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Well I still have no audio.
I installed one of the Linux Ubuntu CD's I stored away after playing with that OS in 2010-2011. I think they must be the so-called LiveCDs, but I just don't remember. I chose version 10-11, which is shown to no longer to be supported, worse luck. I can get no sound from the installation on a clean HDD. Not from Banshee or any. I notice from the settings that it would seem Ubuntu thinks I do not have rear speakers, just front. Of course I plugged my earphones, and then a set of speakers, to each of my two audio plugs on the front of the case. Still no sound. So - unless someone has a new and/or different idea, I will go on the assumption that somehow the mobo rear audio has become defunct, and unless I can find some cable disconnect or mis-plugging, I will just have to wait and hope the Chinese sound card I ordered will by-pass the audio problem. Otherwise I will have to spring for a new mobo. Ugh! So-much for MSI. I am pretty sure I read of others having sound problems with this mobo. Thanks for all your helps and suggestions. It is great to know I can seek help on any problems. And get it. JW |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2015 06:10:36 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 23:25:18 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 16:23:02 -0600, "Buffalo" wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Your attribution line is broken on your last two posts. See above, the user name has gone missing. You have nothing to apologize for, Char's comment was directed to "Buffalo". However, if Char really cared, he would have looked up the quoted message from the message id's. Odds are he was playing Usenet cop, trying to "teach" Buffalo the "right way" of doing things. I was letting Buffalo know that his config suddenly broke. Sometimes people like to know these things. Geez. Another bug in Windows Live Mail. Who knew ? I wonder if this is a side-effect of something like WLMQuoteFix ? http://www.w7forums.com/threads/wlm-quotefix.11437/ Paul |
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"Stormin' Norman" wrote in message
... On Wed, 27 May 2015 23:25:18 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 16:23:02 -0600, "Buffalo" wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Your attribution line is broken on your last two posts. See above, the user name has gone missing. You have nothing to apologize for, Char's comment was directed to "Buffalo". However, if Char really cared, he would have looked up the quoted message from the message id's. Odds are he was playing Usenet cop, trying to "teach" Buffalo the "right way" of doing things. I am still using WinQuoteFix with WinLive and I fail to see the problem. If there is one, please let me know. When I review my posts, all seems normal, including my sig. Thanks, -- Buffalo |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 16:40:18 -0600, "Buffalo"
wrote: I am still using WinQuoteFix with WinLive and I fail to see the problem. If there is one, please let me know. When I review my posts, all seems normal, including my sig. Thanks, This one was fine. Thanks for following up. I figured you'd want to know. -- Char Jackson |
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I am not sure why you have mentioned the 2nd machine? Have you tried creating a Linux live CD and booting the problematic machine with the CD? Live CDs are very easy to download and create, you do not need to install Linux. Simply by booting from the CD, you will usually be able to determine if the audio hardware is working. If the hardware is functional, then we will need to help you fix your Windows issue. If the hardware is not functional, you can stop beating your head against the wall and wait for the replacement sound board. As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. Thanks JW I tried a couple of LiveCDs on the new machine. One of them (SystemRescueCD) wouldn't boot at all. But this one did. This is the infrequently generated Gentoo LiveDVD. (2,961,100,800 bytes). It's a porker. New to this release, you don't get to see it try 300 different drivers on your hardware. And there was a pregnant pause on my system, before the DVD LED started to flash - but that's only going to happen on my system. http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ge...md64/20140826/ livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso 25-Aug-2014 01:57 2.8G You can boot it using the default in the boot menu. Open a Terminal. Type in "audacity" without the double-quote marks. Hit return. Under the Generate menu, select DTMF, to make some "Touch Tone noises" as a test. Set the amplitude field to 0.05 rather than accepting the default. That's to avoid "losing an eardrum". You can generate a waveform with a higher amplitude on a second try, if you want. After a couple seconds, the software will have created a new waveform file, containing DTMF tones. Now when you click Play, you should hear sound from the speakers. The Gentoo DVD seemed to be able to get the sound working. Which is more than I can say for some of the Ubuntu ones. I've had a number of the more popular distos, where the sound won't work out of the box. I could eventually get it working. Some of the others, were quite quite resistant to letting me have sound. The only caveat with the Gentoo DVD, was it didn't shut down properly. To avoid the usual suspects, in the same terminal you were working in, you could do sudo shutdown -r now That actually requests a reboot. When the machine proceeds to reboot, enter the BIOS setup on the computer. That will give you a chance to unload the optical drive tray, close the tray, then you can use the power button to turn off the PC. The problem with vanilla shutdown or poweroff, is you can be dropped to single user, and not be able to figure out a way to "escape". I've had better luck with a reboot escape, than any other option. Gentoo did provide a menu option (it was running what looked like KDE). But what I noticed, is it almost seemed like the old DBUS race condition, where the screen turns black, then DBUS is disabled, the keyboard no longer works. You at that point, can no longer use the keyboard to do anything (if you were thinking some keyboard magic would work). That Gentoo DVD should be old enough (end of 2014), that it doesn't use systemd. I really really wanted to use a LiveCD that was a smaller download. But if the sound won't work or such smaller media won't actually boot, that kinda cramps my style. I was lucky that I didn't have to download the Gentoo one, as I had that one from some previous experiment. So it didn't cost me any additional download time. Paul |
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Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:46:30 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 16:02:30 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 07:20:09 -0700, Stormin' Norman Use your existing discs and try it again. This is the final diagnostic, if you have no sound under Linux, I believe we can pronounce the audio subsystem on the main board as being dead. That's what I thought. Again, I have a Chinese sound card coming. The cheapo sound card arrived (with drivers) - I installed it and its drivers - sound is fine now. So much for Realtek. Thanks all the helps I am glad it is resolved. I hope nothing else on that mainboard is destined for failure any time soon. HDAudio typically runs off its own 7805 style regulator. So if there was a power problem with that chip, no other chip depends on it. It can fail quietly all by itself, with nothing else affected. As for the repair method, nothing wrong with throwing in more hardware... as long as it works. There was at least one motherboard, that when sound failed, the issue was actually a motherboard standoff (ground potential), touching a conductor of the sound circuit. And that can be fixed by aligning the standoffs carefully with the center of the drilled mounting holes. Some component or conductor was a little too close to the hole (keepout violation). Paul |
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 07:48:40 -0700, Stormin' Norman
wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:13:15 -0400, Paul wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:46:30 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 16:02:30 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015 07:20:09 -0700, Stormin' Norman Use your existing discs and try it again. This is the final diagnostic, if you have no sound under Linux, I believe we can pronounce the audio subsystem on the main board as being dead. That's what I thought. Again, I have a Chinese sound card coming. The cheapo sound card arrived (with drivers) - I installed it and its drivers - sound is fine now. So much for Realtek. Thanks all the helps I am glad it is resolved. I hope nothing else on that mainboard is destined for failure any time soon. HDAudio typically runs off its own 7805 style regulator. So if there was a power problem with that chip, no other chip depends on it. It can fail quietly all by itself, with nothing else affected. Paul, if he has a flaky PSU which might be throwing intermittent transients, he could very well experience issues with other subsystems. Considering his audio subsystem died at the same time an optical disk drive died, one would be justified in harboring reservations about the overall stability of the entire system. Personally, I would install a replacement, new, quality PSU, and throw the existing one onto the "I have to test that eventually" pile. Regardless, he is up and running and I "hope" it stays that way, for his sake. Me too. I thought my PSU was a 'quality' PSU. It is a Cooler Master 650W. I spent extra money for it, when I bought the mobo. Thanks JW |
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