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Suggestions please.
Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. |
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On 02 Jun 2018, freenewser wrote in
alt.windows7.general: Suggestions please. Want to get away from Mozilla. You should get away from nymshifting and multiposting. |
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| | Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro | | FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! | I use FF and Pale Moon on XP. I've never had any problems with CPU load. The problem is not FF. Tips: * Don't leave a large number of tabs/windows open. That's basic housekeeping. If you won't need to go back to that page then don't leave it open. I'm amazd at how many people think they have some kind of right to be slobs, with 50+ sites open, and then get angry because the browser can't handle it. * If you allow script then install NoScript and get used to it. Many sites now are basically software programs written in javascript, and often bigger than some of the software on your computer. Most of that script is intrusive, risky and unnecessary. A few years ago, 100KB+ was too big. These days 2-6 MB is not unusual. And often that can involve auto-starting video.... So don't allow auto-starting video! In about:config, set Network.prefetch-next to False. That will stop FF performing the idiotic task of preloading webpages *in case* you decide to visit them. It's wastful and a privacy problem. The only advantage is that it can sometimes make FF seem fast because if you decide to click on a link, FF may have already loaded that page! Also set network.predictor.enabled to false. Also set Accessibility.blockautorefresh to True, especially if you're leaving tabs/windows open. That means sites won't keep reloading the page without you asking. It has the added advantage that you don't suddenly lose what you're reading. FF will show a bar at the top giving you the option to reload. Don't allow video at all unless you really want it. By all means, don't allow Flash. Beyond that, you can get more extreme if you want to be safer, more private, and faster. For most sites I block 3rd-party images by using Pale Moon and setting Permissions.default.image to 3. I also block Google's font server in HOSTS, for privacy, security and efficiency. If you let commercial websites do as they like and you leave lots of windows open then any browser will be slow. But it's not hard to keep it lean. I find nearly all sites load almost instantly, in PM or FF, and I never notice and strain on either CPU or RAM. There's simply no excuse for CPU load because no page should be running anything after it's loaded. But it's up to you to make sure they're not. |
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freenewser wrote:
Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. Off By One Browser. Lightweight and works fine, but I bet you won't be happy with it. -- I cannot help it! You are like a miniature prophet of doom. |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 16:27:36 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: | Suggestions please. | | Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro | | FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! | I use FF and Pale Moon on XP. I've never had any problems with CPU load. The problem is not FF. Tips: * Don't leave a large number of tabs/windows open. That's basic housekeeping. If you won't need to go back to that page then don't leave it open. I'm amazd at how many people think they have some kind of right to be slobs, with 50+ sites open, and then get angry because the browser can't handle it. * If you allow script then install NoScript and get used to it. Many sites now are basically software programs written in javascript, and often bigger than some of the software on your computer. Most of that script is intrusive, risky and unnecessary. A few years ago, 100KB+ was too big. These days 2-6 MB is not unusual. And often that can involve auto-starting video.... So don't allow auto-starting video! In about:config, set Network.prefetch-next to False. That will stop FF performing the idiotic task of preloading webpages *in case* you decide to visit them. It's wastful and a privacy problem. The only advantage is that it can sometimes make FF seem fast because if you decide to click on a link, FF may have already loaded that page! Also set network.predictor.enabled to false. Also set Accessibility.blockautorefresh to True, especially if you're leaving tabs/windows open. That means sites won't keep reloading the page without you asking. It has the added advantage that you don't suddenly lose what you're reading. FF will show a bar at the top giving you the option to reload. Don't allow video at all unless you really want it. By all means, don't allow Flash. Beyond that, you can get more extreme if you want to be safer, more private, and faster. For most sites I block 3rd-party images by using Pale Moon and setting Permissions.default.image to 3. I also block Google's font server in HOSTS, for privacy, security and efficiency. If you let commercial websites do as they like and you leave lots of windows open then any browser will be slow. But it's not hard to keep it lean. I find nearly all sites load almost instantly, in PM or FF, and I never notice and strain on either CPU or RAM. There's simply no excuse for CPU load because no page should be running anything after it's loaded. But it's up to you to make sure they're not. More he https://gist.github.com/0XDE57/fbd302cef7693e62c769 I don't have "network.predictor.enabled" in my Palemoon. Do I assume it's not active or should I add it and set it to "false" ? []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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writes: On 02 Jun 2018, freenewser wrote in alt.windows7.general: Suggestions please. A hyphen wouldn't go astray; without one, I'm wondering how the speed of light has any bearing on how you can browse your weights. Want to get away from Mozilla. I second Auric's suggestion of Off By One - and his suggestion that you won't like it! You should get away from nymshifting and multiposting. What are some of his others, if he _is_ a nymshifter? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Flobalob" actually means "Flowerpot" in Oddle-Poddle. |
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On 06/02/2018 12:49 PM, freenewser wrote:
Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ?Â* Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. Something is wrong with your firefox. Until you figure it out, try: http://brave.com It is my second browser after firefox. Nice and preppy! |
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"Shadow" wrote
| I don't have "network.predictor.enabled" in my Palemoon. | Do I assume it's not active or should I add it and set it to | "false" ? I don't see it in mine, either. But it's not new. I just added it for good measure. There are a number of settings that don't exist unless added. |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:49:00 -0700, freenewser
wrote: Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. Lynx. It was good enough in 1992; it should be good enough now. https://www.google.com/search?q=lynx+browser -- Char Jackson |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:49:00 -0700, freenewser wrote: Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. Lynx. It was good enough in 1992; it should be good enough now. https://www.google.com/search?q=lynx+browser That's what I used at work, because they wouldn't give us a browser. I spent approximately 40 hours compiling a browser from source (had to build all the libraries it needed, first). The IT department kept a log of all downloads, and they spotted my source download. And they sent out a message to "destroy all copies". Leaving us with Lynx. You don't really surf with Lynx. It's main claim to fame is allowing you to download stuff (like maybe a PDF file on a site). There is a piece of software that was given a similar name, like "links", which is apparently another one of those text-only browsers. It's only 19 years old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_%28web_browser%29 Paul |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:49:00 -0700, freenewser
wrote: Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. You could try Maxthon. But I've not discovered how to run NoScript with Maxthon, so I usually use an older version of Firefox, v41, which isn't so bloated. -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 20:11:27 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
"Shadow" wrote | I don't have "network.predictor.enabled" in my Palemoon. | Do I assume it's not active or should I add it and set it to | "false" ? I don't see it in mine, either. But it's not new. I just added it for good measure. There are a number of settings that don't exist unless added. Using PM 27.9.2. "network.predictor.enabled" is there and not bold, so I assume that it's standard - if it's not, I haven't added it myself but some add-on might have done. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:49:00 -0700, freenewser wrote:
Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. You don't have Edge on Windows 7? Dark ages or what! |
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"PeterC" wrote
| Using PM 27.9.2. "network.predictor.enabled" is there and not bold, so I | assume that it's standard Sounds like it. I'm using v. 24, the last for XP. Mine seems to date from 2014. (I keep thinking of switching to SeaMonkey, which still has an XP version, but never quite get around to trying it.) The links I found relating to the setting date from 2015 and mentioned that it had been "set to default to true again". Apparently it had been called "seer", they changed the name, then set it to run. I don't remember the seer setting or whether that defaulted to true. Either way, as you may already know, the setting causes pages to load if you just hover over the link. So it's not so much "predictor" as "network.halfwit.over-reactor". I think of these kinds of settings as sleazy attempts to hide incompetence. Like the MS Office, Firefox and Libre Office pre-loaders. Instead of putting an effort into making the program lean they make it even more bloated in order to make it *appear* more lean: The program seems to start up fast because it's already running. The pages seem to load fast because they're already loaded. In this case it also adds a whole new dimension to privacy and security issues. People end up visiting numerous sites they never knew they visited. |
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 12:00:15 +0100, mechanic
wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:49:00 -0700, freenewser wrote: Suggestions please. Need for Win XP Pro and Win 7 Pro FireFox keeps stealing 50% of my CPU !!! What about Vivaldi ? Others ? Want to get away from Mozilla. You don't have Edge on Windows 7? Dark ages or what! Edge works great to download a proper browser. -- Char Jackson |
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