Sending a word file via email, etc.

My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right? And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

I do have .emi (meaning a Thunderbird document) set for Thunderbird.
There also seems to be related .wdseml files but I don't know what
that is and I have that set for antthing.

3) Since I'm on the subject, I'll mention that when I click F1 for an
old program that doesn't have a win10 compatible help file, I get a
message in Edge, or maybe Windows Explorer. That's annoying, but I
understand that MS favors MS programs. But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS? And any way to make it give me the No
Help File message in Firefox, which is my default and is running
already?

4) And finally, why did they stop putting the name of the program you're
in in the upper left corner of the screen? It is so annoying to get on
my brother's computer by Team Viewer and not know what programs he's
using. They move Help/About too, so I can't find out that way. What's
wrong with those people? Even on my own computer, when some webbrowser
stawrts on its own, I don't know which one it is!





(Related note for myself, not directly related to the question
http://priede.bf.lu.lv/ftp/pub/Inter.../cmndline.html )

On Tue, 12 May 2020 14:45:06 -0400, micky wrote:

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

This does not use mailto:, it uses MAPI.
What mailto: is set for is not relevant to this case. This case depends
on what MAPI is set for.


But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS?

MAPI is set to use Thunderbird.


--
Kind regards
Ralph

On 5/12/20 2:45 PM, this is what micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right? And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

I do have .emi (meaning a Thunderbird document) set for Thunderbird.
There also seems to be related .wdseml files but I don't know what
that is and I have that set for antthing.

3) Since I'm on the subject, I'll mention that when I click F1 for an
old program that doesn't have a win10 compatible help file, I get a
message in Edge, or maybe Windows Explorer. That's annoying, but I
understand that MS favors MS programs. But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS? And any way to make it give me the No
Help File message in Firefox, which is my default and is running
already?

4) And finally, why did they stop putting the name of the program you're
in in the upper left corner of the screen? It is so annoying to get on
my brother's computer by Team Viewer and not know what programs he's
using. They move Help/About too, so I can't find out that way. What's
wrong with those people? Even on my own computer, when some webbrowser
stawrts on its own, I don't know which one it is!





(Related note for myself, not directly related to the question
http://priede.bf.lu.lv/ftp/pub/Inter.../cmndline.html )

Have him save the file on his computer, and know where it is, like Documents.

Open his browser gmail email program. Start compose and add the receipient(s), subject.

Down on the bottom of the window there are icons. After the SEND button, the "A" then the paperclip. That's the attach icon. It may not
look like a paperclip and don't confuse it with the link icon. Hover the mouse it will say attach files.

When he clicks on it, it will open explorer on his machine to locate the file. Select the file and click the okay or whatever button. I
forgot to go that far.

It shouldn't be that hard to know what to pick in the lower right corner.

On 5/12/2020 2:45 PM, micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right? And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

I do have .emi (meaning a Thunderbird document) set for Thunderbird.
There also seems to be related .wdseml files but I don't know what
that is and I have that set for antthing.

3) Since I'm on the subject, I'll mention that when I click F1 for an
old program that doesn't have a win10 compatible help file, I get a
message in Edge, or maybe Windows Explorer. That's annoying, but I
understand that MS favors MS programs. But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS? And any way to make it give me the No
Help File message in Firefox, which is my default and is running
already?

4) And finally, why did they stop putting the name of the program you're
in in the upper left corner of the screen? It is so annoying to get on
my brother's computer by Team Viewer and not know what programs he's
using. They move Help/About too, so I can't find out that way. What's
wrong with those people? Even on my own computer, when some webbrowser
stawrts on its own, I don't know which one it is!





(Related note for myself, not directly related to the question
http://priede.bf.lu.lv/ftp/pub/Inter.../cmndline.html )

I have routinely attached MS word files (DOC,DOCX,etc) and Word Perfect
files to emails, and they have been received intact, with all special
characters, and formatting intact. I have received the same types of
files from several other email programs including web mail like gmail
with no degradation of the file.

I am using Thunderbird, but have sent and received files using gmail also.

I can write the document in WordPerfect, (I assume MS Word has something
similar) Go to to FILE, Send To, and select Mail Recipient; and it will
go to the default email program (Thunderbird in my case). It appears in
Thunderbird as an attachment and it is sent like any other email with an
attachment.

You can send files from Adobe Reader, Irfanview, etc. using a similar
routine.

"micky" wrote

| I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
| send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.
|

You can send from Word, in which case the recipient
gets an HTML email full of nonsense HTML that probably
won't look right except in Outlook.

You can also just attach a DOC or DOCX, like you would
any other file.

Or you can be civilized and send plain text. It drives me
crazy when people send me a DOC or DOCX just to send
2 paragraphs of text. Then I have to fire up Libre Office,
take out the text, paste it into Notepad, save it, and
delete the ridiculously bloated DOC(X) file.
If it's supposed to be lawyer's stationery then save it to
PDF. If it's text then send text. The only reason to ever
send DOC(X) would be some kind of school paper or essay
that's being sent for editing.

On 12/05/2020 19:45, micky mouse idiot ****erÂ* wrote:

I just said No,

We don't expect you to say anything else because of your low intelligence.



But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right?
Correct.Â* We know from our ESP that he is as stupid as you are.

How does that happen?


I guess some external super natural powers are coming to your aid.Â* You
are a superstitious person believing in African witchcraft, religion and
magic, right?


rest of the crap snipped as it was too boring to read it


--
With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

he uses gmail from a webbrowser,

So, since he has a google account, he could use google docs as his word
processor and it has a 'send as email attachment' function. One step.

Otherwise, if he prefers to use some other word processor, then he could
save the file and use gmail webmail to attach it to an email. Two steps.




--
Mike Easter

On 5/12/2020 5:01 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"micky" wrote

| I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
| send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.
|

You can send from Word, in which case the recipient
gets an HTML email full of nonsense HTML that probably
won't look right except in Outlook.

You can also just attach a DOC or DOCX, like you would
any other file.

Or you can be civilized and send plain text. It drives me
crazy when people send me a DOC or DOCX just to send
2 paragraphs of text. Then I have to fire up Libre Office,
take out the text, paste it into Notepad, save it, and
delete the ridiculously bloated DOC(X) file.
If it's supposed to be lawyer's stationery then save it to
PDF. If it's text then send text. The only reason to ever
send DOC(X) would be some kind of school paper or essay
that's being sent for editing.



OR to collaborate on the creation of documents, and similar activities.

micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right? And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

I do have .emi (meaning a Thunderbird document) set for Thunderbird.
There also seems to be related .wdseml files but I don't know what
that is and I have that set for antthing.

3) Since I'm on the subject, I'll mention that when I click F1 for an
old program that doesn't have a win10 compatible help file, I get a
message in Edge, or maybe Windows Explorer. That's annoying, but I
understand that MS favors MS programs. But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS? And any way to make it give me the No
Help File message in Firefox, which is my default and is running
already?

4) And finally, why did they stop putting the name of the program you're
in in the upper left corner of the screen? It is so annoying to get on
my brother's computer by Team Viewer and not know what programs he's
using. They move Help/About too, so I can't find out that way. What's
wrong with those people? Even on my own computer, when some webbrowser
stawrts on its own, I don't know which one it is!

You may be making it more difficult than it needs to be.
I always just drag the *.doc / *.docx to what ever email program I
happen to be using at the time, add address, and hit send.
I don't use word's built in send to.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 13 May 2020 07:00:18 +1200, Ralph Fox
wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2020 14:45:06 -0400, micky wrote:

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

This does not use mailto:, it uses MAPI.
What mailto: is set for is not relevant to this case. This case depends
on what MAPI is set for.


But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS?

MAPI is set to use Thunderbird.

Thanks. And it turns out you can even get it to call gmail, with a 3rd
party program.

Affixa
Mapi4gmail
tbhmapigmail (or something like that. I have the 3 initials wrong and
probably have the rest in the wrong order.

I'm going to test it bfore installing on my brother's machine, and
Affixa sounded good.

On 12 May 2020, micky wrote
(in ):

My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

yes.

1 save it to disk

2 attach the saved file to an email in the mail client of your choice,
including webmail.


I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

use Word’s built in system if you have an actual email app, such as Windows
Mail, Apple Mail, Thunderbird or Outlook. Word prefers Outlook.


That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right?

nope.
And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

it’s a lot easier to just attach the file.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 May 2020 14:36:23 -0700, Mike
Easter wrote:

micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

he uses gmail from a webbrowser,

So, since he has a google account, he could use google docs as his word

Thanks for the suggestion but this is my brother. He could do lots of
things but he's 80 years old, doesn't like computers, and he wants to do
what I'm trying to enable him to do.

processor and it has a 'send as email attachment' function. One step.

Otherwise, if he prefers to use some other word processor, then he could
save the file and use gmail webmail to attach it to an email. Two steps.

Not the way I've been counting. Switch to browswer, open new tab, open
gmail.com, start email, click on paper clip, navigate to desired
attachment. 5 or 6 steps. If Affixa works, I'll soon know how many
steps that is but I expect it's one or two.

But still, thanks.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 May 2020 16:02:27 -0400, Big Al
wrote:

On 5/12/20 2:45 PM, this is what micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

I just said No, but later I looked at Word 2007 and it has options to
send as email, email pdf, email xps, internet Fax?, and to bluetooth.

That's cool.

But though this might work for me, since he uses gmail from a
webbrowser, it won't work for him, right? And it would have been much
harder to write for that situation, right? IIUC, there is no way to
pass a parameter, like the file name, to a particular webpage
(gmail.com) to be used in a particular way like as an attachment. Is
that right?

2) Worth noting that when I tried this, it started an email in
Thurderbird, even though under Choose Default Apps by Protocol, I have
mailto: set for Eudora. And this works fine, goes to Eudora, when
clicking on an email address in Firefox. And I have nothing there set
for Thunderbird. How does that happen?

I do have .emi (meaning a Thunderbird document) set for Thunderbird.
There also seems to be related .wdseml files but I don't know what
that is and I have that set for antthing.

3) Since I'm on the subject, I'll mention that when I click F1 for an
old program that doesn't have a win10 compatible help file, I get a
message in Edge, or maybe Windows Explorer. That's annoying, but I
understand that MS favors MS programs. But why, above, does it favor
Thunderbird which is not MS? And any way to make it give me the No
Help File message in Firefox, which is my default and is running
already?

4) And finally, why did they stop putting the name of the program you're
in in the upper left corner of the screen? It is so annoying to get on
my brother's computer by Team Viewer and not know what programs he's
using. They move Help/About too, so I can't find out that way. What's
wrong with those people? Even on my own computer, when some webbrowser
stawrts on its own, I don't know which one it is!





(Related note for myself, not directly related to the question
http://priede.bf.lu.lv/ftp/pub/Inter.../cmndline.html )

Have him save the file on his computer, and know where it is, like Documents.

Open his browser gmail email program. Start compose and add the receipient(s), subject.

Down on the bottom of the window there are icons. After the SEND button, the "A" then the paperclip. That's the attach icon. It may not
look like a paperclip and don't confuse it with the link icon. Hover the mouse it will say attach files.

When he clicks on it, it will open explorer on his machine to locate the file. Select the file and click the okay or whatever button. I
forgot to go that far.

It shouldn't be that hard to know what to pick in the lower right corner.

I'm sorry. I should have made clear that that's what we did. But he
thought there should be a way to send the email straight from the word
processor. After we hung up, I was surprised to see that there was,
and it works with any MAPI-compliant program. Which gmail normally
isn't but there are work-arounds that the 3 programs I replied to Ralph
about.

I haven't had time to test anhy of them yet, but I'm pretty sure they
work.

I'll set him up for gmail and me up for Eudora.

On 5/12/2020 2:45 PM, micky wrote:
When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?
It seems the easiest and obvious way to help him is to have him install
one of the free email programs like Thunderbird.

This would be a one time setup, which with Thunderbird is quite easy.
Once the email program was installed, All he would have to do is click
the send to mail client or equivalent in the word processor. When the
message compose window opens he would add the person to receive the
message, and click send. 3 steps. In Word Perfect an icon can be
placed on the main tool bar for the Send to email client, so click the
icon is one step. When the compose window comes up the 2nd step would
be to add the receivers address, and the 3rd step would be to click
send.

He may need some help installing Thunderbird, but is usually automatic
with some tweaks to the ISP parameters. His gmail address book can be
imported into Thunderbird, again with some help. With an hour visit
you could have him up and running. I probably could do it through the
phone.

He could continue using the gmail web page, or convert completely to the
email program. Again even for sending and receiving email the email
program would be simplest. To review his email he clicks the email icon
which you could put on his tool bar. Read his new mail and send or
answer email in one or two clicks.

Unless he is sending some complex formatted documents, the compose
windows of the email programs are more than equivalent to the word
processors of 20 years ago.

Using Thunderbird as an example, you can make the text bold, underline,
or italics. You can change the fonts in your email and indent lines.
You can quite in the out line format.

You can save your incoming emails in folders just like you do in gmail.
Additionally you can save them to the disk as PDF, or other formats.

On 13/05/2020 12:39, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 12 May 2020 14:36:23 -0700, Mike
Easter wrote:

micky wrote:
My brother asked me this question.

When you've written something in Word or some other word processor, is
there a one- or two-step way to email it to someone?

he uses gmail from a webbrowser,

So, since he has a google account, he could use google docs as his word

Thanks for the suggestion but this is my brother. He could do lots of
things but he's 80 years old, doesn't like computers, and he wants to do
what I'm trying to enable him to do.

processor and it has a 'send as email attachment' function. One step.

Otherwise, if he prefers to use some other word processor, then he could
save the file and use gmail webmail to attach it to an email. Two steps.

Not the way I've been counting. Switch to browswer, open new tab, open
gmail.com, start email, click on paper clip, navigate to desired
attachment. 5 or 6 steps. If Affixa works, I'll soon know how many
steps that is but I expect it's one or two.

Assuming you're already signed into google. Open/create your google doc
in the browser and select File - Email as Attachement. That's it.

But still, thanks.