Windows Security messed up

I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some strange
reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine the thing
without even notifying me. I figured that would be the place to look,
since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to know
what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC into a
smartphone. Idiots.

John Doe wrote:
I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some strange
reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine the thing
without even notifying me. I figured that would be the place to look,
since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to know
what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC into a
smartphone. Idiots.

It doesn't say here they act without instruction.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi...ThreatID=14107

https://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/claria.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claria_Corporation

Claria Corporation (formerly Gator Corporation)...

Have you located the Quarantine folder yet ?

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Quarantine

https://www.starusrecovery.com/artic...-defender.html

Paul

On 25.07.20 8:43, Paul wrote:
John Doe wrote:
I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some strange
reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine the thing
without even notifying me. I figured that would be the place to look,
since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to know
what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC into a
smartphone. Idiots.

It doesn't say here they act without instruction.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-

According to that description, three-quarters of M$ software falls
into that category .......

Paul wrote:

It doesn't say here they act without instruction.

When you do scripting all day, you must pay close attention to
everything the OS is doing. I saw no prompt.

If only a restore of Windows didn't take so long (from outside of
Windows), a simple test will be easy... Do the restore, start the
weather program without using scripting. See what happens.

FWIW...
Of course that should have been "you must pay close attention to
everything THE USER INTERFACE PART OF the OS is doing".

John Doe wrote:
FWIW...
Of course that should have been "you must pay close attention to
everything THE USER INTERFACE PART OF the OS is doing".

Did you find the quarantine folder yet ?

We don't even know at this point, that WD did it.
A real AV would likely have a log. But don't quote
me on that. Making logs is *hard* :-) It takes
a printf(). They don't teach printf() in CS.

printf("Something happened\n"); setcolor(CheeryPink);

Paul

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Of course that should have been "you must pay close attention to
everything THE USER INTERFACE PART OF the OS is doing".

Did you find the quarantine folder yet ?

I went to the settings and reversed Windows' actions.
That was easy.

We don't even know at this point, that WD did it.

That's what quarantined it.

I'm just complaining, mainly about the lack of notice.

The issue must be duplicated during the normal course of things here,
anyway, so I will update the next time Windows is restored. It's in my
TODO list that follows a Windows restore...

"WeatherScope, see if Windows Security quarantines, then correct"

Along with everything else in TODO, after it's done a fresh backup of
Windows is made. That way the correction is archived.

Thanks.




--

A real AV would likely have a log. But don't quote
me on that. Making logs is *hard* :-) It takes
a printf(). They don't teach printf() in CS.

printf("Something happened\n"); setcolor(CheeryPink);

Paul

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 05:30:14 -0000 (UTC), John Doe wrote:

I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some strange
reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine the thing
without even notifying me. I figured that would be the place to look,
since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to know
what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC into a
smartphone. Idiots.

quote
***Note: The final version of WeatherScope was released on November
17, 2014. WeatherScope is no longer operationally supported by the
Oklahoma Mesonet.***

mechanic wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some
strange reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine
the thing without even notifying me. I figured that would be the
place to look, since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to
know what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC
into a smartphone. Idiots.

quote
***Note: The final version of WeatherScope was released on November
17, 2014. WeatherScope is no longer operationally supported by the
Oklahoma Mesonet.***

How is that relevant? Something that hasn't been a threat for six years
and hasn't changed in the last six years is all of a sudden deemed a
threat by Windows? Why?

The only Internet it accesses is the US weather site. Unless that site
is hacked, I doubt there is any risk to users.

Restored Windows. Paying close attention. Everything's fine now, no
signs of this failing to open or Skype unauthorized appearing on the
taskbar.

There were other times when WeatherScope had trouble opening for
some strange reason. Maybe Microsoft Security changing its mind?
Seems fishy. In fact it was quarantined this last time, I saw it.
Weird. What sort of user action can cause Windows to act differently
that way? After the Windows restore, just now, it was opened
manually and then as usual via script, opened both times.

Windows update has been turned off (paused), so the different
behavior is not caused by an update.

Nevermind for now.





I wrote:

I have been running WeatherScope for at least 15 years. For some strange
reason, all of a sudden Microsoft decides to quarantine the thing
without even notifying me. I figured that would be the place to look,
since apparently files were missing. Idiots.

Deleting the files is one thing, but deleting them without even
notifying the user? Because they think the user is too stupid to know
what it's doing?

Must have something to do with Microsoft trying to turn the PC into a
smartphone. Idiots.