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Old May 3rd 18, 06:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when you
select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to Google when
you want to select another. They just keep reloading when you try. This is
in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the Firefox tab back to
Google, re-enter the search phrase and try another site. WebMD sites are
one example.

Suggestions? Or is it just me?

TIA


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Old May 3rd 18, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

KenK wrote:

Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when you
select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to Google when
you want to select another. They just keep reloading when you try. This is
in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the Firefox tab back to
Google, re-enter the search phrase and try another site. WebMD sites are
one example.


Other than a Google search on "webmd", I don't know what were the
hyperlink on which you clicked (and then wanted to go back to the Google
search results page). Of the "webmd" results that I got, the Back
button worked to take me back to the Google search results page.
However, I'm on FF 59.0.2 versus you on Windows where FF ESR 52 will be
the latest you get there. What does "return" mean. Is that you
clicking on the Back [Arrow] button next to the address bar? Or are you
tapping on the Backspace keyboard button? Both worked for me (to return
the Google search results page) but perhaps you have an extension that
interferes with the keyboard scan codes.

That is a Javascripted event preventing you from backing out of the
page. Your choices would be to disable Javascript (before you visit the
rude site) or use history in the web browser to move back to a prior
page (right-click on the Back button).

Since a hit in the search results may not be the page you want (if
doesn't have the info you want), why are you overwriting the current
page (of search results) with a candidate page that may not be relevant?
You're obviously finding pages in the search results that don't suit
your need and have to go back to the search results page. Middle-click
on the hyperlink to open the candidate page in its own tab. If that
doesn't have what you want, middle-click on the tab to close it. The
tab with search results will still be there because you haven't
perturbed it by changing that tab to a new page.
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Old May 3rd 18, 07:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when
you select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to
Google when you want to select another. They just keep reloading when
you try. This is in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the
Firefox tab back to Google, re-enter the search phrase and try
another site. WebMD sites are one example.


Other than a Google search on "webmd",


Some WebMD pages work correctly, some sometimes.

I don't know what were the
hyperlink on which you clicked (and then wanted to go back to the
Google search results page). Of the "webmd" results that I got, the
Back button worked to take me back to the Google search results page.
However, I'm on FF 59.0.2 versus you on Windows where FF ESR 52 will
be the latest you get there.


52.7.4

What does "return" mean. Is that you
clicking on the Back [Arrow] button next to the address bar?


Yes.

Or are
you tapping on the Backspace keyboard button? Both worked for me (to
return the Google search results page) but perhaps you have an
extension that interferes with the keyboard scan codes.

That is a Javascripted event preventing you from backing out of the
page. Your choices would be to disable Javascript (before you visit
the rude site) or use history in the web browser to move back to a
prior page (right-click on the Back button).


Thanks for an idea your comment gave me. I think I need to copy the search
phrase after I enter it and reload Google and use it after reading these
problem sites.

Since a hit in the search results may not be the page you want (if
doesn't have the info you want), why are you overwriting the current
page (of search results) with a candidate page that may not be
relevant?


I can't return to the page of search results from these sites. That is the
problem. I'm not overwriting the page of search results, it's no longer
reachable.

You're obviously finding pages in the search results that
don't suit your need and have to go back to the search results page.
Middle-click on the hyperlink to open the candidate page in its own
tab. If that doesn't have what you want, middle-click on the tab to
close it.


Didn't know about that. Will have to try it next time.

The tab with search results will still be there because you
haven't perturbed it by changing that tab to a new page.


Thanks.


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Old May 3rd 18, 07:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

KenK wrote:

I can't return to the page of search results from these sites. That is the
problem. I'm not overwriting the page of search results, it's no longer
reachable.


You can always return to a tab that you've left with whatever is its
contents. If you don't perturb the page then it is still there. Only
because you are replace the document with another is why you even have
to use the Back button. If you leave the search results tab alone then
you don't need the Back button to get to that tab. From the search
results page, open a candidate hit in a NEW tab all its own. Don't
perturb the tab with the search results.

Your description indicates you do a search, get a list of results, and
click on a hyperlink in that web page of search results. That means you
ARE overwriting the current web page by loading a different one. The
tab has a list of results, you clicked on one, and that page got
replaced (aka overwritten) by a new page. To get at the prior page
means having to either re-retrieve that page or grab it from the local
cache but you end up having to reload that prior page. If it is likely
that you want to reuse a page then leave it unperturbed in its own tab.

The Back button or Backspace key will trigger the Javascript unload
event which can be scripted to run something else rather than let you
simply exit. Disabling Javascript usually means the page has far less
content or may not even be usable. Sites rely heavily on Javascript
nowadays not only to effect behavior but also to decide what content to
display in a page. If you leave the tab alone wherein are the search
results, you don't have to use the Back button or Backspace key and
there is no Javascript possibly invoked for you to switch between tabs.

There are lots of uses for the middle mouse button. Opening hyperlinks
in a new tab is one. Closing a tab is another (without having to point
the mouse cursor at a tiny "X" button in the tab, if there is one)
whether that tab has focus or not. Middle-clicking on the page refresh
button will load a new tab to the same page. Middle within the document
turns on auto-scroll (sometimes a function of the mouse driver,
sometimes a function of the program). Middle-clicking on a folder in
your Bookmarks opens all bookmarks therein each in their own tab (only
the bookmarks within that folder, not recursively into its subfolders
and further down). In Firefox, if you enable middlemouse.paste (false
by default) then you can paste with just one mouse click (instead of
right-click and pick from a menu). Extensions can add further
middle-click actions.
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Old May 3rd 18, 08:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rodney Pont[_5_]
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

On 3 May 2018 17:16:50 GMT, KenK wrote:

Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when you
select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to Google when
you want to select another. They just keep reloading when you try. This is
in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the Firefox tab back to
Google, re-enter the search phrase and try another site. WebMD sites are
one example.

Suggestions? Or is it just me?


Try right clicking the back arrow. It shows a list of the previously
visited pages and you might see that the Google page is a couple of
pages down, just click on that.

(Browsers do this slightly differently but I can't remember what does
what so there is a bit of suck it and see involved but it should give
you the right approach)

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Old May 3rd 18, 09:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

KenK wrote:
Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when you
select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to Google when
you want to select another. They just keep reloading when you try. This is
in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the Firefox tab back to
Google, re-enter the search phrase and try another site. WebMD sites are
one example.

Suggestions? Or is it just me?

TIA


There's a trick.

Normally, clicking the back arrow once, does Back.

But for the obnoxious sites that seek to earn advertising
points by "keeping you on the page", click the Back button

*twice*

in quick succession. About 0.75 seconds between
clicks should do. The time between clicks has to be long
enough, so the first page "reload" can start, and yet
the second click can register. And then you'll be
back on the Google search page.

And in case anyone asks, because it's more fun to do
it that way. It's like a point-and-shoot video game.

Paul
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Old May 3rd 18, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

In message , Paul
writes:
KenK wrote:
Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when
you select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to
Google when you want to select another. They just keep reloading when
you try. This is in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the
Firefox tab back to Google, re-enter the search phrase and try
another site. WebMD sites are one example.
Suggestions? Or is it just me?
TIA


There's a trick.

Normally, clicking the back arrow once, does Back.

But for the obnoxious sites that seek to earn advertising
points by "keeping you on the page", click the Back button

*twice*

in quick succession. About 0.75 seconds between
clicks should do. The time between clicks has to be long
enough, so the first page "reload" can start, and yet
the second click can register. And then you'll be
back on the Google search page.


Though I think I've seen up to four or six dummy pages. That's why I'd
use the history function (right-click the back-arrow, or whatever works
for you). But the "video game" method often can work! (Or _always_
opening links in a new tab. But that soon gets old.)


And in case anyone asks, because it's more fun to do
it that way. It's like a point-and-shoot video game.

Paul

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Old May 3rd 18, 11:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Web sites that won't return to Google

KenK wrote on 5/3/2018 11:16 AM:
Is there anything you can do about web sites that appear nicely when you
select them the the Google list of sites but will not return to Google when
you want to select another. They just keep reloading when you try. This is
in Firefox if it matters. You have to switch the Firefox tab back to
Google, re-enter the search phrase and try another site. WebMD sites are
one example.

Suggestions? Or is it just me?


I set a Google preference to open a new page/tab when I select an
article. I set a FF preference to open a new tab rather than a new page
when possible. That way I can just kill the tab that a crap website is
trying to commandeer. Holding on to you is a variant bad behavior like
popups, etc.
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