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  #1  
Old February 8th 14, 04:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?


A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for application-
specific volume?

Thanks.
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  #2  
Old February 8th 14, 06:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On 2/8/2014 8:59 AM, John Doe wrote:
A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for application-
specific volume?

Thanks.


I found that different applications have differing initial default
volumes. Some (such as VideoLAN) have preference settings to alter that
default, but most do not. The system-wide volume control at
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\SndVol.exe in Windows 7 merely provides a setting
relative to the various application volumes.

The only thing I can suggest is that you do the following:

1. Launch the system-wide volume control and set it to mute all sound
(speaker icon in the lower-left corner of the window.

2. Launch your application. Set the application's sound level to where
you want it.

3. Un-mute the system-wide volume control and close its window.

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  #3  
Old February 8th 14, 06:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On 2/8/2014 10:33 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/8/2014 8:59 AM, John Doe wrote:
A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for application-
specific volume?

Thanks.


I found that different applications have differing initial default
volumes. Some (such as VideoLAN) have preference settings to alter that
default, but most do not. The system-wide volume control at
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\SndVol.exe in Windows 7 merely provides a setting
relative to the various application volumes.

The only thing I can suggest is that you do the following:

1. Launch the system-wide volume control and set it to mute all sound
(speaker icon in the lower-left corner of the window.

2. Launch your application. Set the application's sound level to where
you want it.

3. Un-mute the system-wide volume control and close its window.


A more simple solution, which is how I usually do it:

1. Keep your spearkers turned off.

2. Launch your application. Set the application's sound level to where
you want it.

3. Turn your speakers on.

4. Remember to turn off your speakers when you terminate your
application.

I keep my speakers off because I consider unexpected audio from Web
pages to be unacceptably annoying.

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http://www.rossde.com/

Where does your elected official stand? Which
politicians refuse to tell us where they stand?
See the non-partisan Project Vote Smart at
http://votesmart.org/.
  #4  
Old February 8th 14, 06:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

The thing has a different volume setting for every freaking webpage.
Unbelievable...




A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for application-
specific volume?

Thanks.


  #5  
Old February 9th 14, 03:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On 2/8/2014 10:52 AM, John Doe wrote:
The thing has a different volume setting for every freaking webpage.
Unbelievable...




A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for application-
specific volume?

Thanks.



The problem is that most users (let alone Web developers) want
application settings to override any system settings, not vice versa.
This applies to ALL settings, not just audio volume. I happen to agree
with that.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Where does your elected official stand? Which
politicians refuse to tell us where they stand?
See the non-partisan Project Vote Smart at
http://votesmart.org/.
  #6  
Old February 9th 14, 03:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

The problem is that most users (let alone Web developers) want
application settings to override any system settings, not vice
versa. This applies to ALL settings, not just audio volume. I
happen to agree with that.


Where did you get the silly idea that most users don't want their
system settings to override program settings?

Somebody who needs or prefers white text on a black background
should have to make it so for every single application that pops
up? But seriously...

If that were true, there would be no point in having system
settings. Resetting a user's system sound volume setting every
time an application starts makes no sense either.
  #7  
Old February 9th 14, 04:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default How to override application specific volume?

In message , John Doe
writes:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

The problem is that most users (let alone Web developers) want
application settings to override any system settings, not vice
versa. This applies to ALL settings, not just audio volume. I
happen to agree with that.


Where did you get the silly idea that most users don't want their
system settings to override program settings?

Somebody who needs or prefers white text on a black background
should have to make it so for every single application that pops
up? But seriously...

If that were true, there would be no point in having system
settings. Resetting a user's system sound volume setting every
time an application starts makes no sense either.


I think the truth is somewhere in between: people want whatever control
they're adjusting at the moment to have some effect, whether it's a
local or a global setting.

Some users _would_ want an application to come up with the same volume
every time they opened it; others would want the system settings to
override the application ones. You can't win.

Perhaps there could be a system setting (!) for which people prefer. For
each of sound, brightness, and lots of other things. (Some users might
indeed wish some applications to come up in white on black and others in
a different combination: they might use that as an at-a-glance reminder
of which application is which.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer (1804-1864)
  #8  
Old February 9th 14, 05:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,free.usenet,free.spirit
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

This is the same troll that uses a cryptic signature in a blind users group...

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In message ld6u1l$2rp$1 dont-email.me, John Doe
jdoe usenetlove.invalid writes:
"David E. Ross" nobody nowhere.invalid wrote:

The problem is that most users (let alone Web developers) want
application settings to override any system settings, not vice
versa. This applies to ALL settings, not just audio volume. I
happen to agree with that.


Where did you get the silly idea that most users don't want their
system settings to override program settings?

Somebody who needs or prefers white text on a black background
should have to make it so for every single application that pops
up? But seriously...

If that were true, there would be no point in having system
settings. Resetting a user's system sound volume setting every
time an application starts makes no sense either.


I think the truth is somewhere in between: people want whatever control
they're adjusting at the moment to have some effect, whether it's a
local or a global setting.

Some users _would_ want an application to come up with the same volume
every time they opened it; others would want the system settings to
override the application ones. You can't win.

Perhaps there could be a system setting (!) for which people prefer. For
each of sound, brightness, and lots of other things. (Some users might
indeed wish some applications to come up in white on black and others in
a different combination: they might use that as an at-a-glance reminder
of which application is which.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Easy reading is damned hard writing. -Nathaniel Hawthorne, writer (1804-1864)



  #9  
Old February 9th 14, 11:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,free.usenet,free.spirit
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On 2/09/2014, John Doe posted:
This is the same troll that uses a cryptic signature in a blind users
group...


--
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" G6JPG soft255.demon.co.uk wrote:


The so-called "troll" uses his own name and his own e-mail address, and
a signature whose meaning can be *easily* found in Google.

The accuser doesn't use his own name or e-mail address.

--
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  #10  
Old February 10th 14, 02:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,free.usenet,free.spirit
Char Jackson
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:50:13 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/09/2014, John Doe posted:
This is the same troll that uses a cryptic signature in a blind users
group...


--
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" G6JPG soft255.demon.co.uk wrote:


The so-called "troll" uses his own name and his own e-mail address, and
a signature whose meaning can be *easily* found in Google.

The accuser doesn't use his own name or e-mail address.


Ok, next he'll post your message headers as "punishment" for outing him. :-)

Referring to John Doe, of course.

And then he'll post my message headers, as well, for making this post. Oh,
the pain!

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Old February 10th 14, 02:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,free.usenet,free.spirit
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

Regular troll...

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On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:50:13 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
blochxxxx someplace.invalid wrote:

On 2/09/2014, John Doe posted:
This is the same troll that uses a cryptic signature in a blind users
group...


--
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" G6JPG soft255.demon.co.uk wrote:


The so-called "troll" uses his own name and his own e-mail address, and
a signature whose meaning can be *easily* found in Google.

The accuser doesn't use his own name or e-mail address.


Ok, next he'll post your message headers as "punishment" for outing him. :-)

Referring to John Doe, of course.

And then he'll post my message headers, as well, for making this post. Oh,
the pain!




  #12  
Old February 10th 14, 02:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,free.usenet,free.spirit
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

This troll doesn't know whether the other troll's name is in fact
real or not. Doesn't matter anyway. Many people who use their real
names are spammers. Using a real sounding name means squat on
UseNet.

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On 2/09/2014, John Doe posted:
This is the same troll that uses a cryptic signature in a blind users
group...


--
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" G6JPG soft255.demon.co.uk wrote:


The so-called "troll" uses his own name and his own e-mail address, and
a signature whose meaning can be *easily* found in Google.

The accuser doesn't use his own name or e-mail address.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


  #13  
Old February 10th 14, 02:39 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

Well, so far, seems Windows is able to remember most of the volume
settings that I've had to change. That's a pleasant surprise.
Problem is, Microsoft usually isn't that skillful.


A system sound volume control would be more useful if every
application that comes up didn't override it.

Is there a way to turn off application-specific volume?

Is there a way to lower the default setting (100%) for
application- specific volume?

Thanks.


  #14  
Old February 10th 14, 02:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paladin
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Default How to override application specific volume?

On 2014-02-10, John Doe wrote:
This troll doesn't know whether the other troll's name is in fact
real or not. Doesn't matter anyway. Many people who use their real
names are spammers. Using a real sounding name means squat on
UseNet.


Just so you don't look the complete fool... you are editing the post
you reply to in a way that makes it your signature.

(--) ------- that thingy, cut it.

Top posters do it all the time.

Carry on.

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Old February 10th 14, 03:03 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Doe
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Default How to override application specific volume?

The argument is not convincing.

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On 2014-02-10, John Doe jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote:
This troll doesn't know whether the other troll's name is in fact
real or not. Doesn't matter anyway. Many people who use their real
names are spammers. Using a real sounding name means squat on
UseNet.


Just so you don't look the complete fool... you are editing the post
you reply to in a way that makes it your signature.

(--) ------- that thingy, cut it.

Top posters do it all the time.

Carry on.

--
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recommend that they do what they want to do.



 




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