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Old December 6th 18, 09:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

This article has no details of any changes - are the ISOs updates or just
another source?
https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-...d-524135.shtml

Links to
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7
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Old December 6th 18, 01:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

PeterC wrote:
This article has no details of any changes - are the ISOs updates or just
another source?
https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-...d-524135.shtml

Links to
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7


It's not new.

It requires a license key to be typed in, to get your ISO.

If you own a Dell, an HP, an Acer, your COA key will be
no good, and will be rejected. (The manufacturer is supposed
to support those people, not Microsoft.)

That leaves retail purchased boxed software. And you already
have the DVD from the box or sleeve for that.

The intention is to reduce the set of users who qualify.

So nothing has changed.

People who need the media, are Dell/HP/Acer users, who
had a disk failure, lost their Recovery partition, and
the machine is old enough, the manufacturer no longer
carries physical disc packages for the hardware boxes.

You can use Heidoc downloader tool at that point, as it
bypasses the key check done on the Microsoft site, and
gets the download ISO URL from a Techbench folder.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

Getting the Win7 ISO download from Techbench is now hard
to do. It was easy earlier on, and that tool had no
problem getting a download link. They had to change
methods, and the new method is "rate limited" on
link generation for Win7 downloads. Only "waste" a
Win7 generation cycle, if you really need media.

If you ask the Heidoc tool to generate a Win10 ISO URL,
that is considered "easy", and doesn't burn valuable
resources or deprive someone else of the chance to
recover their machine.

All the download ISOs come straight from Microsoft, and
the Heidoc tool just generates a URL to fetch it with.
The folders created on the Microsoft server, by the
Microsoft server, are only valid for 24 hours, then
the Microsoft server removes them. This prevents people
from posting a "good URL" to the Microsoft site, so
others can download the same ISO you got. Think of the
Microsoft scheme as a "URL scrambler", one which
normally requires a retail license key to gain access.

Paul
  #3  
Old December 6th 18, 05:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
PeterC
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 07:11:03 -0500, Paul wrote:

PeterC wrote:
This article has no details of any changes - are the ISOs updates or just
another source?
https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-...d-524135.shtml

Links to
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7


Thanks, Paul.
I didn't know if there was another SP with the ISO. I still have the
original on the PC and a copy of it on a USB stick.

It's not new.

It requires a license key to be typed in, to get your ISO.

If you own a Dell, an HP, an Acer, your COA key will be
no good, and will be rejected. (The manufacturer is supposed
to support those people, not Microsoft.)

That leaves retail purchased boxed software. And you already
have the DVD from the box or sleeve for that.

The intention is to reduce the set of users who qualify.

So nothing has changed.

People who need the media, are Dell/HP/Acer users, who
had a disk failure, lost their Recovery partition, and
the machine is old enough, the manufacturer no longer
carries physical disc packages for the hardware boxes.

You can use Heidoc downloader tool at that point, as it
bypasses the key check done on the Microsoft site, and
gets the download ISO URL from a Techbench folder.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

Getting the Win7 ISO download from Techbench is now hard
to do. It was easy earlier on, and that tool had no
problem getting a download link. They had to change
methods, and the new method is "rate limited" on
link generation for Win7 downloads. Only "waste" a
Win7 generation cycle, if you really need media.

If you ask the Heidoc tool to generate a Win10 ISO URL,
that is considered "easy", and doesn't burn valuable
resources or deprive someone else of the chance to
recover their machine.

All the download ISOs come straight from Microsoft, and
the Heidoc tool just generates a URL to fetch it with.
The folders created on the Microsoft server, by the
Microsoft server, are only valid for 24 hours, then
the Microsoft server removes them. This prevents people
from posting a "good URL" to the Microsoft site, so
others can download the same ISO you got. Think of the
Microsoft scheme as a "URL scrambler", one which
normally requires a retail license key to gain access.

Paul



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Old December 8th 18, 05:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

Paul wrote:
PeterC wrote:
This article has no details of any changes - are the ISOs updates or just
another source?
https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-...d-524135.shtml


Links to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7


It's not new.

It requires a license key to be typed in, to get your ISO.

If you own a Dell, an HP, an Acer, your COA key will be
no good, and will be rejected. (The manufacturer is supposed
to support those people, not Microsoft.)

That leaves retail purchased boxed software. And you already
have the DVD from the box or sleeve for that.

The intention is to reduce the set of users who qualify.

So nothing has changed.

People who need the media, are Dell/HP/Acer users, who
had a disk failure, lost their Recovery partition, and
the machine is old enough, the manufacturer no longer
carries physical disc packages for the hardware boxes.

You can use Heidoc downloader tool at that point, as it
bypasses the key check done on the Microsoft site, and
gets the download ISO URL from a Techbench folder.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool


Getting the Win7 ISO download from Techbench is now hard
to do. It was easy earlier on, and that tool had no
problem getting a download link. They had to change
methods, and the new method is "rate limited" on
link generation for Win7 downloads. Only "waste" a
Win7 generation cycle, if you really need media.

If you ask the Heidoc tool to generate a Win10 ISO URL,
that is considered "easy", and doesn't burn valuable
resources or deprive someone else of the chance to
recover their machine.

All the download ISOs come straight from Microsoft, and
the Heidoc tool just generates a URL to fetch it with.
The folders created on the Microsoft server, by the
Microsoft server, are only valid for 24 hours, then
the Microsoft server removes them. This prevents people
from posting a "good URL" to the Microsoft site, so
others can download the same ISO you got. Think of the
Microsoft scheme as a "URL scrambler", one which
normally requires a retail license key to gain access.

Â*Â* Paul


You can get one from the torrents, no product key necessary. You can
even get Windows XP:

https://torrentz2.eu/search?f=window...sional+x64+iso
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Old December 9th 18, 04:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

Jack of Diamonds wrote:
....
You can get one from the torrents, no product key necessary. You can
even get Windows XP:


https://torrentz2.eu/search?f=window...sional+x64+iso


But how do you know that is a clean copy?
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Old December 9th 18, 08:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default New ISOs for W7 and 8.1

Ant wrote:
Jack of Diamonds wrote:
...
You can get one from the torrents, no product key necessary. You can
even get Windows XP:


https://torrentz2.eu/search?f=window...sional+x64+iso


But how do you know that is a clean copy?


The MSDN ISOs had checksums listed on the Microsoft web site.

I could write a page about the limits of that, but
I'm not going to :-)

What you can do, is compute the various checksums on the
Torrent file you download. Then run the strings of numbers
from the checksum through Google, and see if that number
is a "popular" number.

If you run the checksum string through virustotal, a
certain number of "popular" ISOs have their checksum
entered manually by the virustotal staff. The Virustotal
site has an "upload limit". For official DVDs, they sometimes
manually insert the large DVDs into the virustotal collection.
But there are no guarantees that every language and SKU
of a certain popular title, will be injected that way.
Uploading an entire DVD, would exceed the virustotal upload limit.

Paul
 




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