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Tablet problems Still
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If not is MS still updating 1709? -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads, installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If not is MS still updating 1709? kb4284819 is 2018-06 Cumulative (a few hundred megabytes sized). That's a "Patch Tuesday" patch for June. And you are correct, that kb4056254 is some kind of "actual bandaid" for the Upgrade process. More details here. https://windowsreport.com/kb4056254-windows-10/ The machine will probably bring itself up to June patch level, before upgrading to 17134.1. Paul |
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On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads, installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not is MS still updating 1709? I don't have a direct answer to your question, but I wonder if you've looked at the error log on your tablet to see what it tells you about the process. I'm also curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place? -- best regards, Neil |
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Neil wrote:
curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place? Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019 |
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On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote: curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place? Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019 I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then. -- best regards, Neil |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:
On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote: Neil wrote: curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place? Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019 I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then. In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems! |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote: On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote: Neil wrote: curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place? Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019 I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then. In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems! What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019? |
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Tablet problems Still So much for that MS fix
On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads, installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not is MS still updating 1709? OP: After reading what was posted to this thread, I decided to try 1803 again. I did a Disk clean including system files, I performed a Update Troubleshooting routine, and then did the install. The download went well, and the installation started, When it reached 22% it crapped out and return to the old OS. I am using MS defender as a security program on the tablet. With the Windows Update turned of Defender does not update. That is why I turned it on and discovered the addition 1709 updates. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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Tablet problems Still So much for that MS fix
Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote: I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads, installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If not is MS still updating 1709? OP: After reading what was posted to this thread, I decided to try 1803 again. I did a Disk clean including system files, I performed a Update Troubleshooting routine, and then did the install. The download went well, and the installation started, When it reached 22% it crapped out and return to the old OS. I am using MS defender as a security program on the tablet. With the Windows Update turned of Defender does not update. That is why I turned it on and discovered the addition 1709 updates. I'd at least install kb4056254. And you don't need Windows Update to get definition files. There are EXE files here, varying from around 105MB to 140MB, with the definitions in them. Select the version for your OS. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions ******* On a failed Upgrade, you can: 1) Check the log files. There are two log files. The smaller logfile is generated during the file copy phase. Once the reboots start happening, a second logfile is kept for those. Read the log and look for breadcrumbs. 2) Do the usual stuff. The first command checks whether a flag is set, indicating a problem. The second command actually scans the OS for problems. The third command scans and repairs. You can do these in that sequence from an Administrator Command Prompt. Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth This one comes next. RestoreHealth ensures the contents of WinSXS are sound. This one checks System32 and the files linked in from WinSXS. sfc /scannow In Windows 10, those are supposed to go online if they need files. You really want to look at logfiles for clues. Alternately, use your Google Foo, with search terms like "Windows 10 Upgrade 22% fail" as the percentage indicators, if consistent enough from one user failure to another, are decent breadcrumbs to use for a search. You should find some threads to scroll through. Notice in this example, there is a spread on percentage, with either 22% or 24% reported. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-2baef3aee7fb Paul |
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On 22/06/2018 18:09, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads, installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in services.msc That was a couple of months ago. Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803. I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819. available for the OS. Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not is MS still updating 1709? They are still supporting 1709, and I believe also 1703 and probably even further back. -- Brian Gregory (in England). |
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Brian Gregory wrote:
They are still supporting 1709, and I believe also 1703 yep and probably even further back. Only for enterprise and Education customers https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet |
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On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
If not is MS still updating 1709? Yes, so I wouldn't be too concerned unless you find indications in your logs that imply that 1803 isn't compatible with your tablet. -- best regards, Neil |
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