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Old June 30th 17, 01:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Chaya Eve
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?

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Old June 30th 17, 01:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferencessecurity update?

Chaya Eve wrote:
My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?


There are a couple suggestions here. "opera_autoupdate.exe"
could be the guilty party. This article is two years old.

https://superuser.com/questions/8280...dates-in-opera

Paul
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Old June 30th 17, 04:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Chaya Eve
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:26:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

There are a couple suggestions here. "opera_autoupdate.exe"
could be the guilty party. This article is two years old.

https://superuser.com/questions/8280...dates-in-opera


Thanks for that perfect find which shows my exact problem, even down to the
fact that the Opera help is extremely outdated (hence completely wrong).

I renamed the "opera_autoupdate.exe" in
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\opera-autoupdater.exe to
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\disable_opera-autoupdater.exe

I'll have to wait to see if that works because I can't find an update
button in the current Opera set of menus to test if it will fail.

I guess the good news is that "opera:\\about" says "checking for updates"
and then "An error occurred while checking for updates".
http://i.share.pho.to/b36be279_o.gif
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Old June 30th 17, 04:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC), Chaya Eve
wrote:

My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?


You dont really expect Opera to work properly, DO YOU?
You dont really expect Opera to keep their help updated, DO YOU?

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst. I still recall when it completely
screwed up my operating system, just by installing it. That was back
when it was Windows 95 or so. The programmers for Opera are idiots.
Their software is garbage. I would not install that piece of crap for
any amount of money.


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Old June 30th 17, 07:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Chaya Eve
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:30:48 -0400, wrote:

You dont really expect Opera to work properly, DO YOU?
You dont really expect Opera to keep their help updated, DO YOU?

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst. I still recall when it completely
screwed up my operating system, just by installing it. That was back
when it was Windows 95 or so. The programmers for Opera are idiots.
Their software is garbage. I would not install that piece of crap for
any amount of money.


Do you know of any other browser that comes with fast free unlimited VPN
which also works with sites that habitually block all the known tor exit
nodes?
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Old June 30th 17, 04:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:30:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC), Chaya Eve
wrote:

My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?


You dont really expect Opera to work properly, DO YOU?
You dont really expect Opera to keep their help updated, DO YOU?

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst. I still recall when it completely
screwed up my operating system, just by installing it. That was back
when it was Windows 95 or so. The programmers for Opera are idiots.
Their software is garbage. I would not install that piece of crap for
any amount of money.


The internet channel on the Wii is "Powered by Opera."
  #7  
Old July 1st 17, 08:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:30:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC), Chaya Eve
wrote:

My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?


You dont really expect Opera to work properly, DO YOU?
You dont really expect Opera to keep their help updated, DO YOU?

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst. I still recall when it completely
screwed up my operating system, just by installing it. That was back
when it was Windows 95 or so. The programmers for Opera are idiots.
Their software is garbage. I would not install that piece of crap for
any amount of money.

I have used Opera since it first appeared (when was that? 1995?).
(I have other browsers, primarily for testing my website.)
Repeated attempts to use other browsers send me back to Opera (now
version 46 running on Windows 7).
I would not use any other browser for any amount of money.

http:\\frontal-lobe.info

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Old July 1st 17, 05:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
lifewoutmilk
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 masonc wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 23:30:48 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC), Chaya Eve
wrote:

My latest opera auto updated but I don't like any program phoning home.

So I looked through all the options, and I can't find where autoupdate is.

I'm on the Opera "help" pages and they're not even close to describing what
I see.
http://help.opera.com/Windows/12.10/en/autoupdate.html

They suggest Opera Preferences Advanced Preferences Security
which doesn't even exist. The closest I have is
Menu Settings Privacy and Security

But there's nothing about auto-update there.
Screenshot: http://share.pho.to/AkOJx#fullscreen-modal

If you have Opera, can you explain where your auto-update off switch is?


You dont really expect Opera to work properly, DO YOU?
You dont really expect Opera to keep their help updated, DO YOU?

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst. I still recall when it completely
screwed up my operating system, just by installing it. That was back
when it was Windows 95 or so. The programmers for Opera are idiots.
Their software is garbage. I would not install that piece of crap for
any amount of money.

I have used Opera since it first appeared (when was that? 1995?).
(I have other browsers, primarily for testing my website.)
Repeated attempts to use other browsers send me back to Opera (now
version 46 running on Windows 7).
I would not use any other browser for any amount of money.

http:\\frontal-lobe.info


Have you looked at Vivaldi? It's a product by a former CEO of Opera,
Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner.

https://vivaldi.com/story/
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Old July 1st 17, 07:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:16:36 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst.



I have next to no experience with Opera, so I can't comment on it. But
since Edge first came out, I've thought that it was the worst of the
worst.

Just out of curiosity, do you know of any paid browsers? All the ones
I can think of are free.
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Old July 2nd 17, 01:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
lifewoutmilk
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:16:36 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Opera was a piece of **** when it began some 20 years ago, and has been
**** ever since. Of all the browsers available, both paid and free,
Opera is the worst of the worst.


I have next to no experience with Opera, so I can't comment on it. But
since Edge first came out, I've thought that it was the worst of the
worst.

Just out of curiosity, do you know of any paid browsers? All the ones
I can think of are free.


I didn't write any of the above.
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Old July 2nd 17, 12:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:52:06 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, do you know of any paid browsers? All the ones
I can think of are free.


None of them are free. They are all dataminers. Personally,
I'd rather pay cash than have them selling my "profile" to crooks.
Which one is worse ?
Probably Chrome, but Firefox is not far behind.
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Old July 2nd 17, 04:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

In message , Shadow
writes:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:52:06 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, do you know of any paid browsers? All the ones
I can think of are free.


None of them are free. They are all dataminers. Personally,
I'd rather pay cash than have them selling my "profile" to crooks.


Is this just a wish, or _do_ you actually pay cash? (If so, tell us
which browser - that would answer Ken's question.)

If you do pay, are you _sure_ that the browser for which you're paying
isn't doing any such mining?

Which one is worse ?
Probably Chrome, but Firefox is not far behind.
[]'s


(I often wonder what "[]'s" at the end of your posts means. "[]" in mine
- not usually at the end, though - means "[some text snipped here]";
however, I don't put "'s" after it. So I'm curious.)
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Old July 2nd 17, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Chaya Eve wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:26:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

There are a couple suggestions here. "opera_autoupdate.exe"
could be the guilty party. This article is two years old.

https://superuser.com/questions/8280...dates-in-opera


Thanks for that perfect find which shows my exact problem, even down to the
fact that the Opera help is extremely outdated (hence completely wrong).

I renamed the "opera_autoupdate.exe" in
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\opera-autoupdater.exe to
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\disable_opera-autoupdater.exe

I'll have to wait to see if that works because I can't find an update
button in the current Opera set of menus to test if it will fail.

I guess the good news is that "opera:\\about" says "checking for updates"
and then "An error occurred while checking for updates".
http://i.share.pho.to/b36be279_o.gif

I received a similar message "An error occurred while checking for updates" while using Seamonkey,
(See discussion the Seamonkey Support Forum). Basically, the answer to the Seamonkey Update error
problem is that Seamonkey calls a URL that the anti-virus programs (Avast, AVG ) don't like and they
refuse to allow the URL. If this is your problem, entering the offending URL in the URL exception
list of your ant-virus program may (or may not) solve your problem.
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Old July 3rd 17, 12:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferencessecurity update?

if your using the old 12.17 u just remove the update file exe. Then the
program will not update. It has a folder update inside the opera
folder. But in the end, all of this is stupid **** if you dont have a
good firewall in your machine. Windows firewall does not give you any
control over anything. We did away with it, **** canned it, and
installed PC Tools Firewall instead. Then all you have to do, is
shut down the export channel as in, to update it. Just turn it off at
the firewall. It does this with all softwares as well, giving back
control back to the user. We do that, shut it off if it annoys us.
And we do not have to go inside the folders to do it. As in, move the
update file... Yes, its anoying that they did not give you a switch.
But so what, when you have a good firewall, you have your own switches
for all channels, and you can even specific program it as in what part
of an update you would want and the protocol. Anotherwords, if you
computer talks greek, and you dont want greek aloud, you can set the
protocol to refuse it. Fools in this world, let microsoft control them.
Get rid of microsoft firewalls, and you get rid of your problems.
And once you have a real firewall, then you have control. And no one,
can take it away from you. Unless you let them...

On 6/29/2017 8:05 PM, Chaya Eve scribbled:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:26:29 -0400, wrote:

There are a couple suggestions here. "opera_autoupdate.exe"
could be the guilty party. This article is two years old.

https://superuser.com/questions/8280...dates-in-opera


Thanks for that perfect find which shows my exact problem, even down to the
fact that the Opera help is extremely outdated (hence completely wrong).

I renamed the "opera_autoupdate.exe" in
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\opera-autoupdater.exe to
C:\Program Files\Browsers\Opera\46.0.2597.32\disable_opera-autoupdater.exe

I'll have to wait to see if that works because I can't find an update
button in the current Opera set of menus to test if it will fail.

I guess the good news is that "opera:\\about" says "checking for updates"
and then "An error occurred while checking for updates".
http://i.share.pho.to/b36be279_o.gif

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Old July 3rd 17, 12:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Does your latest Opera not fit the help with respect to preferences security update?

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 16:02:44 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Shadow
writes:
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 11:52:06 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, do you know of any paid browsers? All the ones
I can think of are free.


None of them are free. They are all dataminers. Personally,
I'd rather pay cash than have them selling my "profile" to crooks.


Is this just a wish, or _do_ you actually pay cash? (If so, tell us
which browser - that would answer Ken's question.)


It's a wish. I use a very hardened old version of Firefox. No
scripting, no Flash, no DRM, no video, no sound, no geolocation, no
canvas profiling, a variable Unique-ID, and it varies it's user-agent
string.
It's a pity I have to look at the source code of some webpages
to read them. A lot of sites are designed to only render if you hand
over your personal data.
I was excited by a new browser, but it turned out it checked
your ID online before it enabled "privacy features". Can't even
remember the name of the thing, but I had a good laugh at what
"privacy" means today.

If you do pay, are you _sure_ that the browser for which you're paying
isn't doing any such mining?

Which one is worse ?
Probably Chrome, but Firefox is not far behind.
[]'s


(I often wonder what "[]'s" at the end of your posts means. "[]" in mine
- not usually at the end, though - means "[some text snipped here]";
however, I don't put "'s" after it. So I'm curious.)


It's Portuguese shorthand for "abraços". Ignore.
[]'s
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