.) Same valuable input
you get with this newsgroup.