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  #46  
Old January 7th 04, 10:30 PM
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote in message
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- Nehmo -
Where is the event log? I get about 5 minuts between shutdowns.
- Rod Speed -
Control Panel/Performance and Maintenance/
Admin Tools/Event Viewer/System

- Nehmo -
I'm using old drive too.

- Rod Speed -
Yeah, thats what I meant to say last time and managed to forget,
that its unlikely to be anything to do with the drive copying. Its
likely the system has become very unstable for other reasons.

Try memtest86 on it to check for memory errors.


- Nehmo -
I found event viewer by looking at Help. I didn't see anything
that looked like a problem, but I don't know what to look for.


Basically entrys with a red X in front of them in the System log.

I called a friend of mine, Bret, who used to work at Cisco (and now is
trying to run a FIGHT studio. He had his first two customers yesterday.)
. When I explained, Bret said, "I'm 99% sure, and I don't usually say
that, that it has something to do with the power settings." On his
direction, I went into Windows setup (or I think BIOS means the same
thing) Power Menu ACPI and although it was Yes, I changed it to No
restarted went back into BIOS and changed it back to Yes. I think

things are working now. It hasn't shut down again yet.


OK.

Now I have to get back to the drive problem.


I've unplugged and replugged the ATA ribbon so many times (I used long
nose pliers) that the pieces of plastic _over_ the end connectors have
come off. I think the cable is still electrically okay though.


Best to replace it.

Bret said I should just use Ghost.


Yes, that certainly works. Drive Image too.

He wasn't familiar with XXCLONE.


Yeah, its only been released for a few weeks now.

You appeared to be saying that you had used xxclone successfully.
Isnt it working properly now that the acpi problem is fixed ?


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  #47  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
Timothy Daniels
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"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrpte"
Didn't work.
I assumed the copy from old HD to new HD I had previously
done with MaxBlast was the same as the copy it would do if I
ran the program again, so I just proceeded with the remaining steps.
I moved the jumpers to make the new drive master
I removed the jumper to make the old drive slave

I switched positions of the drives on the ATA cable to
Black {end} connector to New HD
Grey {middle} connector to Old HD

I first started without the old drive connected.
Windows XP began to start but stopped short and produced the
Windows Product Activation box saying there was a problem with
WPA, error code 0x80090006 .

Just to make sure the disconnection of the old drive had nothing
to do with it, I tried again this time with both drives connected as
described above. The same error developed.

So I returned things back the way they we jumpers old=master,
new=slave ; ATA cable, black end to old , grey middle to new.
Now things work as befo the OS is still on the old HD.

My understanding of Win XP WPA is from
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm .
When I installed XP (up form ME) on this machine, I had
already added a NIC and some RAM. Now I'm trying to add
a HD. So the only change in hardware categories is the HD.
That shouldn't be enough to trigger WPA error.

I'll have to call Maxtor and maybe Microsoft tomorrow. It
frustrates me that these companies with global scope should
have such narrow tech support hours. The weekends and
after-normal-business-hours should not be dead time.

It's sure taking a long time just to get a new drive in.



I never had any luck with using MaxBlast to make a bootable
copy of a WinXP drive. Drive Image 2002 has worked, although
only if the source and destination drives are on the same MoBo
IDE channel. (It never did work in any way using ATA133 PCI
controller card channels.) BTW, two different tech reps at Maxtor
commented to me that MaxBlast "isn't very good". But... people's
mileage does vary.

*TimDaniels*
  #48  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
Timothy Daniels
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"J.Clarke" wrote:

FWIW, I had occasion to upgrade my XP box today--
downloaded the latest Drive Image, installed it, hooked
up the new drive, told it to copy, was surprised that it
copied the whole boot drive right over and that after I
pulled the old drive the new one came right up. Haven't
tried _imaging_ the boot drive, but copying worked fine.



Was that Drive Image 7 or 7.01? (Version 7.01 is the
downloadable "fix" for a buggy version 7. It can also be
ordered on CD for $5 if you already bought ver 7.)

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  #49  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
J.Clarke
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 07:21:07 GMT
"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote:

- tomcas -
Did you follow steps 1 thru 6 on pg 23 and 24?


http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/i...tion_guide.pdf

- Nehmo -
Okay, I'm going to try it.

- Nehmo -
Didn't work.
I assumed the copy from old HD to new HD I had previously done with
MaxBlast was the same as the copy it would do if I ran the program
again, so I just proceeded with the remaining steps.
I moved the jumpers to make the new drive master
I removed the jumper to make the old drive slave

I switched positions of the drives on the ATA cable to
Black {end} connector to New HD
Grey {middle} connector to Old HD

I first started without the old drive connected.
Windows XP began to start but stopped short and produced the Windows
Product Activation box saying there was a problem with WPA, error code
0x80090006 .


Did you go to Microsoft's site and plug that number into the
knowledgebase? If not, try it.

Just to make sure the disconnection of the old drive had nothing to do
with it, I tried again this time with both drives connected as
described above. The same error developed.

So I returned things back the way they we jumpers old=master,
new=slave ; ATA cable, black end to old , grey middle to new. Now
things work as befo the OS is still on the old HD.

My understanding of Win XP WPA is from http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
. When I installed XP (up form ME) on this machine, I had already
added a NIC and some RAM. Now I'm trying to add a HD. So the only
change in hardware categories is the HD. That shouldn't be enough to
trigger WPA error.


When product activation triggers it does _not_ give the message you
report.

I'll have to call Maxtor and maybe Microsoft tomorrow. It frustrates
me that these companies with global scope should have such narrow tech
support hours. The weekends and after-normal-business-hours should not
be dead time.


Microsoft however maintains a very extensive online database of problems
and solutions. It's rare that I have to call them.

It's sure taking a long time just to get a new drive in.


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  #50  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:37:03 -0800
"Timothy Daniels" wrote:


"J.Clarke" wrote:

FWIW, I had occasion to upgrade my XP box today--
downloaded the latest Drive Image, installed it, hooked
up the new drive, told it to copy, was surprised that it
copied the whole boot drive right over and that after I
pulled the old drive the new one came right up. Haven't
tried _imaging_ the boot drive, but copying worked fine.



Was that Drive Image 7 or 7.01? (Version 7.01 is the
downloadable "fix" for a buggy version 7. It can also be
ordered on CD for $5 if you already bought ver 7.)


It was 7.0 I believe--the download includes the fix in a separate
directory from the ISO but I forgot to install it--thanks for reminding
me.

*TimDaniels*



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  #51  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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tomcas wrote in
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Rod Speed wrote


Yeah, cloning a boot drive isnt effortless
with XP or any of the NT/2K/XP family.


I recently cloned an IBM drive under 2K using the IBM utility Disk
Manager 2000. It was relatively effortless. Not quick, but effortless.


Not as far as bashing you over the head with the fact that
the original drive needs to be physically unplugged for the
first boot after the clone of the original boot drive it isnt.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. IBM Disk Manager requires that you
simply change the master/slave jumper settings. Compared to labor of
installing an extra drive it doesn't seem to be a big deal.

Thats the main thing that fangs inexperienced users on the
bum time after time after time with the NT/2K/XP family.




  #52  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
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It is easier to use one of the commerical products such as Norton's Ghost.
  #53  
Old January 7th 04, 10:32 PM
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You do actually mean clone and not write the image file to
the USB drive dont you ? Thats one area where there is lots
of confusion with imaging programs that will also clone. They
are quite different operations and both ghost and DI can do both.

You wouldnt normally want to CLONE to a USB HD because
you wouldnt normally want to boot from that cloned drive.

Ron
I actually want to clone the HD to the external USB drive in order to
create a backup HD that I could plug into the laptop and go. This is
motivated by my thought that HDs are vulnerable on laptops. I travel with
mine in a motor home and need it for GPS navigation. I have ordered Ghost
2003 and will have it in about five days, so maybe I will be back on the NG
with questions when I try to use it. Thanks for the help.


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  #54  
Old January 7th 04, 11:14 PM
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tomcas wrote in
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Rod Speed wrote
tomcas wrote
Rod Speed wrote


Yeah, cloning a boot drive isnt effortless
with XP or any of the NT/2K/XP family.


I recently cloned an IBM drive under 2K using the IBM utility Disk
Manager 2000. It was relatively effortless. Not quick, but effortless.


Not as far as bashing you over the head with the fact that
the original drive needs to be physically unplugged for the
first boot after the clone of the original boot drive it isnt.


I'm not sure what you are talking about.


That a clone of the XP boot drive requires the original to be
UNPLUGGED from the system for the first boot after the clone,
otherwise XP gets VERY confused and you'll find that if you
dont do that, it wont boot when the original drive is formatted.

IBM Disk Manager requires that yousimply
change the master/slave jumper settings.


And just that isnt enough.

Compared to labor of installing an extra
drive it doesn't seem to be a big deal.


Sure, but thats not the problem.

Thats the main thing that fangs inexperienced users on the
bum time after time after time with the NT/2K/XP family.



  #55  
Old January 7th 04, 11:14 PM
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Jim Walker wrote in message
...

You do actually mean clone and not write the image file to
the USB drive dont you ? Thats one area where there is lots
of confusion with imaging programs that will also clone. They
are quite different operations and both ghost and DI can do both.


You wouldnt normally want to CLONE to a USB HD because
you wouldnt normally want to boot from that cloned drive.


I actually want to clone the HD to the external USB drive in order
to create a backup HD that I could plug into the laptop and go.
This is motivated by my thought that HDs are vulnerable on laptops.
I travel with mine in a motor home and need it for GPS navigation.


OK, in that case cloning certainly allows
a quick recovery from a hard drive failure.

I have ordered Ghost 2003 and will have it in about five days,


You could have got the free trial download immediately, but
maybe you dont have enough bandwidth for that to be viable.

It should do the job with a small risk that it wont like
the particular USB implementation. It uses dos drivers
for the USB and they arent completely bulletproof in
the sense that they always work with all USB systems.

Drive Image 2002 wont work because it does a clone
of the entire physical drive at the dos level and there
isnt any USB support at that level with DI 2002

Drive Image 7 will probably work if you boot from
the DI CD and do the clone at that level. Might
work from the Win boot too, havent tried that yet.

so maybe I will be back on the NG
with questions when I try to use it.


Its not too bad now with 2003. A few ops are a little counter
intuitive, particularly the first restore of an image file, it isnt
obvious to many just where you have to click to specify the
destination. Quite usable once you get the hang of it tho
except for setting up image file ops over a network with an
unsupported NIC. Thats rather too much for most normal users.


  #56  
Old January 7th 04, 11:14 PM
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Ron
I will look at the Symantec site again. I didn't see the free trial
offer. I am sure that I missed it.


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  #57  
Old January 8th 04, 02:21 PM
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Actually, the DON'T have the free trialware of Ghost 2003, only the
Ghost 8.0 Corporate edition.

Robert

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Jim Walker wrote:
Ron
I will look at the Symantec site again. I didn't see the free trial
offer. I am sure that I missed it.


  #58  
Old January 8th 04, 02:21 PM
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In article , J.Clarke
writes
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 07:21:07 GMT
"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote:

I first started without the old drive connected.
Windows XP began to start but stopped short and produced the Windows
Product Activation box saying there was a problem with WPA, error code
0x80090006 .


Did you go to Microsoft's site and plug that number into the
knowledgebase? If not, try it.


Well I've just had the same thing happen to me as Nehmo, exact same
error code, and if you type it into M$ knowledge base you get an
explanation telling you that it is a product activation error caused
because the o/s can no longer determine whether the license is correct
anymore because the new HD serial no. doesn't produce the correct result
for WPA to accept it. I'm paraphrasing a lot there.

It didn't matter to my system that I only plugged in the new HD after I
had cloned the old, it still gave the error. I have been able to do
this before, but that was with FAT32 and not NTFS. Not sure if that
made any difference.

Just to make sure the disconnection of the old drive had nothing to do
with it, I tried again this time with both drives connected as
described above. The same error developed.

So I returned things back the way they we jumpers old=master,
new=slave ; ATA cable, black end to old , grey middle to new. Now
things work as befo the OS is still on the old HD.

My understanding of Win XP WPA is from http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.ht

m
. When I installed XP (up form ME) on this machine, I had already
added a NIC and some RAM. Now I'm trying to add a HD. So the only
change in hardware categories is the HD. That shouldn't be enough to
trigger WPA error.


When product activation triggers it does _not_ give the message you
report.


Well, in this instance, it does seem a WPA cause. And the solution? To
do a repair install, which lost all startup settings, was requiring
certain programs to be re-installed before they would run and even
reported the HD size incorrectly. I have had to put the old drive back
in again. Is there no way that the reference to the WPA code (and its
relation to the old HD) could be edited in some way? Otherwise, my only
solution is going to be to do a complete re-install, just because
Micro$haft think WPA is an ideal solution to software piracy.
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  #59  
Old January 8th 04, 02:21 PM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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- Nehmo -
I'm using old drive too.


- Rod Speed -
Yeah, thats what I meant to say last time and managed to forget,
that its unlikely to be anything to do with the drive copying. Its
likely the system has become very unstable for other reasons.
Try memtest86 on it to check for memory errors.


- Nehmo -
I temporarily put aside the drive replacement/addition job until I can
get the system running normally. I have to limit changes, so I can
figure out what's to blame. I'll run my usual check-out stuff, and I'll
try memtest86.
http://www.memtest86.com/ ; It can't hurt.

When I do something that ends up disabling the computer, it takes an
emotional toll on me. I don't have a back up - no extra computer, and
the HD isn't backed up either. During this last episode, a few times I
had to start the computer, quickly start Outlook, and get an phone #
before the computer shut down.

(To add to the computer problem, and these things are unrelated to
computers, I had to go to court, which usually goes bad for me, and my
house's water pipes froze. I'm renting, but the landlord doesn't help
with maintenance. Fortunately, once unfrozen, the pipes didn't leak, and
I got a continuance from the judge.)

I believe this shut down (ACPI) problem must be related to trying to
change the drive. I don't know how it happened, though.

- Nehmo -
I found event viewer by looking at Help. I didn't see anything
that looked like a problem, but I don't know what to look for.


- Rod Speed -
Basically entrys with a red X in front of them in the System log.


- Nehmo -
I'm getting to Event Viewer by.
Start All Programs Administrative Tools Event Viewer
There is one recurring red-X item:
The Concord EyeQ Duo 2000 USB Video Capture V1.00 service failed to
start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

This attempted start is a remnant form some camera software I installed
and uninstalled. There must be a registry entry somewhere that causes
the system to try and start it. But this can't be the cause of any
recent problems because I uninstalled Concord several weeks ago.

I'm also getting a lot of True Victor failed starts. True Victor is a
part of Zone Alarm, and ZA warns you when TV fails to start. Then you
have the option to start it again. It usually starts properly and works
when started at that point.

- Nehmo -
I haven't restarted a bunch of times since I solved the ACPI
peculiarity - Actually, I now realize that's not completely solved.

After I reset the ACPI power option in the BIOS to Yes (even though it
appeared to be Yes when I first looked at it), I set the power settings
in Desktop Properties to not turn anything off (for the benefit of those
unfamiliar with the process, I'm presenting this in detail).
On Desktop rightclick properties Desktop Properties window Screen
Saver tab Screen Saver set at None press Power button Power
Options Properties window Power schemes = Home/Office Desk All
dropdown setting for Home/Office Desk = Never, that is never turn off
anything and never go to standby

Immediately after the ACPI fix (?), the system seemed to operate
normally. The computer and monitor stayed on all night. However, now I
see it going off after a while of idle time. And I mean "off" as before,
the light on the front of the box goes out, monitor stops getting a
signal, but the processor fan keeps running. I can't turn everything off
and on again by the front button; I have to unplug and re-plug.

- Nehmo -
I went into Windows setup (or I think BIOS means the same
thing) Power Menu ACPI and although it was Yes, I changed it

to No
restarted went back into BIOS and changed it back to Yes. I

think
things are working now. It hasn't shut down again yet.


- Rod Speed -
OK.


- Nehmo -
Now I have to get back to the drive problem.


I've unplugged and re-plugged the ATA ribbon so many times (I used

long
nose pliers) that the pieces of plastic _over_ the end connectors

have
come off. I think the cable is still electrically okay though.


- Rod Speed -
Best to replace it.


- Nehmo -
Now you've got me worried. This drive stuff is so touchy, I think I
shouldn't use anything suspicious. I'll have to go out and buy a ribbon
somewhere. There's no place open around here. I live right in downtown
Kansas City, Kansas, but the downtown is blighted.

- Nehmo -
He wasn't familiar with XXCLONE.

- Rod Speed -
Yeah, its only been released for a few weeks now.
You appeared to be saying that you had used xxclone successfully.
Isnt it working properly now that the acpi problem is fixed ?


- Nehmo -
According to what XXCLONE tells the user, one disk is successfully
copied to the other. After the XXCLONE completes process, it brags that
the new drive is ready and can boot all on its own. I changed to jumpers
to make the new drive master and the old slave, and I changed the
positions of the drives on the cable: new drive=end, old drive=middle. I
left the old drive unplugged for the first boot up.

It took three attempts to boot up. The BIOS provided different screens,
I don't remember exactly, but the last one had three options for
locations of the OS, I think it was disk 0, p (apparently for partition)
1. Then Windows started.

I couldn't get into System Restore. When I tried, a warning popped up
saying the app had encountered a problem and needs to close - this was
before it even opened. Additionally, the shortcut icons for Word
documents were changed to one of the non-descript icons. I think it was
the same as the one Explorer uses for dat files. Clicking on these icons
did cause Word to start, but first it gave a warning that I should run
setup (I guess it means Office setup) and Repair. Then Word would start,
apparently normally.

Although these problems seem fixable, Bret advised me to abandon that HD
copy and try again with Ghost.

I just installed Symantec Ghost Enterprise Edition.


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  #60  
Old January 8th 04, 02:22 PM
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote in message
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- Nehmo -


I'm using old drive too.


- Rod Speed -
Yeah, thats what I meant to say last time and managed to forget,
that its unlikely to be anything to do with the drive copying. Its
likely the system has become very unstable for other reasons.
Try memtest86 on it to check for memory errors.


- Nehmo -
I temporarily put aside the drive replacement/addition
job until I can get the system running normally. I have
to limit changes, so I can figure out what's to blame.


Yeah, thats the best approach, resolve the
instability problem before trying to clone the drive.

I'll run my usual check-out stuff, and I'll try memtest86.
http://www.memtest86.com/ ; It can't hurt.


Yep, that does eliminate one possibility if it finds no errors.

When I do something that ends up disabling
the computer, it takes an emotional toll on me.


Yeah, the damned things are still much
more complicated than they should be.

Whoever claimed that computers would simplify
our lives was obviously a stupid journalist who
had never actually used one for anything much |-(

I don't have a back up - no extra computer,


Urk, wouldnt like to be in that situation again.

and the HD isn't backed up either.


Triple urk. I wouldnt operate like that myself.

I'd personally do something about that before doing anything
else. At least write the stuff thats irreplaceable to multiple
CDs, even if I had to run out and buy a burner to do that.

And I'd image the drives to the burner
before changing anything around too.

During this last episode, a few times I had to
start the computer, quickly start Outlook, and
get an phone # before the computer shut down.


Yeah, I can rather vividly remember the last time I was in that
situation. Fortunately it had developed a warmup fault and I
could get it to boot up for a bit by leaving the sun shining on the
motherboard so I could chase up the replacement motherboard
using the phone numbers that were stored on that PC.

Wont ever happen again, I never have just one PC anymore.

(To add to the computer problem, and these things are
unrelated to computers, I had to go to court, which usually
goes bad for me, and my house's water pipes froze. I'm
renting, but the landlord doesn't help with maintenance.


You've been walking on graves again havent you ? |-)

Fortunately, once unfrozen, the pipes didn't leak,


They never freeze around here, and I built the entire house
myself, so its me that gets to do any repairs to it now.

and I got a continuance from the judge.)


I dont end up in court myself.

I believe this shut down (ACPI) problem
must be related to trying to change the drive.


Not likely unless you managed to reset the cmos settings in
the process. Thats usually enablable and disableable in the bios.

I don't know how it happened, though.


Maybe you reset the bios in the process of changing things around.

- Nehmo -
I found event viewer by looking at Help. I didn't see anything
that looked like a problem, but I don't know what to look for.


- Rod Speed -
Basically entrys with a red X in front of them in the System log.


- Nehmo -
I'm getting to Event Viewer by.
Start All Programs Administrative Tools Event Viewer


Thats fine.

There is one recurring red-X item:
The Concord EyeQ Duo 2000 USB Video Capture V1.00
service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.


This attempted start is a remnant form some camera
software I installed and uninstalled. There must be a
registry entry somewhere that causes the system to try
and start it. But this can't be the cause of any recent
problems because I uninstalled Concord several weeks ago.


Yeah, its just another quirk thats been lurking for a while.

Worth checking the event viewer, particularly after signficant changes like that.

I'm also getting a lot of True Victor failed starts. True Victor
is a part of Zone Alarm, and ZA warns you when TV fails to
start. Then you have the option to start it again. It usually
starts properly and works when started at that point.


- Nehmo -
I haven't restarted a bunch of times since I solved the ACPI
peculiarity - Actually, I now realize that's not completely solved.


After I reset the ACPI power option in the BIOS to Yes (even though
it appeared to be Yes when I first looked at it), I set the power
settings in Desktop Properties to not turn anything off (for the benefit
of those unfamiliar with the process, I'm presenting this in detail).


On Desktop rightclick properties Desktop Properties window
Screen Saver tab Screen Saver set at None press Power button
Power Options Properties window Power schemes = Home/Office

Desk All dropdown setting for Home/Office Desk = Never, that is
never turn off anything and never go to standby


That shouldnt be necessary.

Immediately after the ACPI fix (?), the system seemed to operate
normally. The computer and monitor stayed on all night. However,
now I see it going off after a while of idle time. And I mean "off"
as before, the light on the front of the box goes out, monitor
stops getting a signal, but the processor fan keeps running.


Thats odd. But it appears to just be turning the monitor off.

I can't turn everything off and
on again by the front button;


What have you told XP to do with
that button ? Thats in Power Options.

I have to unplug and re-plug.


You may have to do a clean install of XP again.
It can get a bit confused when you change the
ACPI in the bios from what it was when installed.

Thats only likely to affect that return from standby tho.

- Nehmo -
I went into Windows setup (or I think BIOS means the same
thing) Power Menu ACPI and although it was Yes, I changed it

to No
restarted went back into BIOS and changed it back to Yes. I

think
things are working now. It hasn't shut down again yet.


- Rod Speed -
OK.


- Nehmo -
Now I have to get back to the drive problem.


I've unplugged and re-plugged the ATA ribbon so many times (I used

long
nose pliers) that the pieces of plastic _over_ the end connectors

have
come off. I think the cable is still electrically okay though.


- Rod Speed -
Best to replace it.


- Nehmo -
Now you've got me worried. This drive stuff is so touchy, I think
I shouldn't use anything suspicious. I'll have to go out and buy a
ribbon somewhere. There's no place open around here. I live right
in downtown Kansas City, Kansas, but the downtown is blighted.


Yeah, seen it on that Trauma series.

- Nehmo -
He wasn't familiar with XXCLONE.

- Rod Speed -
Yeah, its only been released for a few weeks now.
You appeared to be saying that you had used xxclone successfully.
Isnt it working properly now that the acpi problem is fixed ?


- Nehmo -
According to what XXCLONE tells the user, one disk is successfully
copied to the other. After the XXCLONE completes process, it brags
that the new drive is ready and can boot all on its own. I changed
to jumpers to make the new drive master and the old slave, and
I changed the positions of the drives on the cable: new drive=end,
old drive=middle. I left the old drive unplugged for the first boot up.


It took three attempts to boot up. The BIOS provided different
screens, I don't remember exactly, but the last one had three
options for locations of the OS, I think it was disk 0, p
(apparently for partition) 1. Then Windows started.


Yeah, different bios do things differently
on specifying what to boot from.

I couldn't get into System Restore. When I tried, a warning
popped up saying the app had encountered a problem and
needs to close - this was before it even opened. Additionally,
the shortcut icons for Word documents were changed to one
of the non-descript icons. I think it was the same as the one
Explorer uses for dat files. Clicking on these icons did cause
Word to start, but first it gave a warning that I should run
setup (I guess it means Office setup) and Repair. Then
Word would start, apparently normally.


OK, havent gotten around to trying xxclone myself yet,
or that other effect that Larry mentioned, that the order
of the drive numbers as seen in XP can make a difference
to whether a clone without removing the original for the
first boot after clone has been done makes a difference.

Although these problems seem fixable, Bret advised
me to abandon that HD copy and try again with Ghost.


Yeah, its certainly a more known quantity
since its been around for much longer.

I just installed Symantec Ghost Enterprise Edition.


Its a bit of a handful. If you dont find it obvious to
use, try Ghost 2003. Its usually available on kazaa


 




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