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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save
what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
"P Bentley" wrote in message
... Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. Unless bundled by the manufacturer, Windows 7 does not come with any e-mail client so you'll have to download one. Top 11 Free Email Programs for Windows http://email.about.com/od/windowsema...email_prog.htm These are the instructions for Windows Live Mail. Transferring data from Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail: For Messages: In Outlook Express, compact you folders first. Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until the compacting is completed. Compact Your OE Folders: http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact Copy the *ENTIRE* OE message store folder to a flash drive. (Folders.dbx must be included). Place this on the Desktop or other location on the machine using WLMail. V-2009: Open WLMail and: File | Import | Messages | Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and point to where you saved it. V-2011/2012: Menu Button | Import Messages | Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and point to where you saved it. OE Message Store Location: In OE: Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of your Outlook Express files. Write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer or, copy and paste it into Start | Run. In WinXP the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View. Note: If any DBX file is over 300MB, go back into OE and move some of the messages from the related folder to a new user created folder and compact again to get the file size down. For Addresses: Open the Address Book in OE and File | Export | Address Book (wab) and save it to the Desktop. Copy to a flash drive. Place this on the Desktop or other location on the machine using WLMail. For WLMail 2009: Open the Contacts list in WLMail, (Go | Contacts on the Menu Bar), and File | Import | Windows Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved it. For WLMail 2011/2012: Switch to the contacts window (click the address book icon at the foot of the folder pane, (or press Ctrl-3). Click the Import button, select Windows Address Book (wab) and point to where you saved it. Note: If you use a CD or DVD instead of a flash drive, after placing on the new machine you must remove the Read Only attribute in Properties before you import. For Account Settings: In OE: Tools | Accounts, select the account and export it to the Desktop. This will be a .iaf file. Copy it to the new machine's Desktop. For WLMail 2009: Tools | Accounts and import the settings from the location you saved them. For WLMail 2011: Menu Button | Options | E-Mail Accounts and import the settings from the location you saved them. Account settings may not import into WLMail 2012. If not, you will have to do it manually. -- ~Bruce |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:32:57 -0000, "P Bentley"
wrote: Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. I don't know enough about Outlook Express to answer your question, but let me make three points: 1. You've said nothing about what e-mail program he plans to use on Windows 7, and how to do what he wants depends at least in part on what he uses. In my view, you should not simply use whatever comes with an operating system, but rather should choose the one you like best. There are several choices, from Microsoft and from other companies, and free and for sale. 2. You say that he plans to install Windows 7 on the same computer. But you and he should both be aware that it's likely that his XP-era machine will be way underpowered to run Windows 7 with acceptable performance. He will need several hardware upgrades, and its likely that they will be expensive enough that he would be much better off simply buying a new computer. 3. Moving from XP to Windows 7 is moving from an operating system three generations old to one that's one generation old (soon to be two generations old). To me that makes very little sense. He should move to the current version, Windows 8, not an old one. If he's already decided that he doesn't like Windows 8, it's probable that he doesn't understand what it is, and that the modern/metro interface is entirely optional; he doesn't have to use it at all. |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
"P Bentley" wrote in message
... Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. Outlook Express stores each folder in a DBX file that can be copied elsewhe but their contents can be viewed only in OE. Outlook.com can collect and bundle folder contents and permit them to be viewed. Most Win7 distribution packages are preset to download and instal MS's MAIL.EXE, which is unable to import DBX files and is condemned by most people as much inferior to OE. Mozilla Thunderbird may be a practical alternative for Win7 -- but your novice friend should be told that nothing prevents his continuing to use WinXP and OE, so long as he is confident in his malware protection. This can go on indefinitely (or until he is obliged to replace some hardware and finds new hardware requires Win7 or higher.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
P Bentley wrote:
Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. From the tenor of the following paragraphs, I assume the 3rd person 'novice/he' above is also the 1st person 'I' below. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. You, presumably the novice he, are posting here with OE which means that you are accustomed to using the same email/newsagent program, of which Win7 has neither by default. One close approximation to a same email/newsagent which will work in Win7 (and XP) is Thunderbird. The current v. of WindowsLiveMail WLM is not an acceptable newsagent to use as you are using OE here, but Tb is. One strategy to migrate from OE to Tb is to install Tb on the XP machine which invites importation of the OE stores http://kb.mozillazine.org/Import_from_Outlook_Express There are two simple ways to migrate from Outlook Express to Thunderbird: ... select the "Outlook Express" option to import your mail, address books, and settings. Now you have an XP with a Tb profile. That strategy can also/alternatively be employed with a Portable Thunderbird. The next part of the strategy would be to move the Tb profile to the Win7 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder This article describes how to move a profile for your Mozilla application, if you want to do the following: - Configure another operating system account to use the same profile. -- Mike Easter |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
P Bentley wrote:
Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. Save what he can? And what is it that he wants to save? E-mail? Newsgroups? Or both? If he only needs to transfer e-mail from one e-mail client to another (whether on the same host using the same OS or to a different OS on a different host) then check if he is using IMAP to access his e-mail account(s). If so, just make sure all the e-mails are in IMAP folders and not in any local storage folders in OE. All he has to do is define the IMAP accounts in the new/second e-mail client to have it connect to the same accounts and all the e-mails will already be there. IMAP synchronizes the client to the server so both have a copy of the e-mail. For contacts, export them from the WAB (Windows Address Book) to save them at .vcf files (aka vCards). Select a contact and use the File - Export menu (in WAB, not in OE) to export as VCF. For a few contacts this method is okay but tiresome if you have dozens of hundreds of contacts in the WAB. There is payware to convert WAB to vCards but you never mentioned if you have a budget to do the migration or conversion. Win7 has no address book but instead a folder where you can save the contacts, which is %userprofile%\Contacts. Export from WAB under WinXP, copy to the Contacts folder on Win7, and import or drag into whatever e-mail program you end up using on Win7. You can also just copy the ..wab file to Win7 since some e-mail programs will import from a .wab file, like WLM (Windows Live Mail), Thunderbird, and Outlook. Alternatively, and if he is using an edition of Windows 7 that includes XP Mode (which requires 2 downloads from Microsoft) then use that since it comes with IE6 which has OE bundled with it. You didn't way which edition he has of Windows 7. The Home editions don't support XP Mode. I have the Home & Student edition and, as I recall, I could install part of XP Mode which gave me Windows VirtualPC which gave me the Windows XP virtual machine. You use WPC like you did the old Virtual PC 2007 where apps run inside a window for the VM guest, so all I lost were the integration features (where the app looks like it is natively running inside the host OS). It was an experiment and I didn't need it so it's no longer on my Win7 Home&Student host. If the Windows XP on his old host is *not* an OEM version (i.e., retail full or retail upgrade) then he can transfer that license to the VM running on his Win7 host, so you could use any VMM (Virtual Machine Manager), like VirtualPC 2007, VMWare Player, or VirtualBox in which to install WinXP as the guest OS to have OE there. If XP Mode or a VMM is used to bring OE over from another host, you just copy the files from the XP host to the 7 host. I'm sure you can do your own online search on "migrate outlook express" to get a list of folder and files to copy over. Does he also use OE for newsgroups? If so, see if he will consider using separate programs for e-mail and Usenet. Sending personal or sensitive information to Usenet instead of via e-mail can not only be embarrasing but disasterous. No point in discussing newsgroups if he doesn't do Usenet. |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
Don Phillipson wrote, On 3/26/2014 5:59 PM:
"P Bentley" wrote in message ... Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. Outlook Express stores each folder in a DBX file that can be copied elsewhe but their contents can be viewed only in OE. Outlook.com can collect and bundle folder contents and permit them to be viewed. Most Win7 distribution packages are preset to download and instal MS's MAIL.EXE, which is unable to import DBX files and is condemned by most people as much inferior to OE. Mozilla Thunderbird may be a practical alternative for Win7 -- but your novice friend should be told that nothing prevents his continuing to use WinXP and OE, so long as he is confident in his malware protection. This can go on indefinitely (or until he is obliged to replace some hardware and finds new hardware requires Win7 or higher.) No such thing as MS's Mail.exe All MSFT email clients (Windows Live Mail and Outlook are capable of migrating OE data. WLM can migrate installed on the same machine (as OE) or stand-alone when the OE message store (entire folder structure) is accessible on another machine Outlook migrates only when installed on the same machine. OE only exports to Outlook when Outlook is installed on the same machine as OE. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
VanguardLH wrote, On 3/26/2014 7:21 PM:
For contacts, export them from the WAB (Windows Address Book) to save them at .vcf files (aka vCards). Select a contact and use the File - Export menu (in WAB, not in OE) to export as VCF. For a few contacts this method is okay but tiresome if you have dozens of hundreds of contacts in the WAB. There is payware to convert WAB to vCards but you never mentioned if you have a budget to do the migration or conversion. Win7 has no address book but instead a folder where you can save the contacts, which is %userprofile%\Contacts. Export from WAB under WinXP, copy to the Contacts folder on Win7, and import or drag into whatever e-mail program you end up using on Win7. You can also just copy the .wab file to Win7 since some e-mail programs will import from a .wab file, like WLM (Windows Live Mail), Thunderbird, and Outlook. Easier way.. Navigate to %userprofile%\Contacts, click Import, select OE Address book, and browse/select the *.wab file. If necessary to import into another email program (e.g. WLM or Outlook just use that programs import function) Also, %userprofile%\Contacts on Win7 is capable of exporting all contacts to VCF files...both WLM and Outlook can select all vcf's to import. A few other 3rd party programs provide the same ability to import from %userprofile%\Contacts or vcf. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
winston wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: For contacts, export them from the WAB (Windows Address Book) to save them at .vcf files (aka vCards). Select a contact and use the File - Export menu (in WAB, not in OE) to export as VCF. Win7 has no address book but instead a folder where you can save the contacts, which is %userprofile%\Contacts. Export from WAB under WinXP, copy to the Contacts folder on Win7, and import or drag into whatever e-mail program you end up using on Win7. You can also just copy the .wab file to Win7 since some e-mail programs will import from a .wab file, like WLM (Windows Live Mail), Thunderbird, and Outlook. Easier way.. Navigate to %userprofile%\Contacts, click Import, select OE Address book, and browse/select the *.wab file. Ah, yes, much easier. Copy over the .wab file and just import from it. I only did the migration once to put in Contact and then to drag the ..vcf files into a new e-mail client. I'm pretty sure back then I was using Windows Explorer top copy into the Contacts folder and wasn't in the folder itself and is which I don't recall seeing the Import, Export, and other toolbar functions show up there. Luckily I only maintain about 2 dozen contacts so the individual .vcf export was doable. After dragging the .vcf files into the new e-mail client, the .vcf files in the Contact folder never get used anymore so I could delete them now, especially since they won't automatically sync with the contacts within the e-mail client. |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
VanguardLH wrote, On 3/27/2014 4:23 PM:
winston wrote: VanguardLH wrote: For contacts, export them from the WAB (Windows Address Book) to save them at .vcf files (aka vCards). Select a contact and use the File - Export menu (in WAB, not in OE) to export as VCF. Win7 has no address book but instead a folder where you can save the contacts, which is %userprofile%\Contacts. Export from WAB under WinXP, copy to the Contacts folder on Win7, and import or drag into whatever e-mail program you end up using on Win7. You can also just copy the .wab file to Win7 since some e-mail programs will import from a .wab file, like WLM (Windows Live Mail), Thunderbird, and Outlook. Easier way.. Navigate to %userprofile%\Contacts, click Import, select OE Address book, and browse/select the *.wab file. Ah, yes, much easier. Copy over the .wab file and just import from it. I only did the migration once to put in Contact and then to drag the .vcf files into a new e-mail client. I'm pretty sure back then I was using Windows Explorer top copy into the Contacts folder and wasn't in the folder itself and is which I don't recall seeing the Import, Export, and other toolbar functions show up there. Luckily I only maintain about 2 dozen contacts so the individual .vcf export was doable. After dragging the .vcf files into the new e-mail client, the .vcf files in the Contact folder never get used anymore so I could delete them now, especially since they won't automatically sync with the contacts within the e-mail client. I consistently recommend that folks who use WLM (and don't sync contacts to the web UI via MSFT account sign-on) to export their contacts (for backup purposes) to vcf files in a subfolder under userprofile\Contacts. Exporting to VCF (as opposed to CSV) exports more information than WLM's limit contstrained CSV export (e.g. only one email address can be exported - personal, work, or other)...VCF exports all of them. If they need to import them later in WLM...its just a matter of choosing the vcf import option, navigate to the subfolder containing the vcf files, select one, then Control A to select the rest, then OK etc. to import all in one single process. Likewise, use of vcf is better for importing when moving from WLM to Outlook. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
....winston wrote, On 3/28/2014 2:31 AM:
I'm pretty sure back then I was using Windows Explorer top copy into the Contacts folder and wasn't in the folder itself and is which I don't recall seeing the Import, Export, and other toolbar functions show up there. p.s. Fyi...I have seen (on Vista and Win7) reports that the Import and Export options don't appear on that folder's toolbar until one actually created a single contact in that folder using the 'New Contact' option on the same toolbar. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:54:20 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
3. Moving from XP to Windows 7 is moving from an operating system three generations old to one that's one generation old (soon to be two generations old). To me that makes very little sense. He should move to the current version, Windows 8, not an old one. If he's already decided that he doesn't like Windows 8, it's probable that he doesn't understand what it is, and that the modern/metro interface is entirely optional; he doesn't have to use it at all. When it's someone I care about, I recommend Windows 7. Otherwise, I reluctantly recommend Win 8.1. Paul has documented unacceptable behavior of Task Manager in Win 8/8.1, but that bit of poor behavior really only scratches the surface. For numerous reasons, each of them small by themselves but not insignificant on the whole, Win 7 is 'better' than Win 8. -- Char Jackson |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
Char Jackson wrote, On 3/29/2014 12:13 AM:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:54:20 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: 3. Moving from XP to Windows 7 is moving from an operating system three generations old to one that's one generation old (soon to be two generations old). To me that makes very little sense. He should move to the current version, Windows 8, not an old one. If he's already decided that he doesn't like Windows 8, it's probable that he doesn't understand what it is, and that the modern/metro interface is entirely optional; he doesn't have to use it at all. When it's someone I care about, I recommend Windows 7. Otherwise, I reluctantly recommend Win 8.1. Paul has documented unacceptable behavior of Task Manager in Win 8/8.1, but that bit of poor behavior really only scratches the surface. For numerous reasons, each of them small by themselves but not insignificant on the whole, Win 7 is 'better' than Win 8. Msft, afaics, is perfectly comfortable with early o/s users (XP, Vista) to move to Win7...as long as its available: - distribution of retail packaged media has already ceased for all versions - OEM's pc providers can still install based on supply from existing licensing contracts (Note: End of pre-installed for W7 Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate ends in Oct 2014; The end date for W7 Pro is undetermined - 1 yr notice will be provided once that date is determined) - Resellers (Amazon, Tiger Direct, and other sources) continue to market existing supplies of retail and OEM versions. That pipeline will eventually dry up. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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From Outlook Express to Windows 7
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P Bentley typed: Since Microsoft is stopping support for windows XP, novice wishes to save what he can from my current 'outlook express' (especially folders and their contents if possible) and transfer to a windows 7 system which he will install on the same computer. I have access to another lap top if its easier to temporarily store files on there. Also I have the emails in outlook.com from which I can access my emails if necessary. So is it possible to transfer folders and their contents *simply* from outlook express to somewhere for 'easy' recovery please? Thanks. Are you looking for a viewer? Like MiTeC MailView? http://www.pcworld.com/article/26077..._eas ier.html -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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