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July 25th 20, 01:46 PM
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OT, DVR Hard drive for PC use
On 2020-07-25 12:13 a.m., Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:58:40 -0500, NT (Ant) wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: ... Don't you have to return it (nothing touched inside) back to Shaw or be charged? No, Shaw cable deem it obsolete and don't want it back. Lucky! They have also sent me 2 new updated Cisco DPC3848v Modem/Routers in the last 2 years and told me I could keep the replaced ones or send them back for a $10.00 credit each applied to my monthly bill. Wow. I wished mine (not Shaw) did that! Mine is so greedy.  Can youstill use that old modem though or did they stop connecting you with it? Router could be useful. How good is it compared to non-cable modem's routers? I had to replace a dying almost five years old leased cable EMATA cable modem last month due to very high pings. The new modem sucks since I can't even ping and access its 192.168.100.1. I know, get my own but land phone service. It's unlikely that you're limited to a single cable modem. With my last ISP, I had a free eMTA from the ISP for phone service and my own modem for Internet service. Naturally, I also had my own separate router behind my modem. If you aren't happy with the modem that they've given to you, just use your own. The Cisco DCP3848V Modems they supply are just great, never even had a glitch on them. Rene 
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July 25th 20, 04:55 PM
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:56:32 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
wrote: On 25/07/2020 07.13, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:58:40 -0500, NT (Ant) wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: ... Don't you have to return it (nothing touched inside) back to Shaw or be charged? No, Shaw cable deem it obsolete and don't want it back. Lucky! They have also sent me 2 new updated Cisco DPC3848v Modem/Routers in the last 2 years and told me I could keep the replaced ones or send them back for a $10.00 credit each applied to my monthly bill. Wow. I wished mine (not Shaw) did that! Mine is so greedy. Can youstill use that old modem though or did they stop connecting you with it? Router could be useful. How good is it compared to non-cable modem's routers? I had to replace a dying almost five years old leased cable EMATA cable modem last month due to very high pings. The new modem sucks since I can't even ping and access its 192.168.100.1. I know, get my own but land phone service. It's unlikely that you're limited to a single cable modem. With my last ISP, I had a free eMTA from the ISP for phone service and my own modem for Internet service. Naturally, I also had my own separate router behind my modem. If you aren't happy with the modem that they've given to you, just use your own. Not always possible, or not easily. Right, it's up to the ISP. In my case, the ISP was fine with me having two modems - one for voice (all other features unused), and one for Internet. The configuration of my fibre-router is too complex and undocumented, making it too difficult to replace with my own. Also, they do remote maintenance of it; I would be on my own with undocumented changes. You're in Spain, right? Over here in the US I haven't seen anything I'd call a fibre-router. If you have a fiber connection here, they normally terminate it at an ONT, and then it's just standard Ethernet after that so any router works fine. That's my experience, anyway. In my case, it handles the phone (transparent VoIp), TV, and Internet.
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July 25th 20, 07:16 PM
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OT, DVR Hard drive for PC use
On 25/07/2020 17.55, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:56:32 +0200, "Carlos E.R." wrote: On 25/07/2020 07.13, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:58:40 -0500, NT (Ant) wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: ... Don't you have to return it (nothing touched inside) back to Shaw or be charged? No, Shaw cable deem it obsolete and don't want it back. Lucky! They have also sent me 2 new updated Cisco DPC3848v Modem/Routers in the last 2 years and told me I could keep the replaced ones or send them back for a $10.00 credit each applied to my monthly bill. Wow. I wished mine (not Shaw) did that! Mine is so greedy. Can youstill use that old modem though or did they stop connecting you with it? Router could be useful. How good is it compared to non-cable modem's routers? I had to replace a dying almost five years old leased cable EMATA cable modem last month due to very high pings. The new modem sucks since I can't even ping and access its 192.168.100.1. I know, get my own but land phone service. It's unlikely that you're limited to a single cable modem. With my last ISP, I had a free eMTA from the ISP for phone service and my own modem for Internet service. Naturally, I also had my own separate router behind my modem. If you aren't happy with the modem that they've given to you, just use your own. Not always possible, or not easily. Right, it's up to the ISP. In my case, the ISP was fine with me having two modems - one for voice (all other features unused), and one for Internet. The configuration of my fibre-router is too complex and undocumented, making it too difficult to replace with my own. Also, they do remote maintenance of it; I would be on my own with undocumented changes. You're in Spain, right? Yep. Over here in the US I haven't seen anything I'd call a fibre-router. If you have a fiber connection here, they normally terminate it at an ONT, and then it's just standard Ethernet after that so any router works fine. That's my experience, anyway. Yes, actually there is an ONT in the mixture, which does the fibre to Ethernet conversion, and in some cases also "separates" the phone signal. And another box connects to the router and provides the TV signal. Total, 3 boxes. But the same company provides a setup with a single box for everything on current installations (and charges a bit more, so I stay silent). I think that the router configures 3 VPNs, but I'm not sure. I think there are sold here specific routers to replace the Telefónica router, but I'm not trying unless forced. The main issue is that they don't document the needed configuration, someone has to reverse engineer it, and keep track of the changes they do. In my case, it handles the phone (transparent VoIp), TV, and Internet. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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July 25th 20, 10:41 PM
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:16:58 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
wrote: On 25/07/2020 17.55, Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 13:56:32 +0200, "Carlos E.R." wrote: On 25/07/2020 07.13, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 21:58:40 -0500, NT (Ant) wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: ... Don't you have to return it (nothing touched inside) back to Shaw or be charged? No, Shaw cable deem it obsolete and don't want it back. Lucky! They have also sent me 2 new updated Cisco DPC3848v Modem/Routers in the last 2 years and told me I could keep the replaced ones or send them back for a $10.00 credit each applied to my monthly bill. Wow. I wished mine (not Shaw) did that! Mine is so greedy. Can youstill use that old modem though or did they stop connecting you with it? Router could be useful. How good is it compared to non-cable modem's routers? I had to replace a dying almost five years old leased cable EMATA cable modem last month due to very high pings. The new modem sucks since I can't even ping and access its 192.168.100.1. I know, get my own but land phone service. It's unlikely that you're limited to a single cable modem. With my last ISP, I had a free eMTA from the ISP for phone service and my own modem for Internet service. Naturally, I also had my own separate router behind my modem. If you aren't happy with the modem that they've given to you, just use your own. Not always possible, or not easily. Right, it's up to the ISP. In my case, the ISP was fine with me having two modems - one for voice (all other features unused), and one for Internet. The configuration of my fibre-router is too complex and undocumented, making it too difficult to replace with my own. Also, they do remote maintenance of it; I would be on my own with undocumented changes. You're in Spain, right? Yep. Over here in the US I haven't seen anything I'd call a fibre-router. If you have a fiber connection here, they normally terminate it at an ONT, and then it's just standard Ethernet after that so any router works fine. That's my experience, anyway. Yes, actually there is an ONT in the mixture, which does the fibre to Ethernet conversion, and in some cases also "separates" the phone signal. And another box connects to the router and provides the TV signal. Total, 3 boxes. But the same company provides a setup with a single box for everything on current installations (and charges a bit more, so I stay silent). I think that the router configures 3 VPNs, but I'm not sure. I think there are sold here specific routers to replace the Telefónica router, but I'm not trying unless forced. The main issue is that they don't document the needed configuration, someone has to reverse engineer it, and keep track of the changes they do. I guess we have it easier here, at least with cable and fiber. DSL isn't popular over here, so I'm less familiar with that. Anyway, the modems here have no customer-facing configuration available; that's all done from the ISP side via tftp, and the routers have no specific configuration requirements at all, other than defaulting to DHCP on the WAN side. Easy Peasy. In my case, it handles the phone (transparent VoIp), TV, and Internet.
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