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  #46  
Old April 6th 15, 03:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ann Watson[_5_]
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On 05/04/2015 9:47 PM, choro wrote:
PROBLEM I REPORTED WAS SOLVED CROPPED UP AGAIN AND WITH A VENGEANCE!!!
Read on...

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running. Cost me a lot of time and
wasted effort trying anything I could think of. The only way I could get
Firefox to start again after being turned off was EITHER to reinstall it
OR Restart the computer. But I need Firefox for running a program that
Google Chrome has banned! It just won't allow IDM to run off Google
Chrome with Google accusing IDM of everything that Google is so famously
notorious about -- spying on users!!!

Finally I decided that the culprit must be the latest versions of
Firefox. SO, I installed version 34 instead and for the time being it is
working perfectly. No misbehaving! But I'll keep my fingers crossed.

So much for the so-called updates that tend to mess things up. I have
naturally configured Firefox NOT to update in any shape or form.



It would help to know what your newsreader is and what add-ons you have
in Firefox. I've been daring to use the betas of Firefox on Windows 7
for a long time and have very rarely had any problems opening urls from
my e-mail/newsreader client.

The Adobe flash plug-in for Firefox though can really hang Firefox,
requiring killing of the process(es) in Task Manager.

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  #47  
Old April 6th 15, 05:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
choro
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On 06/04/2015 15:36, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:47:43 +0100, choro wrote:

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running.


If I fill in the missing pieces of the story, is it safe to assume that
Firefox is working perfectly well for you in every way EXCEPT integration
with your Usenet newsreader?

If so, it doesn't sound like a Firefox issue at all.

Cost me a lot of time and
wasted effort trying anything I could think of. The only way I could get
Firefox to start again after being turned off was EITHER to reinstall it
OR Restart the computer.


By "start again", are you still referring to its integration with your
newsreader, or is the problem bigger than that? And what do you mean by
"turned off"? Are you using File-Exit, the X in the right corner, or Task
Manager to kill its process? How are you turning it off?

But I need Firefox for running a program that
Google Chrome has banned! It just won't allow IDM to run off Google
Chrome with Google accusing IDM of everything that Google is so famously
notorious about -- spying on users!!!


The only IDM I know about is Internet Download Manager, but that's not a
program. It's only a download manager, one of many, I might add, so I assume
you must be talking about something else.

Finally I decided that the culprit must be the latest versions of
Firefox. SO, I installed version 34 instead and for the time being it is
working perfectly. No misbehaving! But I'll keep my fingers crossed.

So much for the so-called updates that tend to mess things up. I have
naturally configured Firefox NOT to update in any shape or form.


So far, it doesn't look like a Firefox issue, but I may be missing some key
info.


You are absolutely right. It is *NOT* a Firefox issue at all. *It was
caused by the ScreenCaptor Add-on*. I am back on the latest version of
Firefox SANS ScreenCaptor which I have replaced with *Nimbus Screen
Capture* for Firefox and the problem has actually disappeared.

I wish these Add-ons were a bit more thoroughly tested before being
released to the general computer users to wreak havoc on one's nerves!!!
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  #48  
Old April 6th 15, 05:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
choro
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FIREFOX MISBEHAVIOR PROBLEM RESOLVED AT LONG LAST...

The culprit, as I have discovered, was the ScreenCaptor Add-on which I
have replaced with Nimbus Screen Capture which doesn't cause Firefox to
misbehave. Also I am back on the latest version of Firefox. Feeling
relieved at long last!!!

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On 06/04/2015 02:47, choro wrote:
PROBLEM I REPORTED WAS SOLVED CROPPED UP AGAIN AND WITH A VENGEANCE!!!
Read on...

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running. Cost me a lot of time and
wasted effort trying anything I could think of. The only way I could get
Firefox to start again after being turned off was EITHER to reinstall it
OR Restart the computer. But I need Firefox for running a program that
Google Chrome has banned! It just won't allow IDM to run off Google
Chrome with Google accusing IDM of everything that Google is so famously
notorious about -- spying on users!!!

Finally I decided that the culprit must be the latest versions of
Firefox. SO, I installed version 34 instead and for the time being it is
working perfectly. No misbehaving! But I'll keep my fingers crossed.

So much for the so-called updates that tend to mess things up. I have
naturally configured Firefox NOT to update in any shape or form.

--
choro
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On 31/03/2015 00:44, choro wrote:
On 30/03/2015 21:44, VanguardLH wrote:
choro wrote:

Recently Mozilla Firefox has started misbehaving on my Windows 7 Pro
machine. Both Windows and Firefox fully updated.

Firefox will function normally until it is x'ed off. After that it
refuses to restart and although it is my default browser when I tick a
link it refuses to start and link up. I have a sneaking suspicion that
this is a clash between the latest updates of Windows 7 and Firefox
because until recently everything ran very smoothly and suddenly
Firefox
started refusing to re-start. It won't even start when I click my
desktop shortcut let alone start when I click a link on the Usenet.

Any others with this problem? Firefox is OK after I first start the
machine or do a restart. But once I click Firefox off, that's it. It
will NOT come up again until a Restart or until I turn my mahine off
and
then on again.

Add-ons you install will affect the parent process. If an add-on hangs
or crashes when it loads, it will hang or crash Firefox. If an add-on
hangs or crashes when unloaded, it will hang or crash Firefox. Chromium
circumvented this dependency by using separate processes for each tab;
however, that means reloading the same add-on for each tab so if you
have a lot of add-ons and a lot of tabs then they consume memory for all
the duplicate instances of the add-ons. Still, Google Chrome will
likely only crash a tab's process instead of the web browser itself. (I
don't care for Google Chrome and it still has security features missing,
like disabling meta-refresh and letting me see to where a site wants to
redirect me. Both Firefox and Internet Explorer are susceptible to
crappy add-ons either because of poor coding or eventual incompatibility
with newer versions of the web browsers.

More likely you left old versions of add-ons installed as you progressed
through multiple newer versions of Firefox. Add-ons test during their
install if they are within a version range, not after they have been
installed. Do an update check on your add-ons to find out if there are
newer version of them. Else, disable all add-ons by using Firefox's
safe mode and retest. If Firefox behaves after disabling add-ons then
you'll have to disable them all and reenable them one at a time to
retest when the bad behavior returns and then get rid of that add-on.
Although Mozilla claims to review the code for add-ons they proffer at
their add-on site, there are still a ton of crappy add-ons and lots of
add-ons that conflict with each other plus those that don't work under
later versions of Firefox.

See if Firefox's safe mode eliminate the problem. If so, you have your
clue as to the culprit.


Thanx for your detailed explanation which I found useful. I have finally
sorted things out and my F/Fx seems to be behaving at least for the time
being. Here is what procedure I followed which I posted in response to
another suggestion. It may be a duplication but I'll post it here as
well.

Remainder of my message is a Copy and Paste job from a bit higher up the
thread..

Cleared F/Fx cache first. It still refused to start after sex. ;-)

(I mean x off!). I feel at this stage I should have restarted the
machine and try F/Fx again but I didn't.

Anyway, then I disabled all add-ons and enabled more or less all the

add-ons one by one. Everything seems to be running smoothly for the time
being. Though I believe all the add-ons that I have re-enabled had been
enabled earlier when F/Fx was misbehaving. One or two add-ons are still
disabled but I think those were actually disabled to begin with.

Problem soved but the enigma remains! So I decided not to trouble

trouble any further.

All's well that ends well, as they say. Thanks to everybody for all

your helpful suggestions.
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  #49  
Old April 6th 15, 06:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Barnes[_2_]
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choro wrote:
I wish these Add-ons were a bit more thoroughly tested before being
released to the general computer users to wreak havoc on one's nerves!!!


Quite so. If I were you, I'd demand a refund. :-)

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Cheshire, England
  #50  
Old April 6th 15, 08:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
choro
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Default Firefox problem on Windows 7

On 06/04/2015 18:54, Mike Barnes wrote:
choro wrote:
I wish these Add-ons were a bit more thoroughly tested before being
released to the general computer users to wreak havoc on one's nerves!!!


Quite so. If I were you, I'd demand a refund. :-)


What's a *Cheshire Cat* BTW? ;-)
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  #51  
Old April 6th 15, 08:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 06-Apr-2015 15:30, choro wrote:
Cheshire Cat


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat
  #52  
Old April 7th 15, 02:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:36:42 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:47:43 +0100, choro wrote:

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running.


If I fill in the missing pieces of the story, is it safe to assume that
Firefox is working perfectly well for you in every way EXCEPT integration
with your Usenet newsreader?

If so, it doesn't sound like a Firefox issue at all.


Firefox, being open source, and perhaps be updated by people who use
different newsreaders etc, and its behaviour varies from one update to
the next.

If I click on a URL in an e-mail message or newsgroup , various things
can happen.

1. It loads Firefox and opens the page (rare).
2. It loads two instances of Firefox, one with a blank page and the
other with the page requested (most common).
3. Nothing. You have to have Firefox already running before it will
open a URL.
4. Even if Firefox is already running, it won't open the URL. You have
to copy it and paste it into Firefox to achieve that.

No sooner does an update come along that behaves as in (1) than
someone "fixes" it so that it behaves in one of the other ways.

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Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
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  #53  
Old April 7th 15, 03:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:30:08 +0100, choro wrote:

On 06/04/2015 18:54, Mike Barnes wrote:
choro wrote:
I wish these Add-ons were a bit more thoroughly tested before being
released to the general computer users to wreak havoc on one's nerves!!!


Quite so. If I were you, I'd demand a refund. :-)


What's a *Cheshire Cat* BTW? ;-)


An ancestor of the Unitary Authority of Warrington cat.


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Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
  #54  
Old April 7th 15, 03:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Firefox problem on Windows 7

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:59:40 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:36:42 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:47:43 +0100, choro wrote:

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running.


If I fill in the missing pieces of the story, is it safe to assume that
Firefox is working perfectly well for you in every way EXCEPT integration
with your Usenet newsreader?

If so, it doesn't sound like a Firefox issue at all.


Firefox, being open source, and perhaps be updated by people who use
different newsreaders etc, and its behaviour varies from one update to
the next.

If I click on a URL in an e-mail message or newsgroup , various things
can happen.

1. It loads Firefox and opens the page (rare).
2. It loads two instances of Firefox, one with a blank page and the
other with the page requested (most common).
3. Nothing. You have to have Firefox already running before it will
open a URL.
4. Even if Firefox is already running, it won't open the URL. You have
to copy it and paste it into Firefox to achieve that.

No sooner does an update come along that behaves as in (1) than
someone "fixes" it so that it behaves in one of the other ways.


In the years that I've used browsers, whether it be early versions of IE,
Netscape, Firefox, what have you, I have only encountered two behaviors:

1. If the default browser is already running, the URL that I clicked will
cause a new window (or a new tab, if the browser supports tabs, as Firefox
does), to open at that address. Always repeatable and predictable.

2. If the default browser is not running, clicking a URL will cause the
default browser to launch to the URL that I clicked. Again, this behavior is
totally repeatable and predictable.

I've never seen any of the other behaviors listed above, going all the way
back to long before Firefox was developed.

If it helps, this is my current browser launch string, as configured in
Agent:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe "%1"

The weird behaviors described above appear to indicate that the browser
launch string is misconfigured in some way.

--

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  #55  
Old April 7th 15, 04:05 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:48:01 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:59:40 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:36:42 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:47:43 +0100, choro wrote:

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running.

If I fill in the missing pieces of the story, is it safe to assume that
Firefox is working perfectly well for you in every way EXCEPT integration
with your Usenet newsreader?

If so, it doesn't sound like a Firefox issue at all.


Firefox, being open source, and perhaps be updated by people who use
different newsreaders etc, and its behaviour varies from one update to
the next.

If I click on a URL in an e-mail message or newsgroup , various things
can happen.

1. It loads Firefox and opens the page (rare).
2. It loads two instances of Firefox, one with a blank page and the
other with the page requested (most common).
3. Nothing. You have to have Firefox already running before it will
open a URL.
4. Even if Firefox is already running, it won't open the URL. You have
to copy it and paste it into Firefox to achieve that.

No sooner does an update come along that behaves as in (1) than
someone "fixes" it so that it behaves in one of the other ways.


In the years that I've used browsers, whether it be early versions of IE,
Netscape, Firefox, what have you, I have only encountered two behaviors:

1. If the default browser is already running, the URL that I clicked will
cause a new window (or a new tab, if the browser supports tabs, as Firefox
does), to open at that address. Always repeatable and predictable.

2. If the default browser is not running, clicking a URL will cause the
default browser to launch to the URL that I clicked. Again, this behavior is
totally repeatable and predictable.

I've never seen any of the other behaviors listed above, going all the way
back to long before Firefox was developed.

If it helps, this is my current browser launch string, as configured in
Agent:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe "%1"

The weird behaviors described above appear to indicate that the browser
launch string is misconfigured in some way.


Other than not having Agent to check, I completely agree with your post.

I don't see a way to view (or to set) a browser launch string in Dialog.
Presumably it launches the default browser, period...

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  #56  
Old April 7th 15, 03:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:05:34 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:48:01 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:59:40 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:36:42 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 02:47:43 +0100, choro wrote:

After I reported problem solved, it came back with a vengeance only a
few hours later. Forget about it not responding AFTER I had turned
Firefox off, Firefox (latest edition) refused to open any URL from
newsgroups EVEN WHILE it was up and running.

If I fill in the missing pieces of the story, is it safe to assume that
Firefox is working perfectly well for you in every way EXCEPT integration
with your Usenet newsreader?

If so, it doesn't sound like a Firefox issue at all.

Firefox, being open source, and perhaps be updated by people who use
different newsreaders etc, and its behaviour varies from one update to
the next.

If I click on a URL in an e-mail message or newsgroup , various things
can happen.

1. It loads Firefox and opens the page (rare).
2. It loads two instances of Firefox, one with a blank page and the
other with the page requested (most common).
3. Nothing. You have to have Firefox already running before it will
open a URL.
4. Even if Firefox is already running, it won't open the URL. You have
to copy it and paste it into Firefox to achieve that.

No sooner does an update come along that behaves as in (1) than
someone "fixes" it so that it behaves in one of the other ways.


In the years that I've used browsers, whether it be early versions of IE,
Netscape, Firefox, what have you, I have only encountered two behaviors:

1. If the default browser is already running, the URL that I clicked will
cause a new window (or a new tab, if the browser supports tabs, as Firefox
does), to open at that address. Always repeatable and predictable.

2. If the default browser is not running, clicking a URL will cause the
default browser to launch to the URL that I clicked. Again, this behavior is
totally repeatable and predictable.

I've never seen any of the other behaviors listed above, going all the way
back to long before Firefox was developed.

If it helps, this is my current browser launch string, as configured in
Agent:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe "%1"

The weird behaviors described above appear to indicate that the browser
launch string is misconfigured in some way.


Other than not having Agent to check, I completely agree with your post.

I don't see a way to view (or to set) a browser launch string in Dialog.
Presumably it launches the default browser, period...


That's probably a good assumption. I'm using Agent 2.0, copyright 2004, and
it's a manual config step here.

--

Char Jackson
 




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