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September 15th 06, 06:39 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz
and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx 
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September 15th 06, 06:52 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
The P4 has a bigger cache and should do more in the same
time [faster]. Also, the P4 will run the mobo frontside bus at a higher clock rate, which speeds up data transfer rates "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... |I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz | and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz | | same socket, same microns.... | | whis is faster and how much faster? | | I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? | | Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? | | I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet | stuff... | | thanx | |
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September 15th 06, 07:18 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
"John Jay Smith" - wrote in message
... I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx Kind of interesting that you do a lot of posting in the vista.general newsgroup trashing on it, yet you want to know what hardware will make it run the best for you. I would think asking this question in a hardware newsgroup would be the better forum. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]
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September 15th 06, 07:46 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
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I was thinking the same thing! -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Rock" wrote in message ... "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx Kind of interesting that you do a lot of posting in the vista.general newsgroup trashing on it, yet you want to know what hardware will make it run the best for you. I would think asking this question in a hardware newsgroup would be the better forum. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]
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September 15th 06, 01:37 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
You've heard of benchmarks?
John Jay Smith wrote: I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx
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#6
September 15th 06, 01:42 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
John Jay Smith wrote:
Oh no you have not understood.... Not only will I use vista, but I will teach it to, well lets say a loooootttttt of people... However, I still think it could be better. Newsgroups are for people to say their opinion freely... not worship Microsoft. I like Microsoft... but I am not afraid to talk about vistas problems.. Do you have a problem with this? You want people to not speak? If you were a moderator would you delete my posts? Do you have a small black moustache that does not go beyond your nostrils and a funny greasy hair cut? Its better to hear it first from me, since you will hear it again from thousands of people... Im doing you a favor by conditioning you. Getting you ready for the slaughter... I am amazed that YOU cannot find anything wrong with it and you are not agreeing with me :-) Join with the dark side and lets trash it together! ;-) Wait a minute! I m with the good guys... Vista is the one with the black shiny outfit, dark and sinister! :-) Um, Vista is not in its final version yet so aren't you being a tad premature? Alias
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#7
September 15th 06, 03:25 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
"John Jay Smith" - wrote in
: Oh no you have not understood.... Not only will I use vista, but I will teach it to, well lets say a loooootttttt of people... However, I still think it could be better. Newsgroups are for people to say their opinion freely... not worship Microsoft. I like Microsoft... but I am not afraid to talk about vistas problems.. Do you have a problem with this? You want people to not speak? If you were a moderator would you delete my posts? Do you have a small black moustache that does not go beyond your nostrils and a funny greasy hair cut? Its better to hear it first from me, since you will hear it again from thousands of people... Im doing you a favor by conditioning you. Getting you ready for the slaughter... I am amazed that YOU cannot find anything wrong with it and you are not agreeing with me :-) Join with the dark side and lets trash it together! ;-) Wait a minute! I m with the good guys... Vista is the one with the black shiny outfit, dark and sinister! :-) (I think I see a little over-reaction.) Vista will be as successful as Windows Millenium, and in many ways appears to have shades of Microsoft Bob !!!! (if you remeber that one). Many of the 'revolutionary' technologies have been dumped, like WinFS. It main offering is nothing more than a new Theme....AeroGlass. Many people I know while intrigued by the current Windows animations at first, like fading menu's, soon turn off all of that because in a very short time, it becomes very annoying. With reference to the fading menu's.....I'm looking for a way's to speed my computer up, not slow it down. Waiting for the menu to fade in is a waste of time. Sure it only takes half a second, but those half-seconds really add up. Regards, DanS
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#8
September 15th 06, 04:33 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
Why reinvent the wheel. Go look and read what the hardware reviewers
have already done. Heck they may have that combo tested in the same review. John Jay Smith wrote: yeah...... I have used some simple benchmarks but this would need something more complex. Do you know of a good free one to suggest that will test not only the cpu speed but also compare the advantage of the cache and faster FSB that one has with the other? "Bob I" wrote in message ... You've heard of benchmarks? John Jay Smith wrote: I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx
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#9
September 15th 06, 06:08 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
"John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... yeah...... I have used some simple benchmarks but this would need something more complex. Do you know of a good free one to suggest that will test not only the cpu speed but also compare the advantage of the cache and faster FSB that one has with the other? "Sandra" can benchmark and compare your hardware with different cpus and memory. In the past it was free to use. Do a search. mi
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#10
September 15th 06, 10:02 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
Oh no you have not understood....
Not only will I use vista, but I will teach it to, well lets say a loooootttttt of people... However, I still think it could be better. Newsgroups are for people to say their opinion freely... not worship Microsoft. I like Microsoft... but I am not afraid to talk about vistas problems.. Do you have a problem with this? You want people to not speak? If you were a moderator would you delete my posts? Do you have a small black moustache that does not go beyond your nostrils and a funny greasy hair cut? Its better to hear it first from me, since you will hear it again from thousands of people... Im doing you a favor by conditioning you. Getting you ready for the slaughter... I am amazed that YOU cannot find anything wrong with it and you are not agreeing with me :-) Join with the dark side and lets trash it together! ;-) Wait a minute! I m with the good guys... Vista is the one with the black shiny outfit, dark and sinister! :-) "Rock" wrote in message ... "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx Kind of interesting that you do a lot of posting in the vista.general newsgroup trashing on it, yet you want to know what hardware will make it run the best for you. I would think asking this question in a hardware newsgroup would be the better forum. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]
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#11
September 15th 06, 10:07 PM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
ah... vista will make it.. Im not worrying... it will create a lot of fuss
but it will be here to stay... Vista SP1 will be a few GBs download..... lol "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... (-: I was thinking the same thing! -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Rock" wrote in message ... "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx Kind of interesting that you do a lot of posting in the vista.general newsgroup trashing on it, yet you want to know what hardware will make it run the best for you. I would think asking this question in a hardware newsgroup would be the better forum. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]
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#12
September 16th 06, 03:08 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
"John Jay Smith" wrote
Oh no you have not understood.... Not only will I use vista, but I will teach it to, well lets say a loooootttttt of people... However, I still think it could be better. Newsgroups are for people to say their opinion freely... not worship Microsoft. I like Microsoft... but I am not afraid to talk about vistas problems.. Do you have a problem with this? You want people to not speak? If you were a moderator would you delete my posts? Do you have a small black moustache that does not go beyond your nostrils and a funny greasy hair cut? Its better to hear it first from me, since you will hear it again from thousands of people... Im doing you a favor by conditioning you. Getting you ready for the slaughter... I am amazed that YOU cannot find anything wrong with it and you are not agreeing with me :-) Join with the dark side and lets trash it together! ;-) Wait a minute! I m with the good guys... Vista is the one with the black shiny outfit, dark and sinister! :-) "Rock" wrote "John Jay Smith" wrote I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx Kind of interesting that you do a lot of posting in the vista.general newsgroup trashing on it, yet you want to know what hardware will make it run the best for you. I would think asking this question in a hardware newsgroup would be the better forum. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User] I just think it's funny you post all that trash talk, then slink in here to ask about what is the best way to run it. Why not ask in there? Anyway it makes no difference, I don't care why or what you decide to do. Have fun with it, and have the last word if you feel so inclined. -- Rock [MVP Windows Shell/User]
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September 16th 06, 06:06 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
loool....It seems that you understand the simple truth better than these
MVPs! Bravo! "DanS" wrote in message ... "John Jay Smith" - wrote in : Oh no you have not understood.... Not only will I use vista, but I will teach it to, well lets say a loooootttttt of people... However, I still think it could be better. Newsgroups are for people to say their opinion freely... not worship Microsoft. I like Microsoft... but I am not afraid to talk about vistas problems.. Do you have a problem with this? You want people to not speak? If you were a moderator would you delete my posts? Do you have a small black moustache that does not go beyond your nostrils and a funny greasy hair cut? Its better to hear it first from me, since you will hear it again from thousands of people... Im doing you a favor by conditioning you. Getting you ready for the slaughter... I am amazed that YOU cannot find anything wrong with it and you are not agreeing with me :-) Join with the dark side and lets trash it together! ;-) Wait a minute! I m with the good guys... Vista is the one with the black shiny outfit, dark and sinister! :-) (I think I see a little over-reaction.) Vista will be as successful as Windows Millenium, and in many ways appears to have shades of Microsoft Bob !!!! (if you remeber that one). Many of the 'revolutionary' technologies have been dumped, like WinFS. It main offering is nothing more than a new Theme....AeroGlass. Many people I know while intrigued by the current Windows animations at first, like fading menu's, soon turn off all of that because in a very short time, it becomes very annoying. With reference to the fading menu's.....I'm looking for a way's to speed my computer up, not slow it down. Waiting for the menu to fade in is a waste of time. Sure it only takes half a second, but those half-seconds really add up. Regards, DanS
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September 16th 06, 06:08 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
yeah......
I have used some simple benchmarks but this would need something more complex. Do you know of a good free one to suggest that will test not only the cpu speed but also compare the advantage of the cache and faster FSB that one has with the other? "Bob I" wrote in message ... You've heard of benchmarks? John Jay Smith wrote: I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz same socket, same microns.... whis is faster and how much faster? I am now using the celeron as my main pc... is it worth the swap? Also which one would be the best candidate for vista of the 2? I do lots of multitasking..not games.. mostly graphics, video, internet stuff... thanx
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September 16th 06, 07:53 AM
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Q? which CPU is faster and how much?
"John Jay Smith" - wrote:
I have a northwood celeron 2.6 ghz and a northwood Pentium 4 2.53 ghz The difference is near epsilon with such a small gap. Be aware that CPU speed becomes fairly irrelevant after about 2GHz in general these days. If you want to make Windows go faster, throw more money at your graphics card, consider moving to a faster hard drive (if you're on PATA, you'll definitely want to upgrade to a SATA-capable system), and ADD MORE RAM. You simply can't throw enough memory at Windows: It expands to fill all available resources over time. (Sometimes I wonder if it's like why Oregon probably won't ever build another freeway: Traffic expands to fill all available roadways, building more roads causes more traffic) -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk):
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