Thunderbird eMail Startup

Win 7 Pro laptop.
Just now installed Thunderbird for eMail.

Have not done anything else yet.

I want to put the repository of all things Thunderbird on the D: drive.

How do I do that ?

Thank you !

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On 3/15/19 1:40 PM, MayBee wrote:
Win 7 Pro laptop.
Just now installed Thunderbird for eMail.

Have not done anything else yet.

I want to put the repository of all things Thunderbird on the D: drive.

How do I do that ?

Thank you !

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Have you tried using google? I found it 2 clicks.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_you...your_ profile


Google:
https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...10.pa6NeikyQEs

There are a few good hits. Maybe 4th or 5th if my link above doesn't work.

Well if I knew what is was called I could have.
YAH.

On 15/03/2019 17:40, MayBee wrote:


How do I do that ?



Have you thought of hiring an Indian Technician who has been granted an
H-1B visa to come to the USA and help people like you? They are there
for such things and their charges are pretty competitive.

You are not going to get any help here because you don't know yourself
what exactly you want to do, let alone you don't know what your real
name is. Perhaps this is due to many Hispanics in California who are
only good at selling drugs like you.

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Does not work.

Thunderbird -profilemanager

Opens Thunderbird not the profile manager.

Now what ?

MayBee wrote:
Does not work.

Thunderbird -profilemanager

Opens Thunderbird not the profile manager.

Now what ?

If you default installed then there is a Prof Mgr icon in programs.

Paul in Houston TX wrote:
MayBee wrote:
Does not work.

Thunderbird -profilemanager

Opens Thunderbird not the profile manager.

Now what ?

If you default installed then there is a Prof Mgr icon in programs.


There's also a profiles.ini folder where you can
add entries. The entries can use "relative" paths,
which are relative to the location of "profiles.ini".

But it also supports absolute paths, so you
can make a reference to an ABCD1234 folder
on the D: drive.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager

And you don't even need to use Profile Manager, if
there is only one profile and that profile is on
the D: drive. You just need to edit the profiles.ini
and "move" the folder that way.

When you install Thunderbird

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profiles.ini_file

it might start like this. The default uses relative paths.
The install process makes a randomly named abcd1234 folder.
A Windows search on profiles.ini, will show up to three
different files belonging to different Mozilla projects.
You select the profiles.ini belonging to Thunderbird.

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/abcd1234.default

You could experiment with:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\abcd1234.default

You would copy over the abcd1234.default folder,
before running Thunderbird right after you'd edited
the profiles.ini. The profiles.ini stays in the "well
known place", while the abcd1234 folder can be anywhere.
And with one entry total, there's no need for a ProfileManager
attempt.

Paul

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
The install process makes a randomly named abcd1234 folder.
A Windows search on profiles.ini, will show up to three
different files belonging to different Mozilla projects.
You select the profiles.ini belonging to Thunderbird.

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=Profiles/abcd1234.default

You could experiment with:

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\abcd1234.default

You would copy over the abcd1234.default folder,
before running Thunderbird right after you'd edited
the profiles.ini. The profiles.ini stays in the "well
known place", while the abcd1234 folder can be anywhere.
And with one entry total, there's no need for a ProfileManager
attempt.

Paul

Can you rename the profile folder to something different from the
randomly-generated string at the same time as moving it (and tweaking
the .ini as shown above), or is that string also referred to in other
places?
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\abcd1234.default

Can you rename the profile folder to something different from the
randomly-generated string at the same time as moving it (and tweaking
the .ini as shown above), or is that string also referred to in other
places?

I think that's the only place it is referred to.

I haven't messed with it, to see if it accepts
any old thing. I don't see a particular reason
why the "Name" field must be the same as the
fake "extension" on the end of the folder name
they made for themselves. But you know software
people. They could do anything they wanted, and
examining the source would prove what would work.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thun...60.5.3/source/

I couldn't tell you what Thunderbird does, if the
stated profile simply is not there. The three pane view
in Thunderbird is a kind of "web page", and I'm sure
there's an error handler in there somewhere for
such a case. It would be dumb to not have defensive
programming in place for that.

Paul

On 16/03/2019 03:56, Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Can you rename the profile folder to something different from the
randomly-generated string at the same time as moving it (and tweaking
the .ini as shown above), or is that string also referred to in other
places?

I think that's the only place it is referred to.

Correct. My profiles.inis for Pale Moon, Firefox, & Thunderbird all
have absolute paths to directory names of my own choosing on the D: drive:

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Moonchild Productions\Pale
Moon\profiles.ini:
[Profile0]
...
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\USERNAME\Pale Moon

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefo x\profiles.ini:
[Profile0]
...
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\USERNAME\Firefox

[Profile1]
...
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\USERNAME\Firefox (debug)

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\pr ofiles.ini:
[Profile0]
...
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\USERNAME\Thunderbird\Mail

[Profile1]
...
IsRelative=0
Path=D:\USERNAME\Thunderbird\News

Obviously, when setting this up, you have to
Exit the relevant program
(wait for Task Manager to show it's really gone);
Copy the profile to the new drive/directory;
Rename it with the desired name;
Edit profiles.ini appropriately and save the result;
Restart the program.

Note also that mostly the data structures for Firefox & Pale Moon are
compatible, so if you want to copy your settings and passwords from one
to the other, you can copy the above directory contents as a whole or
the particular file containing particular settings that you want to
copy. I can't comment on whether the same is true of Firefox &
Thunderbird because I've never tried to use the latter as a browser, but
if asked to guess I'd say 'most probably'.

Note also the two Thunderbird profiles above, one for mail, one for news
posts - so far this has completely prevented me from accidentally
sending a private mail to a public newsgroup, which is an error I see
occasionally from others. Similarly, I have a separate FF profile for
debugging my own website when I'm working on it.

More generally, I try and force all installed programs to save their
data on the D: drive. This means I need only back-up the system C:
drive once a month or so, less for a PC that isn't used much - which I
do using Ghost which creates its backups on the data D: drive - but
can still back-up incrementally the data D: drive every night in about
10 mins or less, longer only if there is a new Ghost image or a number
of new GetIPlayer downloads to back up.

In message , Java Jive
writes:
On 16/03/2019 03:56, Paul wrote:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Can you rename the profile folder to something different from the
randomly-generated string at the same time as moving it (and tweaking
the .ini as shown above), or is that string also referred to in other

I think that's the only place it is referred to.

Correct. My profiles.inis for Pale Moon, Firefox, & Thunderbird all
have absolute paths to directory names of my own choosing on the D:
[]
Obviously, when setting this up, you have to
Exit the relevant program
(wait for Task Manager to show it's really gone);
Copy the profile to the new drive/directory;
Rename it with the desired name;
Edit profiles.ini appropriately and save the result;
Restart the program.

Thanks for that info and instructions.

Note also that mostly the data structures for Firefox & Pale Moon are
compatible, so if you want to copy your settings and passwords from one
to the other, you can copy the above directory contents as a whole or
the particular file containing particular settings that you want to
copy. I can't comment on whether the same is true of Firefox &
Thunderbird because I've never tried to use the latter as a browser,
but if asked to guess I'd say 'most probably'.

Would there be no end of grief if you tried to put your Thunderbird and
Firefox profiles in the _same_ place, or would they "play nice"
together? Just curious!

Note also the two Thunderbird profiles above, one for mail, one for
news posts - so far this has completely prevented me from
accidentally sending a private mail to a public newsgroup, which is an
error I see occasionally from others. Similarly, I have a separate FF
profile for debugging my own website when I'm working on it.

I presume you can still send a private reply to a newsgroup post,
assuming the poster hasn't munged their address (or has said how to
de-munge it).

More generally, I try and force all installed programs to save their
data on the D: drive. This means I need only back-up the system C:

Oh, definitely. C: for OS and software only!

drive once a month or so, less for a PC that isn't used much - which
I do using Ghost which creates its backups on the data D: drive - but
can still back-up incrementally the data D: drive every night in about
10 mins or less, longer only if there is a new Ghost image or a number
of new GetIPlayer downloads to back up.

You have a commendable frequency! (I image C-and-hidden [with Macrium 5,
booted from its mini-CD] and sync. D [with synctoy], but a lot less
often than you do! [Probably as it's to an external drive in a dock,
which is tedious, but that's no excuse.])
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Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard

On 16/03/2019 11:53, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Would there be no end of grief if you tried to put your Thunderbird and
Firefox profiles in the _same_ place, or would they "play nice"
together? Just curious!

I've not done so, and have no intention and would strongly advise
against trying it, because both programs lock certain key files.
Therefore I suspect what would happen is that the first program launched
would lock the files, and the second program launched would do one of
three things:
1) Abort with an error message;
2) Hang waiting for the files to become unlocked;
3) Go into an auto-recovery mode and create a new profile
back in the user's directory on the C: drive.

My guess is that the third is what would happen, but, if you're lucky,
you may get a choice simply to exit the program instead.

On 16/03/2019 11:43, Java Jive wrote:

Note also the two Thunderbird profiles above, one for mail, one for news
postsÂ* -Â* so far this has completely prevented me from accidentally
sending a private mail to a public newsgroup, which is an error I see
occasionally from others.Â* Similarly, I have a separate FF profile for
debugging my own website when I'm working on it.

I should perhaps have mentioned how to launch the two profiles into
separate windows, so that they don't become new tabs in an existing
window. You need to create/change the Start Menu shortcut properties to
each work in the appropriate profile directory, and to launch:

C:\Programs\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe -no-remote -P USERNAME
C:\Programs\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe -no-remote -P Debug

C:\Programs\Mozilla\Thunderbird\thunderbird_mail.e xe -no-remote -P Mail
C:\Programs\Mozilla\Thunderbird\thunderbird_news.e xe -no-remote -P News