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Old September 12th 14, 03:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
No_Name
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I'm trying to convert an EXFAT drive to NTFS. The Windows program
CONVERT.EXE can't do it.

C:\Users\Tadeuszconvert e: /fs:ntfs /nosecurity /x
CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives.

C:\Users\Tadeusz


Is it possible to convert the drive using some other program, or must
I reformat the drive with NTFS?
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Old September 12th 14, 03:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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lid wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS


Have a look at this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.

Might try Partition Wizard:
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html
It helped me move a lot of partitions around, and as a tool I like it.


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Old September 12th 14, 05:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:40:20 -0400, Big Al wrote:

Might try Partition Wizard:
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html
It helped me move a lot of partitions around, and as a tool I like it.


Tried Partition Wizard. Doesn't feature conversion from exFAT to NTFS.
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Old September 12th 14, 05:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:40:20 -0400, Big Al wrote:

wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS


Have a look at this: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.


Looked at it. It talks about FAT32 to NTFS. I need exFAT to NTFS.

Any alternative to save / reformatting / reload?
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Old September 12th 14, 08:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:43:36 +0100, lid wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:40:20 -0400, Big Al wrote:

wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS


Have a look at this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.


Looked at it. It talks about FAT32 to NTFS. I need exFAT to NTFS.

Any alternative to save / reformatting / reload?


I didn't see any info telling us the size the disk in question or how full
it is, or whether you have a spare disk to use as a temporary place for your
data. I'd just like to throw out that if you don't have an empty spare disk
handy, and your current disk has a reasonable amount of free space on it,
you can do a 'reformat in place' by shrinking the current exFAT partition,
making a new NTFS partition in the newly freed space, copying your data to
the NTFS partition, removing the exFAT partition, and extending your NTFS
partition to fill the drive. You may have to lather, rinse, repeat one or
more times, but it gets the job done without requiring a second drive.

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Old September 12th 14, 09:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:13:19 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2014-09-12 10:40 AM, Big Al wrote:
lid wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS


Have a look at this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.


+1.

Buy an external drive (you should have one anyhow, for additional
back-up -- reduced odds of losing data). Do what Big Al suggests.

Have a good day,


currently, in one directory and its subdirectories, I have files which
total 26.5 GB, but take up 78 GB on disk

is this the result of using an exFAT filesystem? would NTFS be more
economical with space on disk?

allocation unit size for an exFAT format is 128 kBytes
allocation unit size for an NTFS forrmat is 4096 bytes

this is a no brainer, isn't it? it's got to be NTFS
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Old September 12th 14, 10:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:26:00 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:43:36 +0100, lid wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:40:20 -0400, Big Al wrote:

wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS

Have a look at this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.


Looked at it. It talks about FAT32 to NTFS. I need exFAT to NTFS.

Any alternative to save / reformatting / reload?


I didn't see any info telling us the size the disk in question or how full
it is, or whether you have a spare disk to use as a temporary place for your
data. I'd just like to throw out that if you don't have an empty spare disk
handy, and your current disk has a reasonable amount of free space on it,
you can do a 'reformat in place' by shrinking the current exFAT partition,
making a new NTFS partition in the newly freed space, copying your data to
the NTFS partition, removing the exFAT partition, and extending your NTFS
partition to fill the drive. You may have to lather, rinse, repeat one or
more times, but it gets the job done without requiring a second drive.


I had to laugh at your simple solution :-)

OK, it's not that complicated, but it *is* a bit of work to carry out.
And, after all, I'm sometimes too easily amused...

Since it surely would work, it seems a good last resort.

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Old September 13th 14, 01:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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lid wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:13:19 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2014-09-12 10:40 AM, Big Al wrote:
lid wrote on 9/12/2014 10:14 AM:
EXFAT drive to NTFS
Have a look at this:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=373964
Seems like all my research points to "you can't". Other than removing
the data, format it, and put the data back. If it's your OS, that's a
tough one.

+1.

Buy an external drive (you should have one anyhow, for additional
back-up -- reduced odds of losing data). Do what Big Al suggests.

Have a good day,


currently, in one directory and its subdirectories, I have files which
total 26.5 GB, but take up 78 GB on disk

is this the result of using an exFAT filesystem? would NTFS be more
economical with space on disk?

allocation unit size for an exFAT format is 128 kBytes
allocation unit size for an NTFS forrmat is 4096 bytes

this is a no brainer, isn't it? it's got to be NTFS


If the files are ZIPped (even in store mode, not compressed),
that could save space when they're moved to the exFAT storage.

If you made a single 26.5GB ZIP file, you'd only need 26.5GB
to store it. There is no wasted space in that case.

You may have space on the device to do that now. Take the 78GB
used space, create a ZIP which takes another 26.5GB. You need
at least a 105GB storage device, so a 128GB would be the next
nearest size, and would have room for the operation.
Once you're satisfied the ZIP was created successfully,
you can delete the 78GB section. Which frees up a lot of space.

Paul
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Old September 13th 14, 01:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:26:36 -0400, . . .winston wrote:

John wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:55:30 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

lid wrote:
I'm trying to convert an EXFAT drive to NTFS. The Windows program
CONVERT.EXE can't do it.

C:\Users\Tadeuszconvert e: /fs:ntfs /nosecurity /x
CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives.

C:\Users\Tadeusz

Is it possible to convert the drive using some other program, or must
I reformat the drive with NTFS?


Afiak, not possible.

Backup, format the exFAT drive as NTFS, copy from the backup to the
newly formatted NTFS drive.

Why?
Why not just copy the data to an NTFS drive and use it as the primary
while keeping the exfat as a backup? Far less work.
Drives are cheap.
J.

Copying is much different than converting an existing file system on a
given drive to another file system on the same drive (the op's question)
without moving/copying data. (i.e. convert one file system to another
with data intact).


I think John knows that, but recall that everyone who seems to know has
said that conversion is not possible in this instance.

I gathered that but copying appears to have missed the op's intent of
converting since there was no mention of another drive availability thus
my original repsonse - backup, format the ExFat, copy back to the newly
formatted drive.

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