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  #1  
Old March 5th 12, 08:25 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

I download ebooks using eMule and these come down without the usual
formatting (no margins), but the problem is that the following curious
symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“
etc.

Here is a passage with the curious glyphs well represented...

*****
But if you loved herâ€"if you “got†herâ€"you felt like you’d
joined a secret club, with its own code words and special signs and
degrees of initiation. It was a creed, in the words of one writer,
“as ardent as a religion,†and “a real appreciation of Emma,â€
her subtlest book of all, was “the final test of citizenship in her
kingdom.†Rudyard Kipling, very much a citizen himself, celebrated
the phenomenon in “The Janeites,†a story about Austen worship in,
of all places, the trenches of World War I. “Jane?†says
Humberstall, the simple-minded veteran at the heart of the storyâ€"
Why, she was a little old maid ’oo’d written ’alf a dozen books
about a hundred years ago. ’Twasn’t as if there was anythin’ to
them, either. I know. I had to read ’em. They weren’t
adventurous, nor smutty, nor what you’d call even
interestin’â€"all about girls o’ seventeen . . . , not certain
’oom they’d like to marry; an’ their dances an’ card-parties
an’ picnics, and their young blokes goin’ off to London on
’orseback for ’air-cuts an’ shaves. [Which is exactly what Frank
Churchill does in Emma.]
Yet once Humberstall was accepted into the brotherhoodâ€"“it’s a
very select Society, an’ you’ve got to be a Janeite in your
’eartâ€â€"he came to understand her true worth. “I read all her
six books now for pleasure ’tween times in the shop. . . . You take
it from me, Brethren, there’s no one to touch Jane when you’re in
a tight place. Gawd bless ’er, whoever she was.â€*
***
Can anyone explain what these are?
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  #2  
Old March 5th 12, 09:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Andy Burns
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

Peter Jason wrote:

I download ebooks


In which format(s)?

the problem is that the following curious
symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“
etc.

Can anyone explain what these are?


You typically see glitches like that where Word documents with
punctuation such as speech marks have been poorly exported (e.g. to
html) with wrong character encoding such as when they are UTF8, but
nothing says that in the document.
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Old March 5th 12, 09:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Williamson
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

Peter Jason wrote:
I download ebooks using eMule and these come down without the usual
formatting (no margins), but the problem is that the following curious
symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“
etc.

Here is a passage with the curious glyphs well represented...

*****
But if you loved herâ€"if you “got†herâ€"you felt like you’d
joined a secret club, with its own code words and special signs and
degrees of initiation. It was a creed, in the words of one writer,
“as ardent as a religion,†and “a real appreciation of Emma,â€
her subtlest book of all, was “the final test of citizenship in her
kingdom.†Rudyard Kipling, very much a citizen himself, celebrated
the phenomenon in “The Janeites,†a story about Austen worship in,
of all places, the trenches of World War I. “Jane?†says
Humberstall, the simple-minded veteran at the heart of the storyâ€"
Why, she was a little old maid ’oo’d written ’alf a dozen books
about a hundred years ago. ’Twasn’t as if there was anythin’ to
them, either. I know. I had to read ’em. They weren’t
adventurous, nor smutty, nor what you’d call even
interestin’â€"all about girls o’ seventeen . . . , not certain
’oom they’d like to marry; an’ their dances an’ card-parties
an’ picnics, and their young blokes goin’ off to London on
’orseback for ’air-cuts an’ shaves. [Which is exactly what Frank
Churchill does in Emma.]
Yet once Humberstall was accepted into the brotherhoodâ€"“it’s a
very select Society, an’ you’ve got to be a Janeite in your
’eartâ€â€"he came to understand her true worth. “I read all her
six books now for pleasure ’tween times in the shop. . . . You take
it from me, Brethren, there’s no one to touch Jane when you’re in
a tight place. Gawd bless ’er, whoever she was.â€*
***
Can anyone explain what these are?


You may need to make sure your browser can handle Unicode, or is able to
read the same code page as the source computer.

’ = '
â€" = "
And so on...

--
Tciao for Now!

John.
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Old March 5th 12, 11:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:25:48 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

I download ebooks using eMule and these come down without the usual
formatting (no margins), but the problem is that the following curious
symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“
etc.

Here is a passage with the curious glyphs well represented...


Probably has a different character set from your computer.

People sometimes send e-mails with that kind of junk in it, but I've never
managed to work out how to read it.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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Old March 5th 12, 11:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Andy Burns
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

Steve Hayes wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:25:48 +1100, Peter wrote:

symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“


I've never managed to work out how to read it.


You can paste them here and decode them
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/c...r/utf8-decoder
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Old March 5th 12, 06:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:33:40 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:25:48 +1100, Peter wrote:

symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“


I've never managed to work out how to read it.


You can paste them here and decode them
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/c...r/utf8-decoder


Be nice if it gave a plain ascii version too.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
  #7  
Old March 5th 12, 10:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Andy Burns
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:33:40 +0000, Andy
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:25:48 +1100, Peter wrote:

symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“

I've never managed to work out how to read it.


You can paste them here and decode them
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/c...r/utf8-decoder


Be nice if it gave a plain ascii version too.


it does output aa raw version, for the symbols above it gave

’s




unfortunately it won't take the full paragraph from the O/P and convert
that, I dare say there are other tools out there that can.
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Old March 6th 12, 01:20 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Weird symbols in downloaded ebook text.

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:04:48 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:33:40 +0000, Andy
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:

On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:25:48 +1100, Peter wrote:

symbols are scattered about at random in the body of the text. VIS:
’s
“
â€
†“

I've never managed to work out how to read it.

You can paste them here and decode them
http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/c...r/utf8-decoder


Be nice if it gave a plain ascii version too.


it does output aa raw version, for the symbols above it gave

’s




unfortunately it won't take the full paragraph from the O/P and convert
that, I dare say there are other tools out there that can.


Thanks, I find that only a few documents give the problem. I use:
http://www.avs4you.com/AVS-Document-Converter.aspx
to translate from epub to pdf format. This is rather slow for large
documents, and the program falters for some too. The format (margins
& paragraphs) of the final conversion seems to depend on the original
epub file because some convert with the expected format.

At the moment I am downloading other conversion sof****e that might
not give these errors.


P
 




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