Clean Install crashes at 34 Minutes Remaining

G'Luck

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I am actually from Detroit, MI. Moved here to get away from the 10ft
snowfalls!

It crashes at installing drivers. It also hangs a bit in the beginning
during setup at drivers.cab, but it does keep going from that point up to
the
place that I am now.

I am going to try and update the BIOS this weekend. Wish me luck!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Sorry, noone i know is crazy enough to live there,
Hurricane Magnet USA ... yes
Near the Great Lakes where 10ft+ snowfalls is the norm ...yes
On top of the single most dangerous fault lines in the hemisphere ....yes
In regions that have more "Inbreeding" jokes about it per capita ...yes

But in Oregon? ... that's asking a bit much


But seriously ....
Your problem has been narrowed down to 2 things,
it's caused by either an inability of XP to read a specific location of
the
cd ( damaged/dirty cd )
or it's trying write data to a specific location of the hdd.

If the install fails at the same exact point of the install process on
both
of your hdd's,
then it's not likely caused by a problem with the drives themselves,
unless Murphy has a crush on you and has cursed you with colosally bad
luck.
It's more likely a problem with the motherboard or chipset.
It is either failing or it isn't quit xp compatible.

Out of curiosity, what is the install proccess doing when the lockup
occures?
Is it still in the "copying files ..." proccess?
I'm gonna bet it's beyond that when it crashes, and is actually setting
up
the os
or it's at the "Configuring your system ..." phase.

Have you tried to see if XP would try to recover and continue the install
proccess, by
changing the boot sequence to hdd0 1st and cd-rom 2nd, after such a
crash?


Otherwise you have 2 choices:
take it into a tech shop (could get expensive)
replace the motherboard (which would probably require a new cpu and
new
memory type, if local shops don't still carry boards compatable with your
cpu/memory)







"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I know that I am goofy, but it came to me last night when I was trying
to
go
to sleep! This OS thing is keeping me up at night scratching my head!
Even
the goofiest ideas are starting to sound like possibilities!

All of my friends (all meaning one) have a laptop, so I don't think
that
they can help me out. You don't know anyone in the Portland, Oregon
area
that enjoys saving damsels in distress do you? Just kidding!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

lol, your math is adding percentile to get minutes
It's just a coincidence, but have you examined your xp cd for scrathes
or
cracks or other flaws?

I still think it's the motherboard.
If you have a friend (locally) thats willing to help, try putting your
hdd
in his comp (with no other hdds attached) and see if you can install
xp
onto
it.
If it succeeds, the installation won't be useable on your system, but
it
would prove that hdd
is innocent, which would leave only your video card, cd drive &
motherboard.
If you have or can borrow a cd/dvd drive & video card to substitute
for
yours .......


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I do not have the previous motherboard.

When I thought that my previous HD had failed, I did try
reformatting
and
partitioning it. Windows XP did the same thing when installing
which
is
why
I thought the old drive was a goner (the HD crashed and wouldn't
load
the
OS
before I reformatted and tried to reinstall the OS).

I tried the IDE cable from the previous HD, but same deal.

Another interesting thing is going on... Setup stalls at the
drivers.cab
file at 17% complete - Then when the OS is trying to install, it
crashes
at
34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but I do know that 17+17=34...
Coincidence? I can't find much on the www regarding the driver.cab
file.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

I'm sorry, i don't know of any dos based motherboard utilities.
The WD cd will only find problems with the hdd, and it won't
necessarily
cause the same lockup as the XP install cd.

I know it's a longshot....but do you still have the previous
motherboard
around?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
S.,


I am sure I could find this on the www, but is there a way to
diagnose
the
motherboard before going out and buying a whole new one? The WD
Lifeguard
Tools CD works fine and I would think that there would be
conflicts
with
that
if it was a motherboard or connections issue. I could be wrong


"S. Taylor" wrote:

I'm concerned about your wording in your response to my other
post.
You said you took the jumper connector off the hdd?

I've had hdd's in the past that had compatability issues when
playing
with
the
jumper settings.
You should make absolutely certain the drive IS jumpered as
Master
The drive should have a schematic indicating the 3 jumper
configurations,
either on it's top or etched onto the back, just above the
jumpers.

Since you have 3 EIDE cables, try a different one on the hdd.
It's ok to use different EIDE cable as longe as the cable
suppoerts
the
drive type.
i.e. Floppy ide cable for the floppy drive & ATA 133 ide cable
for
an
ATA
133 IDE drive
See neils post, about connector colors being used as an easy
indicator
of
a
cable being
ATA 133.

What you say in this post makes me more confident, that the
issue
lies
with
your motherboard
itself.

I use a Western Digital 120gb and a Western Digital 14gb hard
drives
and
haven't had any
compatability issues with them, and I've had the 14gb since
windows
95
(atleast 5yrs).

It could be a problem with the motherboard's chipset.
I'm guessing it's not an AMDor NVidia chipset, probably
something
closer
to
an ALI chipset.

And since you remember having similar issues with the pervious
hdd,
you
should
check into bios upgrades ...again.
Use extreme cation when upgrading your bios, use the bios from
the
motherboards manufacture, only, and only use thier flash
utility.



"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
S. I am using the IDE cable that came with the hard drive (it
specifically
told me to use this in the setup instructions). But I do
still
have
my
original cable from my previous HD.

I don't find an anti-virus or MBR protection in my BIOS. I am
unfamiliar
with the BIOS, so I will look through again.

Traci

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Do you have any extra IDE cables you can try out and are you
sure
the
cable you're currently using is "ATA/ATAPI 133" compliant? (I
hope
i
worded
that right )
Do you have the BIOS' "anti-virus" or MBR protection
disabled?





"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min"
soft.com
wrote
in
message
news Wow! Everyone has such great advice!!! I really
appreciate
all
of
the
replies just since my posting today : ) Great teamwork!

Anna - I basically played around with my BIOS settings as
much
as
I
could
to
no avail. After doing this, I reset to the same settings I
had
before
getting myself into this mess!

The Western Digital hard drive is the only hard drive I
have
(it
is
exactly
the same size and brand as the one that just crashed).
"Lifeguard
Data
Tools", I later read on the user comments on the Circuit
City
website
is
not
compatable with Windows XP Pro. So, I reformatted the hard
drive
using
the
XP Pro CD and created a partition (I don't really
understand
partitions,
so I
only did one). Same end result.

Jumper is off. I even tried another setting suggested in
the
hard
drive
installation guide, but ulitmately removed the jumper.

I'd say I have repeated the installation process 50 times
: )
At
one
point,
it went a tiny bit longer(during installation, the screen
flashes
little
facts about the OS - One time, I was able to see a screen
that
I
had
not
seen
before before it crashed, but that was fleeting and only
happened
the
one
time!). I keep hoping that the 51st time is a charm, but I
am
also
a
hopeless optimistic!

I will recheck my components.

Traci

"Anna" wrote:


"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" Windows XP
Pro
Install
Crash
at

I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any scratches or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the OS is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much on the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's own IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not boot at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home. Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on IDE1. Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable is a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is one of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected the IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP Pro it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

No changes! Ugh!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

G'Luck

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I am actually from Detroit, MI. Moved here to get away from the 10ft
snowfalls!

It crashes at installing drivers. It also hangs a bit in the beginning
during setup at drivers.cab, but it does keep going from that point up to
the
place that I am now.

I am going to try and update the BIOS this weekend. Wish me luck!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Sorry, noone i know is crazy enough to live there,
Hurricane Magnet USA ... yes
Near the Great Lakes where 10ft+ snowfalls is the norm ...yes
On top of the single most dangerous fault lines in the hemisphere ....yes
In regions that have more "Inbreeding" jokes about it per capita ...yes

But in Oregon? ... that's asking a bit much


But seriously ....
Your problem has been narrowed down to 2 things,
it's caused by either an inability of XP to read a specific location of
the
cd ( damaged/dirty cd )
or it's trying write data to a specific location of the hdd.

If the install fails at the same exact point of the install process on
both
of your hdd's,
then it's not likely caused by a problem with the drives themselves,
unless Murphy has a crush on you and has cursed you with colosally bad
luck.
It's more likely a problem with the motherboard or chipset.
It is either failing or it isn't quit xp compatible.

Out of curiosity, what is the install proccess doing when the lockup
occures?
Is it still in the "copying files ..." proccess?
I'm gonna bet it's beyond that when it crashes, and is actually setting
up
the os
or it's at the "Configuring your system ..." phase.

Have you tried to see if XP would try to recover and continue the install
proccess, by
changing the boot sequence to hdd0 1st and cd-rom 2nd, after such a
crash?


Otherwise you have 2 choices:
take it into a tech shop (could get expensive)
replace the motherboard (which would probably require a new cpu and
new
memory type, if local shops don't still carry boards compatable with your
cpu/memory)







"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I know that I am goofy, but it came to me last night when I was trying
to
go
to sleep! This OS thing is keeping me up at night scratching my head!
Even
the goofiest ideas are starting to sound like possibilities!

All of my friends (all meaning one) have a laptop, so I don't think
that
they can help me out. You don't know anyone in the Portland, Oregon
area
that enjoys saving damsels in distress do you? Just kidding!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

lol, your math is adding percentile to get minutes
It's just a coincidence, but have you examined your xp cd for scrathes
or
cracks or other flaws?

I still think it's the motherboard.
If you have a friend (locally) thats willing to help, try putting your
hdd
in his comp (with no other hdds attached) and see if you can install
xp
onto
it.
If it succeeds, the installation won't be useable on your system, but
it
would prove that hdd
is innocent, which would leave only your video card, cd drive &
motherboard.
If you have or can borrow a cd/dvd drive & video card to substitute
for
yours .......


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I do not have the previous motherboard.

When I thought that my previous HD had failed, I did try
reformatting
and
partitioning it. Windows XP did the same thing when installing
which
is
why
I thought the old drive was a goner (the HD crashed and wouldn't
load
the
OS
before I reformatted and tried to reinstall the OS).

I tried the IDE cable from the previous HD, but same deal.

Another interesting thing is going on... Setup stalls at the
drivers.cab
file at 17% complete - Then when the OS is trying to install, it
crashes
at
34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but I do know that 17+17=34...
Coincidence? I can't find much on the www regarding the driver.cab
file.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

I'm sorry, i don't know of any dos based motherboard utilities.
The WD cd will only find problems with the hdd, and it won't
necessarily
cause the same lockup as the XP install cd.

I know it's a longshot....but do you still have the previous
motherboard
around?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
S.,


I am sure I could find this on the www, but is there a way to
diagnose
the
motherboard before going out and buying a whole new one? The WD
Lifeguard
Tools CD works fine and I would think that there would be
conflicts
with
that
if it was a motherboard or connections issue. I could be wrong


"S. Taylor" wrote:

I'm concerned about your wording in your response to my other
post.
You said you took the jumper connector off the hdd?

I've had hdd's in the past that had compatability issues when
playing
with
the
jumper settings.
You should make absolutely certain the drive IS jumpered as
Master
The drive should have a schematic indicating the 3 jumper
configurations,
either on it's top or etched onto the back, just above the
jumpers.

Since you have 3 EIDE cables, try a different one on the hdd.
It's ok to use different EIDE cable as longe as the cable
suppoerts
the
drive type.
i.e. Floppy ide cable for the floppy drive & ATA 133 ide cable
for
an
ATA
133 IDE drive
See neils post, about connector colors being used as an easy
indicator
of
a
cable being
ATA 133.

What you say in this post makes me more confident, that the
issue
lies
with
your motherboard
itself.

I use a Western Digital 120gb and a Western Digital 14gb hard
drives
and
haven't had any
compatability issues with them, and I've had the 14gb since
windows
95
(atleast 5yrs).

It could be a problem with the motherboard's chipset.
I'm guessing it's not an AMDor NVidia chipset, probably
something
closer
to
an ALI chipset.

And since you remember having similar issues with the pervious
hdd,
you
should
check into bios upgrades ...again.
Use extreme cation when upgrading your bios, use the bios from
the
motherboards manufacture, only, and only use thier flash
utility.



"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
S. I am using the IDE cable that came with the hard drive (it
specifically
told me to use this in the setup instructions). But I do
still
have
my
original cable from my previous HD.

I don't find an anti-virus or MBR protection in my BIOS. I am
unfamiliar
with the BIOS, so I will look through again.

Traci

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Do you have any extra IDE cables you can try out and are you
sure
the
cable you're currently using is "ATA/ATAPI 133" compliant? (I
hope
i
worded
that right )
Do you have the BIOS' "anti-virus" or MBR protection
disabled?





"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min"
soft.com
wrote
in
message
news Wow! Everyone has such great advice!!! I really
appreciate
all
of
the
replies just since my posting today : ) Great teamwork!

Anna - I basically played around with my BIOS settings as
much
as
I
could
to
no avail. After doing this, I reset to the same settings I
had
before
getting myself into this mess!

The Western Digital hard drive is the only hard drive I
have
(it
is
exactly
the same size and brand as the one that just crashed).
"Lifeguard

I had a check over the weekend and could only find references to
poor/mis-matched memory or a faulty CD.

"Stumped" you and me both. I suppose the only thing is replacing the memory
with new modules, although if it isn't that it's an expensive option to try.

Sorry
Neil.
"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit, and you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks, smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking that
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs ok. Nobody seems to have
one laying around.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit, and you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks, smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard, but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

That leaves only the video card and the motherboard.
Do you have a spare? or know someone you can borrow one from?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking that
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs ok. Nobody seems to have
one laying around.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day
trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit, and
you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks,
smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any
scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the
OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard,
but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much
on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's
own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not
boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as
primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on
IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set
correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable
is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should
be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I
bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems
like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is
one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how
to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had
replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected
the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP
Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

Unfortunately for me, the people I know all have laptops.

I will let you know if I can get the GoldMemory test to shed any light on
this.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

That leaves only the video card and the motherboard.
Do you have a spare? or know someone you can borrow one from?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking that
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs ok. Nobody seems to have
one laying around.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day
trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit, and
you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks,
smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any
scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the
OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard,
but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much
on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's
own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not
boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as
primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on
IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set
correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable
is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should
be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I
bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems
like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is
one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how
to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had
replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected
the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP
Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

GoldMemory did not find any problems when I ran it.

I guess that this is a lost cause and I will have to give up on XP Pro and
purchase another OS. At least that way I can narrow it down to the OS vs.
everything else!

Thanks for all of your help.

"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Unfortunately for me, the people I know all have laptops.

I will let you know if I can get the GoldMemory test to shed any light on
this.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

That leaves only the video card and the motherboard.
Do you have a spare? or know someone you can borrow one from?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking that
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs ok. Nobody seems to have
one laying around.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day
trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit, and
you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks,
smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes. I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any
scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then when the
OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math wizard,
but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17% after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find much
on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on it's
own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would not
boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as
primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master on
IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set
correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the cable
is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector should
be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2 sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so I
bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too. Seems
like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think is
one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as to how
to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had
replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I connected
the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing Windows XP
Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

It's not the OS.
No OS should crash during installation on a clean system, unless there are
hardware problems.
I'm certain it's the motherboard and buying another OS won't fix the
problem,
and your only other OS choices either ain't for novices(Unix, etc.) or
require a specialized
computer (I.E. a Mac ).
You can take the motherboard into to a repair shop and ask them to test it,
if you want
to make sure it's the culprit (I believe it is).
Call around to the various computer stores and get quotes on a new
motherboard that is
compatable with the memory chips and P4 that you already have (should cost
less then $100).
If anyone has any, I'd personally suggest you stay away from motherboards
with an ALI or VIA chipset, and it'll probably cost less then buying a new
OS and getting stuck with the XP OS and
never using it.

If they have one compatable with your proccessor, then you save alot of
money
by switching to an AMD processor.
Most computer stores also offer barebones systems for a low price, and
include
a tower case, power supply, motherboard, memory, and cpu.
In my area I could get a barebones system for $180 - $250
Or I could get a separate motherboard, AMD cpu & 512mb ram for about $230.
And since I live in a state with a higher cost of living then Oregon, you
could probably
find slightly better prices locally



"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
GoldMemory did not find any problems when I ran it.

I guess that this is a lost cause and I will have to give up on XP Pro and
purchase another OS. At least that way I can narrow it down to the OS vs.
everything else!

Thanks for all of your help.

"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Unfortunately for me, the people I know all have laptops.

I will let you know if I can get the GoldMemory test to shed any light on
this.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

That leaves only the video card and the motherboard.
Do you have a spare? or know someone you can borrow one from?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated
no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it
thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking that
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs ok. Nobody seems to
have
one laying around.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

Neil has a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
Read over http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp about using
Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
You'll need to down load it on a good comp and run the installation
program to have it create is startup disk.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp explains how to use it.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/GoldMemory_d325.html is a shareware(30day
trial)
memory tester that is supposed to detect motherboard vs memory
incompatabilities
and incorrect settings.

You also need to clear the cd drive and video card as the culprit,
and
you
can only do so
by using different ones when installing XP.

I'm sorry, i just read down, and saw that you cleared the dvd drive.
When you used the older cd drive, did you connect it as Master on
the 2nd
IDE channel
and the hdd as Master on the primary ide channel?
I doubt it would've made a difference.

I'm also assuming that you used the Western Digital diagnostic tools
to
check for
errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks,
smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
I double and triple checked everything all weekend... No changes.
I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any
scratches
or
marks on the disk are there. Then again I bet that was the first
thing
you
thought of.
I'll have a look around the web myself..............

Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
Neil - Kind of interesting...

Setup stalls at the drivers.cab file at 17% complete - Then
when the
OS
is
trying to install, it crashes at 34 minutes - I am not math
wizard,
but
I
do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17%
after the
reboot
and during the attemp to install. Coincidence? I can't find
much
on
the
www
regarding the driver.cab file.


"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on
it's
own
IDE
cable. HD only thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide cable
Blue end
plugged
into motherboard.

I did try removing memory a few days ago and my machine would
not
boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get
home.
Can't
hurt!

Traci

"neil" wrote:

So you have the new hard drive on its own IDE cable set as
primary
master on
IDE0 and the cdrom drive on its own cable as primary master
on
IDE1.
Is
that
right, and you are sure the drives have their links set
correctly.
Just one more thing assuming the hard drive is a ATA133 the
cable
is
a
80
wire with a blue connector at one end, the blue connector
should
be
connected to the motherboard connector.
But yes you're right to check the memory if you have 2
sticks and
can
remove
one to half the memory then try the install with just one
stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote
in
message
...
Another interesting tidbit that I just remembered! I have
done
and
redone
the install so many times, I totally forgot where I
started!

I actually reformatted and repartitioned the hard drive
that I
have
since
decided was dead and Windows XP Pro did EXACTLY the same
thing
that
it is
doing now. I just figured my HD was totally unusable, so
I
bought
the new
one.

I am going to play around with the Memory sticks too.
Seems
like
that is
a
common issue in the postings on the www.

MS also mentions a hotfix for usbhub.sys, which they think
is
one
of
the
causes for this mess. I don't have the faintest idea as
to how
to
use a
hotfix. Any suggestions that a Novice would understand?

Last night, I also found a basic CD-ROM drive that I had
replaced
with a
DVD-ROM a while back so I dug it out of the box. I
connected
the
IDE
cable
to only that drive (the IDE was originally attached to a
master
and
slave.
I
thought that maybe trying to install the OS that way would
be
optimal.
When
I went through the whole song and dance routine again, it
still
crashed,
but
seemed to go a nanosecond longer than the previous times.



"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am replacing a dead hard drive. When installing
Windows XP
Pro
it
crashes
EVERY time at 34 minutes remaining... I tried the
suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have
tried
everything
that I
could find on the internet as well.

Windows XP Pro (not bootleg)
Intel Pentium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

I am sort of a Novice at computers and the lingo, so
please
excuse
my
layman's approach to this!
Data Lifeguard Tools Software included/loaded

Thanks for all of the helpful info. I found a place that will check the
motherboard and won't charge me if it is not the culprit.

I am going to look into another barebones system as you indicated. That
sounds better that further blood, sweat and tears over this one!

"S. Taylor" wrote:

It's not the OS.
No OS should crash during installation on a clean system, unless there are
hardware problems.
I'm certain it's the motherboard and buying another OS won't fix the
problem,
and your only other OS choices either ain't for novices(Unix, etc.) or
require a specialized
computer (I.E. a Mac ).
You can take the motherboard into to a repair shop and ask them to test it,
if you want
to make sure it's the culprit (I believe it is).
Call around to the various computer stores and get quotes on a new
motherboard that is
compatable with the memory chips and P4 that you already have (should cost
less then $100).
If anyone has any, I'd personally suggest you stay away from motherboards
with an ALI or VIA chipset, and it'll probably cost less then buying a new
OS and getting stuck with the XP OS and
never using it.

If they have one compatable with your proccessor, then you save alot of
money
by switching to an AMD processor.
Most computer stores also offer barebones systems for a low price, and
include
a tower case, power supply, motherboard, memory, and cpu.
In my area I could get a barebones system for $180 - $250
Or I could get a separate motherboard, AMD cpu & 512mb ram for about $230.
And since I live in a state with a higher cost of living then Oregon, you
could probably
find slightly better prices locally



"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
GoldMemory did not find any problems when I ran it.

I guess that this is a lost cause and I will have to give up on XP Pro and
purchase another OS. At least that way I can narrow it down to the OS vs.
everything else!

Thanks for all of your help.

"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Unfortunately for me, the people I know all have laptops.

I will let you know if I can get the GoldMemory test to shed any light on
this.

"S. Taylor" wrote:

That leaves only the video card and the motherboard.
Do you have a spare? or know someone you can borrow one from?


"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
I checked my memory over the weekend with memtest86 and it indicated
no
problems. I will try the GoldMemory test since that also checks out
conflicts involving the motherboard and memory.

The disk is clean as a whistle. No scratches and I cleaned it
thoroughly.

I am trying to get my paws on an old version of Windows thinking ƒ£ùö
perhaps I can upgrade to XP Pro if that installs o. Nobody seems to
have
one laying around.

Taylor" wrote:

†…øÍ�íþas a point you need to rule out your memory chips as
the culprit.
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Windows Memory Diagnostic tool.
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program to have it reate i¹¨íþartup disk.
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trial)
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incompatabilities
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the 2nd
IDE channel
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to
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errors and physical damage on the hdd?

Abd did you check the XP CD for physical damage, scratches, cracks,
smudges,
dirt, etc. ?




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I am
stumped!

"neil" wrote:

Hmm, not sure now. Are you sure the CD is ok, there aren't any
scratches
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Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote in
message
...
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do
know that 17+17=34. I imagine the install is at about 17%
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much
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"Traci in PDX" wrote:

Yes, CD-ROM and HD each set as master. CD-ROM only thing on
it's
own
8!úöX�íþ—íþH–íþŠçùöÐÛðþ¸˜íþly thing on it's own IDE cable. HD Ide able
¹¨íþ Blue end
plugged
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not
boot
at
all, but I will play musical memory again tonight when I get
home.
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Traci

¹¨íþ "neil" wrote:

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master on
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sticks and
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rem
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stick.
Neil

"Traci in PDX" wrote
in
message
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"Windows XP Pro Install Crash at 34 Min" wrote:

I am re8!úö(§íþ¥õùöÐÛðþˆ¤íþing
4þŽødows XP
N Pro
it˜²˜ crashe EVERY time at 34 minuú……øþŽíþø¬íþþŽíþ I tried the
suggestions
listed in
the
support section of this MS site and nothing. I have
tried
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could find on ?he internet as well.

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In†…øþŽíþium 4 Processor; 1.80GHz
MV85010A.86A.0038.P15.0207241616
512MB System RAM
Western Digital EIDE Hard Drive
80GB, 7200RPM

Your welcome and good luck

"Traci in PDX" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all of the helpful info. I found a place that will check the
motherboard and won't charge me if it is not the culprit.

I am going to look into another barebones system as you indicated. That
sounds better that further blood, sweat and tears over this one!

What is it that John Cleese says as the headmaster in Clockwise: "It's
not the despair.... I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't
stand"

You may have reached this point by now, but if you want to try one last
thing...

Though there are clearly a range of problems that cause the thirty-four
minute disaster .. one of the causes seems to be the computer running
out of resources, especially on mainboards that have lots of on-board
extras such as audio and video (rather than these being provided by
separate add-on cards). The lack of resources can be compounded by the
computer "doubling up" and attempting to load both standard drivers and
proprietary drivers eg both standard ide controllers and SiS ide
controller drivers. Anyway, the point is, a possible work-around that I
have used successfully on these occasions is to get hold of an earlier
version of XP and switch to that CD briefly when the system reboots to
have another go at installing. You can switch back to your own CD after
the 34 minute crisis has passed. All I can say is that it has worked
for me - perhaps because the earlier XP version does not attempt to
provide the proprietary drivers (!?). Good luck if you decide to give
it a try.

Just to be clear - in my own case I switched from using XP with service
pack 1 to a pre-service pack 1 version of XP. How applicable this is to
your situation I don't know, but it did appear that you had built-in
sound. I don't think you mentioned a make of motherboard - the problem
sometimes affects "no-name" motherboards that use SiS drivers.

But I do understand that sometimes it can be a relief to say "That's
it! Enough!"

Best wishes, Omeganut.

Hi,

I am also facing the same problem ..windows xp crashes at 34 or 35 min
durning installation on my IBM LAPTOP...

Windows ME IS WORKING FINE...

If you have found the solution to your problems, please also mail the
solution
at my email address

I have an ASUS P4PE MOBO (broadband and sound on MOBO), 1 gig of memory and an ATI 8500DV graphics card.

I have the same problem as the others.

Using an IDENTICAL configuration, Windows 2000 installs perfectly, but on a clean XP install as soon as it hits that 34 minute mark my screen goes blank for 2 seconds, returns and in about 2 seconds the little green progress marker stops and my machine freezes solid. (I have tried using the original XP install disk as well as a disk slipstreamed with SP2).

I've checked memory, pulled out all my USB devices, pulled my external USR modem, and the problem continues.

Funny thing, in the Award BIOS there are two settings that have never "appeared"... Under "Advanced", the manual shows 3 sub-settings -- Chip Configuration, I/O Device Configuration and PCI Configuration. The latter two subsettings do not appear. I don't think that's the problem with installing the OS, but it bugs me.

The graphics card is "suspicious" to me -- but it is supposedly compatible with Windows XP.

The fellow that built my system has left me "high and dry" -- just telling me to go looking on the net for a solution. He more or less wants a BLANK CHEQUE to do any work.

I have never been so frustrated in my life because I am disabled and it's going to likely cost me $200-$300 to get somebody in to TRY and diagnose the problem.

I am thinking about "starting over" with an ASUS P4P800-E DELUXE MOBO.