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  #91  
Old September 25th 18, 11:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:20:36 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.


And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.


tuning = intentionally altering the sound.


As I understand the objective is to better reproduce the original
analog wave form from the digital data. Of course improving the
reproduction of the original wave form will alter the sound.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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  #92  
Old September 25th 18, 04:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.

And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.


tuning = intentionally altering the sound.


As I understand the objective is to better reproduce the original
analog wave form from the digital data. Of course improving the
reproduction of the original wave form will alter the sound.


which is what i originally said. the difference is not the dac, but the
alterations, what you're calling tuning and which can be done outside
of a dac.
  #93  
Old September 25th 18, 04:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Wolf K
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You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.

And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.


tuning = intentionally altering the sound.


H'm. That implies that when auditorium designers fiddle with the
placement of reflective and absorptive surfaces they are "intentionally
altering the sound."


yep.
  #94  
Old September 26th 18, 01:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:59:03 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.

And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.

tuning = intentionally altering the sound.


As I understand the objective is to better reproduce the original
analog wave form from the digital data. Of course improving the
reproduction of the original wave form will alter the sound.


which is what i originally said. the difference is not the dac, but the
alterations, what you're calling tuning and which can be done outside
of a dac.


The DAC's output is analog. The tuning I am referring to takes place
inside the DAC.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #95  
Old September 26th 18, 02:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.

And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.

tuning = intentionally altering the sound.

As I understand the objective is to better reproduce the original
analog wave form from the digital data. Of course improving the
reproduction of the original wave form will alter the sound.


which is what i originally said. the difference is not the dac, but the
alterations, what you're calling tuning and which can be done outside
of a dac.


The DAC's output is analog.


that's why the second letter is 'a'. digital-to-analog converter.

The tuning I am referring to takes place
inside the DAC.


unlikely, but regardless, it's an alteration which can be done outside
of the dac, either in the digital or analog domain, or both.
  #96  
Old September 26th 18, 10:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:37:48 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You would need a double blind test to reliably determine whether or
not it is possible to distinguish the Rega from the Arcam. But I find
that only a few seconds listening will tell me that I am listening to
the Roland. I also accept that you might not be able to hear the
distinction.

as i said, it's intentionally altering the sound, something you could
match with the other dacs. either that, or it's defective in some way.

it's a bit like 'canon colours' and 'nikon colours'. the cameras are
tuned slightly differently, but either one can be made to produce what
the other does.

And it's in the subtlties of tuning and the firmware of that that the
differences between DACS (and their costs) lie.

tuning = intentionally altering the sound.

As I understand the objective is to better reproduce the original
analog wave form from the digital data. Of course improving the
reproduction of the original wave form will alter the sound.

which is what i originally said. the difference is not the dac, but the
alterations, what you're calling tuning and which can be done outside
of a dac.


The DAC's output is analog.


that's why the second letter is 'a'. digital-to-analog converter.

The tuning I am referring to takes place
inside the DAC.


unlikely, but regardless, it's an alteration which can be done outside
of the dac, either in the digital or analog domain, or both.


A DAC gets fed with digital data. This defines the wave form in finite
steps. The job of the DAC is to output an analog wave form which is as
close as possible to the original analog signal. Turning digital data
into analog is not easy or straight-forward. That's why there are so
many ways of trying to do it.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #97  
Old September 26th 18, 12:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


The DAC's output is analog.


that's why the second letter is 'a'. digital-to-analog converter.

The tuning I am referring to takes place
inside the DAC.


unlikely, but regardless, it's an alteration which can be done outside
of the dac, either in the digital or analog domain, or both.


A DAC gets fed with digital data.


that's why the first letter is 'd', for *digital* to analog converter.

This defines the wave form in finite
steps. The job of the DAC is to output an analog wave form which is as
close as possible to the original analog signal. Turning digital data
into analog is not easy or straight-forward. That's why there are so
many ways of trying to do it.


it's very easy and very straightforward, and no, there aren't 'so many
ways', at least not correct ones.
 




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