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On 02/21/2013 09:52 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 9:30 AM, John F. Morse wrote:
On 02/21/2013 08:51 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
John F. Morse typed:
On 02/19/2013 06:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:
Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and
isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat
respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I
have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text
and that is it.
That's what IM is, plain text.
Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.
Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though
Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support
for
Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues
That is Bill, the child molester.

Must have served out his latest sentence.
Oh really? If you are so sure, surely you would be willing to put your
money were your mouth is at. So how much would you care to lose?


I don't gamble, and you are the loser.

No John, where I come from it is called settling out of court.


I know you have been to "court" multiple times. You must enjoy it.


I see you are still doing your bragging, like you did about your daughter's
sleep-over friends who you fondled.

Really? That is amazing! Since I don't even have a daughter.


What did she do, flee?

I hope she isn't buried in your back yard.


Bugger-off, Bill. You are well-known, and should have stayed in Soledad a few
more years.

We don't have to settle this out of court if you don't want to. We can go to
court and you can enjoy a nice life behind bars if you like.



Court again? Get over it!

If you were stupid enough to bring yourself to the attention of law
enforcement, I'm sure you would be either captured (if you are an escapee), or
your parole revoked and put back in the slammer where you could molest your
fellow prisoners.

Come on -- make my day!

And don't forget that your attempts to hide your real name means I'm speaking
to an imaginary character. Do you think the courts would laugh if I was
brought before them for threatening Mickey Mouse?

How are you accessing the Internet, Bill? Are you on an evening or night
cleaning shift, and using the warden's computer? Maybe using one in the prison
library?

Or is some guard giving you a special privilege in return for the favors you
provide him?

I'm removing the cross-post to alt.cellular.verizon because I don't suspect
you to be more than a low-life, flaming, Win-droid troll, as you have proven
over the years in other newsgroups, such as alt.os.linux.ubuntu where you
continually bad-mouthed Linux.


--
John

When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already
rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?

On 02/21/2013 10:12 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 10:04 AM, charlie wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:30 PM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
I've been looking for a gasoline powered generator
How large a generator? What's expensive?
Harbor Freight has an 800w gas gen for $89.95
Large generators? Google Genrac. There are other lower cost generators
as well, with sources usually on the west coast.

Generally, a "conventional" generator uses the mass of the rotating
components, along with regulator(s) to stabilize the output. More
expensive units have a solid state "inverter" for more tightly
controlled output.

One drawback of the conventional generator has to do with the output
voltage level in an "idle" situation. The inverter types usually don't
have the lower voltage output associated with the idle condition.
My conventional 15KW ~22KW surge generator drops output voltage to
~90-100vac at idle, and immediately goes to normal output 123-125 vac
under load. Frequency control seems to be within 1 hz or so of 60 hz.

A good UPS with a voltage stabilizer capability can help with
"sensitive" equipment. Most of the current crop of desktops (with a
decent power supply) aren't to picky, and the UPS helps eliminate any
brownout that might be caused by a generator going into idle mode.

Curiously, what is the gas usage typically under load per hour?


It would depend on the load, and the specific fuel, doofus.

Gas? Gasoline, regular, unleaded, premium.

How about the other "gas" like natural gas, propane, butane, LPG?

What if it was a diesel generator?

And you brag about writing programs?

[Verizon crosspost removed. You sound more like an ignorant Win-droid than a
cell phone user.]

--
John

When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already
rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?

On 2/21/2013 10:31 AM, John F. Morse wrote:
On 02/21/2013 09:52 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 9:30 AM, John F. Morse wrote:
On 02/21/2013 08:51 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
John F. Morse typed:
On 02/19/2013 06:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:
Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and
isn't worth much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat
respectable is Skype, which I never used for Linux, but what I
have heard. Everything else for Linux is pretty much plain text
and that is it.
That's what IM is, plain text.
Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.
Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though
Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support
for
Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues
That is Bill, the child molester.

Must have served out his latest sentence.
Oh really? If you are so sure, surely you would be willing to put your
money were your mouth is at. So how much would you care to lose?


I don't gamble, and you are the loser.

No John, where I come from it is called settling out of court.


I know you have been to "court" multiple times. You must enjoy it.


I see you are still doing your bragging, like you did about your daughter's
sleep-over friends who you fondled.

Really? That is amazing! Since I don't even have a daughter.


What did she do, flee?

I hope she isn't buried in your back yard.


Bugger-off, Bill. You are well-known, and should have stayed in Soledad a few
more years.

We don't have to settle this out of court if you don't want to. We can go to
court and you can enjoy a nice life behind bars if you like.

Court again? Get over it!

If you were stupid enough to bring yourself to the attention of law
enforcement, I'm sure you would be either captured (if you are an escapee), or
your parole revoked and put back in the slammer where you could molest your
fellow prisoners.

Come on -- make my day!

You are a really sad individual. Many of my friends and family are in
law enforcement. Nor have I ever been arrested or anything. I was thrown
in jail once when I was about 8 years old. Myt dad had taken me to work
and he was a cop and threw me in jail overnight. I asked him in the
morning why he did that for? He told me so I would see what it was like
and I would never want to go there again. It apparently worked, because
I never been there again.

And don't forget that your attempts to hide your real name means I'm speaking
to an imaginary character. Do you think the courts would laugh if I was
brought before them for threatening Mickey Mouse?

I've used BillW50 since '94 and WilliamW23 8 years before that. There is
no secret who I am and virtually anybody can find out.

How are you accessing the Internet, Bill? Are you on an evening or night
cleaning shift, and using the warden's computer? Maybe using one in the prison
library?

Or is some guard giving you a special privilege in return for the favors you
provide him?

I'm removing the cross-post to alt.cellular.verizon because I don't suspect
you to be more than a low-life, flaming, Win-droid troll, as you have proven
over the years in other newsgroups, such as alt.os.linux.ubuntu where you
continually bad-mouthed Linux.

I don't pay much attention to the cross postings and I don't monitor
alt.os.linux.ubuntu either. Nor have I ever did.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 7 Pro SP1 (x86)

On 2/21/2013 10:35 AM, John F. Morse wrote:
On 02/21/2013 10:12 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 10:04 AM, charlie wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:30 PM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
I've been looking for a gasoline powered generator
How large a generator? What's expensive?
Harbor Freight has an 800w gas gen for $89.95
Large generators? Google Genrac. There are other lower cost generators
as well, with sources usually on the west coast.

Generally, a "conventional" generator uses the mass of the rotating
components, along with regulator(s) to stabilize the output. More
expensive units have a solid state "inverter" for more tightly
controlled output.

One drawback of the conventional generator has to do with the output
voltage level in an "idle" situation. The inverter types usually don't
have the lower voltage output associated with the idle condition.
My conventional 15KW ~22KW surge generator drops output voltage to
~90-100vac at idle, and immediately goes to normal output 123-125 vac
under load. Frequency control seems to be within 1 hz or so of 60 hz.

A good UPS with a voltage stabilizer capability can help with
"sensitive" equipment. Most of the current crop of desktops (with a
decent power supply) aren't to picky, and the UPS helps eliminate any
brownout that might be caused by a generator going into idle mode.

Curiously, what is the gas usage typically under load per hour?


It would depend on the load, and the specific fuel, doofus.

Gas? Gasoline, regular, unleaded, premium.

How about the other "gas" like natural gas, propane, butane, LPG?

What if it was a diesel generator?

And you brag about writing programs?

[Verizon crosspost removed. You sound more like an ignorant Win-droid than a
cell phone user.]

Not very smart, are you John? I was referring to Charles's typical
gasoline usage for his 15KW-22KW surge generator. And I was asking what
he gets. Not what if you, I, or somebody else gets.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 7 Pro SP1 (x86)

On 2/21/2013 11:12 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 10:04 AM, charlie wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:30 PM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
I've been looking for a gasoline powered generator
How large a generator? What's expensive?
Harbor Freight has an 800w gas gen for $89.95
Large generators? Google Genrac. There are other lower cost generators
as well, with sources usually on the west coast.

Generally, a "conventional" generator uses the mass of the rotating
components, along with regulator(s) to stabilize the output. More
expensive units have a solid state "inverter" for more tightly
controlled output.

One drawback of the conventional generator has to do with the output
voltage level in an "idle" situation. The inverter types usually don't
have the lower voltage output associated with the idle condition.
My conventional 15KW ~22KW surge generator drops output voltage to
~90-100vac at idle, and immediately goes to normal output 123-125 vac
under load. Frequency control seems to be within 1 hz or so of 60 hz.

A good UPS with a voltage stabilizer capability can help with
"sensitive" equipment. Most of the current crop of desktops (with a
decent power supply) aren't to picky, and the UPS helps eliminate any
brownout that might be caused by a generator going into idle mode.

Curiously, what is the gas usage typically under load per hour?

16 Gal tank
10 Hours at 50% load
15Kw continuous, 22.5KW Motor start(4 ton A/C, etc.) rated
Normal 87 Oct regular gas, conversions kits available for LP and Nat Gas

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

[snip]

I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus
Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus'
mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there.

It does. It tells me that people have choice.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On 2/21/2013 11:31 AM, charlie wrote:
On 2/21/2013 11:12 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/21/2013 10:04 AM, charlie wrote:
On 2/20/2013 5:30 PM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
I've been looking for a gasoline powered generator
How large a generator? What's expensive?
Harbor Freight has an 800w gas gen for $89.95
Large generators? Google Genrac. There are other lower cost generators
as well, with sources usually on the west coast.

Generally, a "conventional" generator uses the mass of the rotating
components, along with regulator(s) to stabilize the output. More
expensive units have a solid state "inverter" for more tightly
controlled output.

One drawback of the conventional generator has to do with the output
voltage level in an "idle" situation. The inverter types usually don't
have the lower voltage output associated with the idle condition.
My conventional 15KW ~22KW surge generator drops output voltage to
~90-100vac at idle, and immediately goes to normal output 123-125 vac
under load. Frequency control seems to be within 1 hz or so of 60 hz.

A good UPS with a voltage stabilizer capability can help with
"sensitive" equipment. Most of the current crop of desktops (with a
decent power supply) aren't to picky, and the UPS helps eliminate any
brownout that might be caused by a generator going into idle mode.

Curiously, what is the gas usage typically under load per hour?

16 Gal tank
10 Hours at 50% load
15Kw continuous, 22.5KW Motor start(4 ton A/C, etc.) rated
Normal 87 Oct regular gas, conversions kits available for LP and Nat Gas

Oh that doesn't sound bad at all. I do use a big LP tank that gets
filled up I dunno, like 3 or 4 times a year that I use to heat the house
and the garage that would probably be cheaper to run a generator from
too when the need arises. Thanks again.

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 7 Pro SP1 (x86)

On 2/21/2013 12:02 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:44:15 -0600, wrote:

[snip]

I have been waiting for Linux to catch up since '95. Sadly Linus
Torvalds, his father, and his sister even uses Windows. Only Linus'
mother uses Linux. That should tell you something right there.

It does. It tells me that people have choice.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Yes there are always other choices. Although not everybody needs are the
same. Unfortunately for some, Windows is the best all around general
purpose OS out there and nothing else comes close to it. :-(

Although speaking about Linux and others, you know I get more use out of
my 14 year old Palm IIIc than I get from my Linux and Android machines?
And I only am on it's second lithium battery which the first one I
replaced back in '05. And it will run 12 hours on battery and two weeks
living on standby. Best of all, it syncs with Windows. ;-)

--
Bill
Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 7 Pro SP1 (x86)

BillW50 wrote on [Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:35:03 -0600]:
In ,
Gene E. Bloch typed:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:24:10 -0500, tlvp wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I am a perfectionists ...

Do tell :-) .

... and I can find bugs that nobody else can find.

And conversely, it would appear :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

OK, guys, it can happen. I can find bugs that no one else can find
too.

More than once, I have bought or installed something and had it crash,
and it ended up being a bug that tech support had never seen before.

But perhaps that comes under the rubric of "conversely" :-)

Let me put it in another way. Over the years I have written hundreds of
programs and nobody to date has ever found a bug in one of my programs.

That would require users...

It seems easy to me to logically think of every single variable and what
could happen to the running program. It is a lot like playing chess
logically.

You must be writing extremely small applets

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:35:03 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

In ,
Gene E. Bloch typed:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:24:10 -0500, tlvp wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I am a perfectionists ...

Do tell :-) .

... and I can find bugs that nobody else can find.

And conversely, it would appear :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

OK, guys, it can happen. I can find bugs that no one else can find
too.

More than once, I have bought or installed something and had it crash,
and it ended up being a bug that tech support had never seen before.

But perhaps that comes under the rubric of "conversely" :-)

Let me put it in another way. Over the years I have written hundreds of
programs and nobody to date has ever found a bug in one of my programs.
It seems easy to me to logically think of every single variable and what
could happen to the running program. It is a lot like playing chess
logically.

Different subject...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:55:15 +0000 (UTC), "Justin"
wrote in article ...

BillW50 wrote on [Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:35:03 -0600]:
In ,
Gene E. Bloch typed:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:24:10 -0500, tlvp wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

I am a perfectionists ...

Do tell :-) .

... and I can find bugs that nobody else can find.

And conversely, it would appear :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

OK, guys, it can happen. I can find bugs that no one else can find
too.

More than once, I have bought or installed something and had it crash,
and it ended up being a bug that tech support had never seen before.

But perhaps that comes under the rubric of "conversely" :-)

Let me put it in another way. Over the years I have written hundreds of
programs and nobody to date has ever found a bug in one of my programs.

That would require users...

It seems easy to me to logically think of every single variable and what
could happen to the running program. It is a lot like playing chess
logically.

You must be writing extremely small applets

+1

I'd wager that those aren't bug-free unless they are *very* limited in
functionality. I know QA testing (it is part of what I do), and I'd
bet a professional QA test would find bugs in his programs.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:05:08 +0000 (UTC), "Justin"
wrote in article ...

BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:27:23 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 6:15 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:02:42 -0600]:
On 2/19/2013 5:34 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:55:13 -0600]:
On 2/16/2013 10:21 PM, Justin wrote:
BillW50 wrote on [Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:10:47 -0600]:

Anything regarding IM for Linux is really stripped down and isn't worth
much. The only thing for IM for Linux is somewhat respectable is Skype,
which I never used for Linux, but what I have heard. Everything else for
Linux is pretty much plain text and that is it.

That's what IM is, plain text.

Naw... it is much more than that. Fonts, italics, bold, underline,
emoticons, mic, webcam, file transfers, etc.

Webcam is not a requirement of IM. Nor is microphone.
I've never had a problem with any of these though

Lots of problems with Linux. As Linux has the most limited support for

Yep, must be some PEBCAK issues

You wish Justin. I am a perfectionists and I can find bugs that nobody
else can find.

hahahahahahahah

We should list out his self-professed qualifications and see just what
a superior being we are dealing with here. I mean, seriously, I doubt
any of us could measure up to his delusions of grandeur!

--
Zaphod

If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
-Ford Prefect

Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, BillW50 said:

The only reason I reboot my Win7 machine daily is because I shut it
down overnight or if I'm going to be gone for at least an hour as a
power saving measure. +THIS+ machine does not like Sleep or
Hibernation, as a defect in the hardware. My last laptop had no
problem, and would go weeks on end without an actual restart.
Typically, it would get an actual restart only when a system update
required one.

I have over 30 machines here. And I have one like that. It's my Dell
Latitude Slate Tablet with an Atom Z670. Motion Computing also uses the
same CPU in their CL900 (and it is said that they designed the Dell
slate). And MC said that the Z670 is *only* compatible with Windows 7
SP1 and that is it.

I know of nobody who has got XP to run on the Atom Z670. But many have
got Windows 8 running on it. But it isn't perfect. One of the problems
with Windows 8 that I have seen is incomplete shutdowns and lockups
trying to use standby or hibernation.

Fortunately, this machine's Sleep/Hibernate problems are that bad. If
I use Sleep, it merely borks Aero Glass effects until I do a restart.
Hibernation actually causes more serious issues, in that for some
reason it causes system slowdowns that I first really notice with my
mouse - the cursor no longer moves as fast across the screen as it's
set to.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

"I'm a Lieutenant Commander in Earth Force, Major. I do not take
demands. If you have a request, I'll consider it." "Very well then,
I +request+ that you open a channel to Earth Dome." "Request denied.
Have a nice day." (Lt. Cmdr. Ivanova and Maj. Kemmer, B5 "Survivors")

Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, BillW50 said:

Since updates that require reboots comes out at least every two
months, either you are an irresponsible user or fibbing

Really? Asus sold netbooks with XP2 with 4GB SSD soldered on the
motherboard and it is impossible to update these machines. And Microsoft

What is "XP2"? And what does having an SSD soldered to the board have
to do with installing update patches for the OS?

Since I have a lot of spare machines, I had taken half of them and
stopped updating them four years ago. And then recorded the results. And
none of them ever got a virus or a rootkit either.

Do you use protection?

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
Double ROT13 encoded for your protection

"In the blood-heat of pursuing the enemy, many people are forgetting
what we are fighting for. We are fighting for our hard-won liberty
and our freedom; for our Constitution and the due processes of our
laws; and for the right to differ in ideas, religion and politics. I
am convinced that in your zeal to fight against our enemies, you, too,
have forgotten what you are fighting for." - Julia Child in a letter
to the "Committee for Discrimination in Giving", 1954

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:34:22 +0000, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

Do you use protection?

Maybe not. He claims to have over 30 kids^H^H^H^Hcomputers.

(Note to Bill: that's a joke. Just laugh it off.)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)