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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean "Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32 applications." So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro. This is getting weird. Lynn |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean" http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...er_Windows_var iant_Windows_10_Lean "Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32 applications." So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro. This is getting weird. If it's significantly cheaper than current editions, I'm game to try it. If I need anything that's missing, I can always trying copying it over from my Home install. -- - Look, I'm not trying to be mean. - You're just naturally good at it? - Basically, yes. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean" http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean "Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32 applications." So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro.Â* This is getting weird. Lynn Not weird...the nature of the OEM market - selling limited storage devices with a higher margin($) return - i.e. for OEM low cost devices(tablets/laptops/slates) with 'less storage' 16GB or less is the current 'rumor'. Basically a device with the capacity/circuitry of a small USB stick. 'Lean' is being developed under the Redstone 5 platform(not the next version - Redstone 4[aka 1803] soon to be released to the public) The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:
The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. How much smaller is lean from regular windows? |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote:
On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote: The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On 2018/04/26, mechanic wrote:
It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Thank you. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote: On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote: The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On 4/27/2018 11:35 AM, a.m wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote: On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote: The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. Don't the minimal devices come with 16 GB of "disk" space nowadays ? Lynn |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On 4/25/2018 1:49 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean" http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean "Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32 applications." So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro.Â* This is getting weird. Lynn It looks like Windows Lean will be renamed Windows S and gaining Win32 API capabilities. Lynn |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean" http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean "Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32 applications." Missing the registry editor is no surprise. Microsoft has royally messed up registry entries, specifically to do with the appearance of Windows. I would not be surprised if dumping the registry is the direction Microsoft's main focus goes. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
"a.m" wrote in message
... On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for running DOS. I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running in a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no space left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the space, but it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
"a.m" wrote in message ...
Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. Today, Win95 as a base reference 23 yrs later is a pipe dream. No more than 2GB installed ? Easy...Windows 'Click to Run' approach - Install minimal and pull down from the cloud to RAM as needed. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On 04/27/2018 01:59 PM, NY wrote:
[snip] My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for running DOS. I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running in a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no space left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the space, but it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive. I had a 386SX with 30MB hard drive. The drive controller had a problem that made it incompatible with protected mode. BTW, Windows (3.1) used the save file system as DOS, so my old backup batch file worked, to backup everything to 10 1.44MB floppies. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "A computer without Microsoft Windows is like chocolate cake without the mustard." |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:53:03 -0400, Wolf K
wrote: On 2018-04-27 12:35, a.m wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote: On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote: The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a reality. How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. I think figuring out how to reduce the bloat is just not worth it from MS's POV. Would cost too much time and money. Probably not, but there truly is no reason for an operating system to take the GBs that they currently do. Even Linux shouldn't be as large post-installation as it is even though it's way smaller than Windows is. I imagine that some of the bundled libraries take up space though. |
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"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:59:08 +0100, "NY" wrote:
"a.m" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic How much smaller is lean from regular windows? It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space. Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete today. My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for running DOS. Mine had a whopping 30MB: the IBM PS/1 Model 2011 (286 running at 10MHz). I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running in a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no space left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the space, but it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive. Did the same. I remember Windows 3 actually running fairly well. I never tried 3.1 on the machine but I imagine that it wasn't all that bad. |
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