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  #16  
Old March 7th 10, 06:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Lem[_2_]
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Default Alternative Wireless Connection

Almost correct.

Wireless-N routers *are* compatible with Wireless-B and Wireless-G *but*
you must make sure that that you configure the router to enable that
functionality. For example, a typical Wireless-N router may be
configured as N, G, and B, B and G, N only, G only, or B only.

WPA2 capability depends on *both* software *and* hardware. Windows XP
added WPA2 software capability with update KB 893357 for Service Pack 2
(this update was included in Service Pack 3). If the netbook has SP3 or
SP2 plus KB 893357 and still can't access a WPA2 network, it's likely
that the wifi adapter hardware doesn't support it, although it's
possible that a firmware/driver update could add that capability. Some
older wifi adapters that can't do WPA2 may be able to use WPA-PSK (AES),
which is pretty much the same as WPA2 in terms of crackability. I have
a Linksys Wireless-G PC-Card that almost certainly antedates your
netbook and it implements WPA (AES) (but not WPA2).


ybS2okj wrote:
My replies are inline;

"Fred S *****" "Fred wrote in message
...
hth,


My daughter has a Netbook, which only uses wireless "b" or "G" and not "N"
which (SEE original post) is what I have now and want to keep. Also, my
daughter's LT doesn't have WPA2 either. She cannot connect as it is now.


It doesn't matter at all what she has. Her wireless card will work with "N"
router because router will be backwards compatible. Also, if she has SP2
(minimum requirement) on her Windows XP then SHE HAS WPA2 because this was
implemented in SP2 by Microsoft http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357.

I don't want my regular connection to have both "G" and "N" enabled, I
don't want a lower security setting to accommodate her machine except when
she visits. When she leaves, I want to go back to my "good setup."


Your regualr connection has already got Both "G" and "N" enabled because
your router is backward compatible. Your setup will remain as it is except
that she will have a key on her laptop until you decide to change again.
You have said you don't want to change so there is no problem here.

The router software lets you save and restore a configuration, so the idea
is to make two of them and then simply restore the one I want whenever I
want. It would be fast and efficient if it works.


It is very bad policy to constantly meddle with routers because you are
likely to forget the security issues and then you will be f***ed up. Leave
the router as it is; it is not something you keep changing all the time.


So that's what this is all about - I think it should work but I don't know
and that's why I'm asking here.


No it can't work. A router can have only one SSID and related credentials
going with it. You can't store two SSIDs in the router; It is not possible
unless something new comes out but it is unlikely because routers are left
alone; They are not something you keep changing like you change your
clothes after every shower.

I need to know if I can create the second setup, use it with my own LT and
have my daughter use it too. Be able to still use my shared drive and
shared printer as before on BOTH setups. THEN, after she leaves, restore
back to my original setup with "N" only and better security.


No you can't automatically but you can do it manually like the one you have
already set it up on your current system.





--
Lem

Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html
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  #17  
Old March 7th 10, 06:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Lem[_2_]
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Posts: 1,218
Default Alternative Wireless Connection

Almost correct.

Wireless-N routers *are* compatible with Wireless-B and Wireless-G *but*
you must make sure that that you configure the router to enable that
functionality. For example, a typical Wireless-N router may be
configured as N, G, and B, B and G, N only, G only, or B only.

WPA2 capability depends on *both* software *and* hardware. Windows XP
added WPA2 software capability with update KB 893357 for Service Pack 2
(this update was included in Service Pack 3). If the netbook has SP3 or
SP2 plus KB 893357 and still can't access a WPA2 network, it's likely
that the wifi adapter hardware doesn't support it, although it's
possible that a firmware/driver update could add that capability. Some
older wifi adapters that can't do WPA2 may be able to use WPA-PSK (AES),
which is pretty much the same as WPA2 in terms of crackability. I have
a Linksys Wireless-G PC-Card that almost certainly antedates your
netbook and it implements WPA (AES) (but not WPA2).


ybS2okj wrote:
My replies are inline;

"Fred S *****" "Fred wrote in message
...
hth,


My daughter has a Netbook, which only uses wireless "b" or "G" and not "N"
which (SEE original post) is what I have now and want to keep. Also, my
daughter's LT doesn't have WPA2 either. She cannot connect as it is now.


It doesn't matter at all what she has. Her wireless card will work with "N"
router because router will be backwards compatible. Also, if she has SP2
(minimum requirement) on her Windows XP then SHE HAS WPA2 because this was
implemented in SP2 by Microsoft http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357.

I don't want my regular connection to have both "G" and "N" enabled, I
don't want a lower security setting to accommodate her machine except when
she visits. When she leaves, I want to go back to my "good setup."


Your regualr connection has already got Both "G" and "N" enabled because
your router is backward compatible. Your setup will remain as it is except
that she will have a key on her laptop until you decide to change again.
You have said you don't want to change so there is no problem here.

The router software lets you save and restore a configuration, so the idea
is to make two of them and then simply restore the one I want whenever I
want. It would be fast and efficient if it works.


It is very bad policy to constantly meddle with routers because you are
likely to forget the security issues and then you will be f***ed up. Leave
the router as it is; it is not something you keep changing all the time.


So that's what this is all about - I think it should work but I don't know
and that's why I'm asking here.


No it can't work. A router can have only one SSID and related credentials
going with it. You can't store two SSIDs in the router; It is not possible
unless something new comes out but it is unlikely because routers are left
alone; They are not something you keep changing like you change your
clothes after every shower.

I need to know if I can create the second setup, use it with my own LT and
have my daughter use it too. Be able to still use my shared drive and
shared printer as before on BOTH setups. THEN, after she leaves, restore
back to my original setup with "N" only and better security.


No you can't automatically but you can do it manually like the one you have
already set it up on your current system.





--
Lem

Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html
  #18  
Old March 7th 10, 07:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Fred S *****
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Default Alternative Wireless Connection

Lem,

Thanks for your comments. I thought this was the case as my daughter
could not log on to my wireless connection as it was.

Hence, the reason for my Alternative Connection for temporary usage
during visits.

Creating backups of my original and the alternate configurations gives
me a fast and efficient way of enabling a connection for her when needed.

Fred


Lem wrote:
Almost correct.

Wireless-N routers *are* compatible with Wireless-B and Wireless-G *but*
you must make sure that that you configure the router to enable that
functionality. For example, a typical Wireless-N router may be
configured as N, G, and B, B and G, N only, G only, or B only.

WPA2 capability depends on *both* software *and* hardware. Windows XP
added WPA2 software capability with update KB 893357 for Service Pack 2
(this update was included in Service Pack 3). If the netbook has SP3 or
SP2 plus KB 893357 and still can't access a WPA2 network, it's likely
that the wifi adapter hardware doesn't support it, although it's
possible that a firmware/driver update could add that capability. Some
older wifi adapters that can't do WPA2 may be able to use WPA-PSK (AES),
which is pretty much the same as WPA2 in terms of crackability. I have
a Linksys Wireless-G PC-Card that almost certainly antedates your
netbook and it implements WPA (AES) (but not WPA2).


ybS2okj wrote:
My replies are inline;

"Fred S *****" "Fred wrote in message
...
hth,


My daughter has a Netbook, which only uses wireless "b" or "G" and
not "N" which (SEE original post) is what I have now and want to
keep. Also, my daughter's LT doesn't have WPA2 either. She cannot
connect as it is now.


It doesn't matter at all what she has. Her wireless card will work
with "N" router because router will be backwards compatible. Also, if
she has SP2 (minimum requirement) on her Windows XP then SHE HAS WPA2
because this was implemented in SP2 by Microsoft
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357.

I don't want my regular connection to have both "G" and "N" enabled,
I don't want a lower security setting to accommodate her machine
except when she visits. When she leaves, I want to go back to my
"good setup."


Your regualr connection has already got Both "G" and "N" enabled
because your router is backward compatible. Your setup will remain as
it is except that she will have a key on her laptop until you decide
to change again. You have said you don't want to change so there is no
problem here.

The router software lets you save and restore a configuration, so the
idea is to make two of them and then simply restore the one I want
whenever I want. It would be fast and efficient if it works.


It is very bad policy to constantly meddle with routers because you
are likely to forget the security issues and then you will be f***ed
up. Leave the router as it is; it is not something you keep changing
all the time.


So that's what this is all about - I think it should work but I don't
know and that's why I'm asking here.


No it can't work. A router can have only one SSID and related
credentials going with it. You can't store two SSIDs in the router;
It is not possible unless something new comes out but it is unlikely
because routers are left alone; They are not something you keep
changing like you change your clothes after every shower.

I need to know if I can create the second setup, use it with my own
LT and have my daughter use it too. Be able to still use my shared
drive and shared printer as before on BOTH setups. THEN, after she
leaves, restore back to my original setup with "N" only and better
security.


No you can't automatically but you can do it manually like the one you
have already set it up on your current system.





  #19  
Old March 7th 10, 07:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Fred S *****
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Posts: 81
Default Alternative Wireless Connection


Lem,

Thanks for your comments. I thought this was the case as my daughter
could not log on to my wireless connection as it was.

Hence, the reason for my Alternative Connection for temporary usage
during visits.

Creating backups of my original and the alternate configurations gives
me a fast and efficient way of enabling a connection for her when needed.

Fred


Lem wrote:
Almost correct.

Wireless-N routers *are* compatible with Wireless-B and Wireless-G *but*
you must make sure that that you configure the router to enable that
functionality. For example, a typical Wireless-N router may be
configured as N, G, and B, B and G, N only, G only, or B only.

WPA2 capability depends on *both* software *and* hardware. Windows XP
added WPA2 software capability with update KB 893357 for Service Pack 2
(this update was included in Service Pack 3). If the netbook has SP3 or
SP2 plus KB 893357 and still can't access a WPA2 network, it's likely
that the wifi adapter hardware doesn't support it, although it's
possible that a firmware/driver update could add that capability. Some
older wifi adapters that can't do WPA2 may be able to use WPA-PSK (AES),
which is pretty much the same as WPA2 in terms of crackability. I have
a Linksys Wireless-G PC-Card that almost certainly antedates your
netbook and it implements WPA (AES) (but not WPA2).


ybS2okj wrote:
My replies are inline;

"Fred S *****" "Fred wrote in message
...
hth,


My daughter has a Netbook, which only uses wireless "b" or "G" and
not "N" which (SEE original post) is what I have now and want to
keep. Also, my daughter's LT doesn't have WPA2 either. She cannot
connect as it is now.


It doesn't matter at all what she has. Her wireless card will work
with "N" router because router will be backwards compatible. Also, if
she has SP2 (minimum requirement) on her Windows XP then SHE HAS WPA2
because this was implemented in SP2 by Microsoft
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357.

I don't want my regular connection to have both "G" and "N" enabled,
I don't want a lower security setting to accommodate her machine
except when she visits. When she leaves, I want to go back to my
"good setup."


Your regualr connection has already got Both "G" and "N" enabled
because your router is backward compatible. Your setup will remain as
it is except that she will have a key on her laptop until you decide
to change again. You have said you don't want to change so there is no
problem here.

The router software lets you save and restore a configuration, so the
idea is to make two of them and then simply restore the one I want
whenever I want. It would be fast and efficient if it works.


It is very bad policy to constantly meddle with routers because you
are likely to forget the security issues and then you will be f***ed
up. Leave the router as it is; it is not something you keep changing
all the time.


So that's what this is all about - I think it should work but I don't
know and that's why I'm asking here.


No it can't work. A router can have only one SSID and related
credentials going with it. You can't store two SSIDs in the router;
It is not possible unless something new comes out but it is unlikely
because routers are left alone; They are not something you keep
changing like you change your clothes after every shower.

I need to know if I can create the second setup, use it with my own
LT and have my daughter use it too. Be able to still use my shared
drive and shared printer as before on BOTH setups. THEN, after she
leaves, restore back to my original setup with "N" only and better
security.


No you can't automatically but you can do it manually like the one you
have already set it up on your current system.





 




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