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Windows Update to IE11
On 13/11/2013 00:31:06, Buffalo wrote:
"Robin Bignall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in 'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult. Any thoughts on this? When I went to a MS website, it said enhanced mode in IE11 will not work with Win 7. Well, I just tried Googling it and now I can't find that link. Does anyone know if it can actually be used in Win7 64bit? In the Windows Update window it says: Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems Download the fast and fluid browser recommended for windows 7 Fast. fast at loading sites and fluid as you navigate through them. Easy. Seamless with Windows, it just works the way you want. Safer. Better protection from threats and increased privacy online. -- mick |
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Windows Update to IE11
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "pjp" wrote in message ... Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to disable tabbed browsing. Idly curious, what don't you like about tabs? -- SC Tom Just my preference. I would rather have the different windows in the Taskbar than in tabs. It does have it's place. I use SlimBrowser for the MS forums only. For that, I have several forums set as separate tabs and all set as homepages so they all open when SlimBrowser is started. But, for regular browsing, I prefer no tabs. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP 2004 ~ 2010 Imperial Beach, CA |
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Windows Update to IE11
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:55:39 -0500, Chris S. wrote:
So people *please* stop using WLM and use a decent newsreader. Use a decent OS. Windows is lazy, geared towards non-computer peeps. "peeps".. says a lot about you. So does his blaming it on the OS, when it's clearly a function of a particular application. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Windows Update to IE11
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:48:05 +0000, John wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:08:27 -0000, "NY" wrote: "mick" wrote in message ... On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to test my website. My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it. Can't you just change the font so you have a non-blurry one? Or does IE-eleven do it with *every* font? I wouldn't know as I've never even seen "WLM" but I'm curious. Thanks. J. It just occurred to me that it might be a problem with ClearType, a software technique to use strategic blurring to make type clearer (yeah, I know!). -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Windows Update to IE11
On 2013-11-13, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:55:39 -0500, Chris S. wrote: So people *please* stop using WLM and use a decent newsreader. Use a decent OS. Windows is lazy, geared towards non-computer peeps. "peeps".. says a lot about you. So does his blaming it on the OS, when it's clearly a function of a particular application. It's clearly a function of the IQ of icon clickers. They aren't computer users. As the idiot that can't cut signatures from post clearly shows. Poorly designed software to meet the needs of idiots. lmao. Moronware. -- Many people are desperately looking for some wise advice which will recommend that they do what they want to do. |
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Windows Update to IE11
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:50:14 +0000, John wrote: But I did get IE 11 (yesterday). MS must be rolling it out in dribs & drabs. Maybe they want me to feel superior and you to feel inferior? Kidding, of course. They drew straws at Microsoft, and you got the short one :-) Will you be disabling the tabbed browsing setting ? We await your recipe. As a beta tester, it's the least you can do. Paul |
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Windows Update to IE11
Robin Bignall wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:47:37 -0400, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? I installed it today and Kaspersky's Password Manager told me to disable enhanced protection mode. The only protected mode I could see is in 'Security' in Internet Options, but unticking that gave me an immediate message that my PC would not be adequately protected. Win7Ult. Any thoughts on this? "Incompatibility of Kaspersky Password Manager 5.0 plug-ins with Internet Explorer 10/11 when Enhanced Protected Mode (EPM) is enabled" http://support.kaspersky.com/10576 http://support.kaspersky.com/images/...113-216259.png http://support.kaspersky.com/images/...213-216260.png Lots of stuff doesn't work with EPM. ******* EPM - what it is. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2...cted-mode.aspx Disable EPM with GPedit. http://www.ghacks.net/2013/09/11/tur...orer-10-newer/ I can't find any really up-to-date info though, to confirm GPedit is needed. And not some more reasonable solution. Paul |
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Windows Update to IE11
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:22:38 -0500, Paul wrote:
Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:50:14 +0000, John wrote: But I did get IE 11 (yesterday). MS must be rolling it out in dribs & drabs. Maybe they want me to feel superior and you to feel inferior? Kidding, of course. They drew straws at Microsoft, and you got the short one :-) Will you be disabling the tabbed browsing setting ? We await your recipe. As a beta tester, it's the least you can do. Paul To tell the truth (isn't that a TV show?), I can't see why anyone who doesn't use it cares whether tabbed browsing is allowed. If you don't like it, don't use it, aka "Duh!". I just tested IE11's behavior with respect to clicking on a link. I left-clicked on a link and the contents replaced the contents of the tab I was on. I then Control-clicked a link there and the new page opened in a new tab. So if you don't want a new tab, avoid Control-click, or equivalently, click Right-click followed by open in new tab, or Middle-button (I tested both of those). But since the Middle-button click might be something I configured in my mouse driver, YMMV. So don't control click, etc... However, I couldn't find a way to disable tabbed browsing. BTW - someone complained about links not being underlined. There is a setting for that in the advanced tab under Tools (gear icon)/Internet Options/Advanced. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Windows Update to IE11
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:17:42 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:22:38 -0500, Paul wrote: Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:50:14 +0000, John wrote: But I did get IE 11 (yesterday). MS must be rolling it out in dribs & drabs. Maybe they want me to feel superior and you to feel inferior? Kidding, of course. They drew straws at Microsoft, and you got the short one :-) Will you be disabling the tabbed browsing setting ? We await your recipe. As a beta tester, it's the least you can do. Paul To tell the truth (isn't that a TV show?), I can't see why anyone who doesn't use it cares whether tabbed browsing is allowed. If you don't like it, don't use it, aka "Duh!". I just tested IE11's behavior with respect to clicking on a link. I left-clicked on a link and the contents replaced the contents of the tab I was on. I then Control-clicked a link there and the new page opened in a new tab. So if you don't want a new tab, avoid Control-click, or equivalently, click Right-click followed by open in new tab, or Middle-button (I tested both of those). But since the Middle-button click might be something I configured in my mouse driver, YMMV. So don't control click, etc... However, I couldn't find a way to disable tabbed browsing. BTW - someone complained about links not being underlined. There is a setting for that in the advanced tab under Tools (gear icon)/Internet Options/Advanced. BTW, I just noticed an item in tool bar customization (right-click on the toolbar). It says "Show tabs in a separate row". FWIW. Mine is checked by default, and that's OK with me. By Toolbar I mean the top frame boundary regions above or below the address bar. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... "pjp" wrote in message ... Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to disable tabbed browsing. Idly curious, what don't you like about tabs? -- SC Tom Just my preference. I would rather have the different windows in the Taskbar than in tabs. It does have it's place. I use SlimBrowser for the MS forums only. For that, I have several forums set as separate tabs and all set as homepages so they all open when SlimBrowser is started. But, for regular browsing, I prefer no tabs. I respect your preference, was simply curious. I didn't like them when tabs were first introduced, but over the years have found them to be very useful. I think it's the easiest way to "multi-task" the internet LOL. Of course, that's *my* preference :-) -- SC Tom |
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Windows Update to IE11
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:18:12 -0700, XS11E wrote:
"Bruce Hagen" wrote: It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to disable tabbed browsing. +1 -1 I currently have 153 tabs open. What a mess it would be if I needed to have 153 separate instances on my taskbar. -- Char Jackson |
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Windows Update to IE11
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:18:12 -0700, XS11E wrote: "Bruce Hagen" wrote: It works fine for me, but................. I don't like tabbed browsing and unlike previous versions, there is no option to disable tabbed browsing. +1 -1 I currently have 153 tabs open. What a mess it would be if I needed to have 153 separate instances on my taskbar. -- Char Jackson Sounds pretty messy anyway. I think I'll play 153 for the daily number tomorrow. eg -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP 2004 ~ 2010 Imperial Beach, CA |
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Windows Update to IE11
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:17:42 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:22:38 -0500, Paul wrote: Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:50:14 +0000, John wrote: But I did get IE 11 (yesterday). MS must be rolling it out in dribs & drabs. Maybe they want me to feel superior and you to feel inferior? Kidding, of course. They drew straws at Microsoft, and you got the short one :-) Will you be disabling the tabbed browsing setting ? We await your recipe. As a beta tester, it's the least you can do. Paul To tell the truth (isn't that a TV show?), I can't see why anyone who doesn't use it cares whether tabbed browsing is allowed. If you don't like it, don't use it, aka "Duh!". I just tested IE11's behavior with respect to clicking on a link. I left-clicked on a link and the contents replaced the contents of the tab I was on. I then Control-clicked a link there and the new page opened in a new tab. So if you don't want a new tab, avoid Control-click, or equivalently, click Right-click followed by open in new tab, or Middle-button (I tested both of those). But since the Middle-button click might be something I configured in my mouse driver, YMMV. So don't control click, etc... However, I couldn't find a way to disable tabbed browsing. BTW - someone complained about links not being underlined. There is a setting for that in the advanced tab under Tools (gear icon)/Internet Options/Advanced. BTW, I just noticed an item in tool bar customization (right-click on the toolbar). It says "Show tabs in a separate row". FWIW. Mine is checked by default, and that's OK with me. By Toolbar I mean the top frame boundary regions above or below the address bar. -- Gene E. Bloch (Beta Bloch) See. You are a beta tester. It's even in your .sig :-) I got the impression from some other comments here, that the "tabs were unstoppable". But they were no match for your "click wizardry" :-) Paul |
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Windows Update to IE11
Paul wrote:
Paul wrote: Bob Henson wrote: On 12/11/2013 6:49 PM, Chris S. wrote: "Bob Henson" wrote in message ... On 12/11/2013 3:47 PM, pjp wrote: Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10? The test version was badly broken - but they may have fixed it for the release. I'm waiting for more comments before it goes on here. I tried it a few days ago. A couple of my financial sites balked. Told me my browser wasn't supported, or words to that effect. Removed IE 11. I'll wait until the world catches up! Chris That's what happened to me, except the sites didn't tell me anything, the just refused to respond. What obviously appeared to be (and were in Firefox) links remained steadfastly non-responsive - they didn't show the usual underline. I think that rather than the world catching up it is Internet Explorer 11 that needs to catch up - all though I'm not very technical, my guess is that HTML5 was involved and IE could not handle it yet. As Firefox *could* handle it, Internet Explorer 11 came off the system sharpish! It's a pity, because it did appear to be very quick now it firmly integrates itself into Windows again. I see here, that some users have already been through all of this. The only question that remains, is whether a User Agent hack would have any effect or not. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...page=~pagenum~ Paul The User-Agent approach in IE11 vs prior versions has changed though in Compatibility View it will mimic an IE7 U-A string See Eric Lawrence comments regarding IE11's Default UA String http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/...ko-webkit.aspx -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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