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"Mark L. Ferguson" wrote in message
... "Total Commander" will run from a USB stick. http://www.ghisler.com/ Hmm, come to think of it, Microsoft's SyncToy (free) might also work. Have it installed but haven't needed to use it yet. Although not so stated, guess the OP wants a 3rd party GUI solution. I don't know how it handles copy errors. |
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"Noozer" wrote in message ... It's a pretty bad thing if you have a "copy" that isn't the same as the original, but you don't know it's not the same. The fact that the file can NOT be copied is the error, and obviously there was no copy made to be different than the original (unless you include non-existence as a difference). Duh! A copy of a file structure (multiple files, SINGLE copy operation) that is missing a single byte of information is "not the same." Not possible. If the copy fails then there is no copied file so there is no mismatch on bytes. Yes, a non-existent file is not the same as an existent file. And "the fact that the file can NOT be copied" is NOT the error. It's the result. The error could be a CRC error on the disk, file in use, path name too long, target full, etc... Which again means there is no copied file to have a byte mismatch. Or was it that you actually want the files copied that cannot be read? Not sure how you copy anything that you can't read, kind of like writing a book report on a book that you couldn't open. How do you run "xcopy /?" from the desktop context menu? I'm looking for a COPY/MOVE replacement. I'm not looking for a lesson in using DOS. Oh, so now the criteria has changed. Didn't see in your original post that you demanded a GUI application so you could wade through menus and select from a slew of options in one or multiple screens rather than specify parameters on the command line. Okay, then go try Microsoft's SyncToy. Might be better for you with its comfy, fuzzy, Fisher-Price interface. |
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Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:37:46 -0600 from Noozer :
What I want to do is copy ? of files from one USB drive to another USB drive. This should have read "...is copy 258gig of files, comprised of 600000 files and 47000 directories, from one USB..." Nope. "Composed of", maybe, but "comprising" not "comprised of". -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/ |
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:33:25 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:37:46 -0600 from Noozer : What I want to do is copy ? of files from one USB drive to another USB drive. This should have read "...is copy 258gig of files, comprised of 600000 files and 47000 directories, from one USB..." Nope. "Composed of", maybe, but "comprising" not "comprised of". Congratulations! You're one of the very few people who knows what "comprise" means. But why are you correcting his English? -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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The fact that the file can NOT be copied is the error, and obviously
there was no copy made to be different than the original (unless you include non-existence as a difference). Duh! A copy of a file structure (multiple files, SINGLE copy operation) that is missing a single byte of information is "not the same." Not possible. If the copy fails then there is no copied file so there is no mismatch on bytes. Yes, a non-existent file is not the same as an existent file. Uhm... Were are talking about a single COPY execution, which could include multiple files. If you do A copy to duplicate 10 files, and only end up with 9 at the target location then the resulting copy is different from the original. Say I hand you a file folder with 10 pages in it and tell you, "please copy these". You begin copying each page, but run out of copy paper at page 8. Do you return the result and tell me that it's done? Do you toss the first 8 into the trash and tell me that you couldn't do it? No, you give me a whole folder containing only SOME of the pages. And "the fact that the file can NOT be copied" is NOT the error. It's the result. The error could be a CRC error on the disk, file in use, path name too long, target full, etc... Which again means there is no copied file to have a byte mismatch. Or was it that you actually want the files copied that cannot be read? Not sure how you copy anything that you can't read, kind of like writing a book report on a book that you couldn't open. You're telling me that the cover of a book will never be interesting enough to take notes about it? But HOW is ignoring the failure in any way useful if you don't know why it's happening? How do you run "xcopy /?" from the desktop context menu? I'm looking for a COPY/MOVE replacement. I'm not looking for a lesson in using DOS. Oh, so now the criteria has changed. Didn't see in your original post that you demanded a GUI application so you could wade through menus and select from a slew of options in one or multiple screens rather than specify parameters on the command line. Okay, then go try Microsoft's SyncToy. Might be better for you with its comfy, fuzzy, Fisher-Price interface. I used that for a long while to do a backup at each shutdown. It had it's place. Still not any good for what I said. I *NEVER* changed the criteria. I asked originally for a REPLACEMENT. Something that works like COPY/MOVE but with some extra functionality. |
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Oh, so now the criteria has changed. Didn't see in your original post
that you demanded a GUI application so you could wade through menus and select from a slew of options in one or multiple screens rather than specify parameters on the command line. Okay, then go try Microsoft's SyncToy. Might be better for you with its comfy, fuzzy, Fisher-Price interface. Actually, I *am* going to change the criteria. I'm moving more files around now and realized that one thing I'd like to do is be able to do a pause on a long copy process to speed some smaller ones. |
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"Noozer" wrote in message ...
Uhm... Were are talking about a single COPY execution, which could include multiple files. If you do A copy to duplicate 10 files, and only end up with 9 at the target location then the resulting copy is different from the original. So you want the copy to first test if all files are readable before doing the copy? Okay, then use the already suggested method in my other post of copying to NUL to see if the files can be read before doing the copying to destination files. Until the program attempts to actually read a file, it won't know whether or not it can be read. You can run multiple commands at the DOS command prompt. See http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true for help on using DOS commands. By using the "&&" command delimiter, you can have the following command run only if the prior command exited with zero status, so you could run: xcopy srcSpec /s && xcopy srcSpec destPath [path]xcopy.log Since no destination path was specified in the first command, output goes to NUL. This checks if xcopy can read all the files included by the source filespec. If that command is successful then the following xcopy does have a destination path specified so the files that were already tested as readable will be copied by this second command. Maybe this gives you want you want. No files will get copied if any of them cannot be read. I had figured you wanted to get whatever files were readable. |
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"Noozer" wrote in message ...
Actually, I *am* going to change the criteria. I'm moving more files around now and realized that one thing I'd like to do is be able to do a pause on a long copy process to speed some smaller ones. Can't help you there. It's possible to do with a batch script but a lot of logic would be involved in walking through all the subdirectories starting at the parent source path to record the files with their paths along with their sizes, record into a table, sort that table by filesize, and then use a for-loop to copy each file in the order listed in the sorted table. Of course, to meet your first criteria that no files get copied if one of them is not readable, the for-loop would first have to perform a copy to NUL to guarantee the file could be read. If the exit code of the copy to NUL were zero then execute a 2nd copy within that for-loop following the 1st copy to NUL. The 2nd copy specifies a destination path so the file actually gets copied. However, that means that the for-loop would either abort on the first file that couldn't be read (so you end up with only a partial copy in filesize order) or it would simply skip the following copy and you end up with the for-loop completing but only get in the destination path the files that could be read okay. Alternatively, an if-statement on a non-zero exit code for the 1st copy to NUL could delete all files and subdirectories at the destination path and then exit the for-loop. The for-loop would contain 2 copy commands: the first copy goes to NUL to check the file is readable; an if-statement checks if the exit code from the 1st copy was non-zero and, if not , deletes all files and subdirectories thus far created at the destination path and exits the for-loop; and the 2nd copy would copy the file that has passed the test by the 1st copy to ensure it was readable. The single for-loop would result in testing each file in the order they are specified in the input list. It would also copy each passed file until a read test failed (and then do cleanup and exit). That means each successful pass through the for-loop would do 2 copies: one to test the file was readable and another to do the copy. The abort only occurs after some time has been expended on testing and copying each file that has so far passed. To get around the time for the copying, and because you want all or none as your first criteria, two for-loops would be needed. The first for-loop does only the testing that the sorted listed of files are readable. The exit value from the copy command (to NUL) is added to a variable (that started with a value of zero). An exit value of zero means the command was successful. After doing the copy to NUL and adding that command's exit value to the variable, an if-statement checks if the variable is non-zero and, if so, exits the for-loop. This would abort the testing for-loop when the first non-readable file was discovered. No point in wasting time to check the rest that the rest of the files are readable because, again, the first criteria is all or no files. The second for-loop to do the actual copying using the same sorted file list would be contained within an if-statement that tests the value of the variable was zero; if the variable is zero from the first for-loop then run the second for-loop. No point in doing any copying if any file was unreadable to meet the first criteria. So it's possible but I'm not going to spend the time to figure out the batch script. Good luck finding another GUI utility that first reads all files to ensure they are readable (rather than skipping on error or aborting on the first error) and then does the copying only if all files were tested as readable, and which does all copying in filesize order across all subdirectories starting from the parent source path. |
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Take a look at http://www.nonags.com/nonags/diskbk.html
They have lots of programs for file management and synchronizing. HTH On Jul 22, 6:37 am, "Noozer" wrote: I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? |
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ROBOCOPY is cumbersome but so so versatile and customizable.
"Noozer" wrote: I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? |
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PowerDesk. Has both a freebie and a pay for version. Will replace Explorer
if you want it to. Bad files don't stop the process of copying. Can copy filepaths, names, etc., as text; e.g. "C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\wordpad.exe" was done with a copy/paste operation. Many other bells & whistles. Also beats Explorer for search times. Go to www.v-com.com/product/pd_ind.html Looks like the freebie's he http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...scription.html HTH, Pop` Noozer wrote: I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? |
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PowerDesk. Has both a freebie and a pay for version. Will replace Explorer
if you want it to. Bad files don't stop the process of copying. Can copy filepaths, names, etc., as text; e.g. "C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\wordpad.exe" was done with a copy/paste operation. Many other bells & whistles. Also beats Explorer for search times. Go to www.v-com.com/product/pd_ind.html Looks like the freebie's he http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...scription.html HTH, Pop` Noozer wrote: I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? |
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"Noozer" wrote in
: I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? Go to Snapfiles.com and look in the freeware area, and see if theres any file coping software |
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Try XCOPY {source} {Destination} -h -i -c -k -e -r -y
-- SoCalCommie "Country Pumpkin" wrote in message 7... "Noozer" wrote in : I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XP copy replacment" or "xp file copy" generate a bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace the XP file copy? Go to Snapfiles.com and look in the freeware area, and see if theres any file coping software |
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On 20 Okt, 21:49, Country Pumpkin wrote:
"Noozer" wrote : I often copy large amounts of files. Nothing is more frustrating than having the computer copy files for an hour and then pop up an error. This means I have to start over. Now that Tucows has officially gone to crap I can't find any software there, and Googling for "XPcopy replacment" or "xpfile copy" generatea bazillion unrelated hits. Are there any GOOD file copy utilities out there that I can use to replace theXPfile copy? Go to Snapfiles.com and look in the freeware area, and see if theres any file coping software XP has a bundled utility for this purpose : XCOPY.EXE Open a Command prompt and write : XCOPY /? for a complete set of switches. Used with the /D switch, XCOPY will not copy files allready existing on target directory. "Power to the people!" PKM |
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