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Old January 15th 10, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
John Callaway
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In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
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Old January 15th 10, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Defragmenting your hard disk takes the fragmented pieces of your files
and puts them together - like assembling a jigsaw puzzle - so they lie
on your hard disk in a contiguous fashion. There is nothing to remove.
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Leonard Grey
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John Callaway wrote:
In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC

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Old January 15th 10, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Defragmenting your hard disk takes the fragmented pieces of your files
and puts them together - like assembling a jigsaw puzzle - so they lie
on your hard disk in a contiguous fashion. There is nothing to remove.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

John Callaway wrote:
In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC

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Old January 15th 10, 03:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Andrew E.
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As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
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Old January 15th 10, 03:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Andrew E.
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Default remove fragmented files

As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
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Old January 15th 10, 03:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Andrew E. when will you stop dispensing your absurd - and in this
example, dangerous - advice?
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Andrew E. wrote:
As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
.

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Old January 15th 10, 03:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Leonard Grey[_3_]
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Default remove fragmented files

Andrew E. when will you stop dispensing your absurd - and in this
example, dangerous - advice?
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Andrew E. wrote:
As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
.

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Old January 15th 10, 08:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default remove fragmented files

On 14 Jan 2010, John Callaway wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?


Why would you want to do that? They are your data files and those that
the system uses - fragmented or not, they are complete. If you truly
don't need or want them... delete them.

There will always be some fragmented files on your disk. They harm
nothing. The only way to get rid of them is to format the disk.
  #9  
Old January 15th 10, 08:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Nil[_2_]
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Default remove fragmented files

On 14 Jan 2010, John Callaway wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?


Why would you want to do that? They are your data files and those that
the system uses - fragmented or not, they are complete. If you truly
don't need or want them... delete them.

There will always be some fragmented files on your disk. They harm
nothing. The only way to get rid of them is to format the disk.
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Old January 15th 10, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Twayne[_3_]
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In ,
Andrew E. typed:
As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my
computer,properties, advanced,performance,virtual memory,change
button,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X close out
system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR cleanup C: Type:
Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper- ties,set
page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on
it.The reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.


Uhh, that has nothign to do with the OPs query. And how do you know for sure
it's on drive C?

Files in use cannot be defragged; thus, to get the most from defrag, do it
right after a fresh boot and before any/many files are called into use.
Nothing to remove. Nothing else to do. It's not necessary, and usually
impossible, for defrag to defrag every file it sees. It's normal. And some
areas are specifically marked as not able to be defragged by their programs,
too.


"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
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Old January 15th 10, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Twayne[_3_]
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Default remove fragmented files

In ,
Andrew E. typed:
As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my
computer,properties, advanced,performance,virtual memory,change
button,set C: to "no page file" click set 2X close out
system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR cleanup C: Type:
Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper- ties,set
page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on
it.The reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.


Uhh, that has nothign to do with the OPs query. And how do you know for sure
it's on drive C?

Files in use cannot be defragged; thus, to get the most from defrag, do it
right after a fresh boot and before any/many files are called into use.
Nothing to remove. Nothing else to do. It's not necessary, and usually
impossible, for defrag to defrag every file it sees. It's normal. And some
areas are specifically marked as not able to be defragged by their programs,
too.


"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
.



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Old January 15th 10, 10:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Twayne[_3_]
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Default remove fragmented files

In ,
Nil typed:
On 14 Jan 2010, John Callaway wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?


Why would you want to do that? They are your data files and those that
the system uses - fragmented or not, they are complete. If you truly
don't need or want them... delete them.


You cannot delete files that are in use, either. They are protected by the
operating system from being messed with so that the system won't crash.


There will always be some fragmented files on your disk. They harm
nothing. The only way to get rid of them is to format the disk.


Formatting a disk will simply create a different but similar set of "in use"
files that cannot be defragged. The best time to defrag is right after a
boot, before they're called into use. Even then, there may still be come can
't be degragged.
And there is never a reason to delete in use files, even if it could be
done.

Regards,

Twayne`





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Old January 15th 10, 10:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Twayne[_3_]
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Posts: 1,073
Default remove fragmented files

In ,
Nil typed:
On 14 Jan 2010, John Callaway wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?


Why would you want to do that? They are your data files and those that
the system uses - fragmented or not, they are complete. If you truly
don't need or want them... delete them.


You cannot delete files that are in use, either. They are protected by the
operating system from being messed with so that the system won't crash.


There will always be some fragmented files on your disk. They harm
nothing. The only way to get rid of them is to format the disk.


Formatting a disk will simply create a different but similar set of "in use"
files that cannot be defragged. The best time to defrag is right after a
boot, before they're called into use. Even then, there may still be come can
't be degragged.
And there is never a reason to delete in use files, even if it could be
done.

Regards,

Twayne`





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Old January 16th 10, 09:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Default remove fragmented files

Andrew,
It is particularly inadvisable to turn off memory paging for *any*
length of time...

If it was your contention that it was the pagefile that was responsible for
persistent file fragmentation.

And that, by specifying to the system - no pagefile, thereby deleting it, would
remove this problem...

It would be far easier, safer and more convenient, to use the Sysinternals utility -
"PageDefrag" - instead!

The function of this small and simple-to-use program being self-explanatory.

It is available for download by clicking on the link below :
http://live.sysinternals.com/Files/PageDefrag.zip

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Andrew E." wrote in message
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As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
.


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Old January 16th 10, 09:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Tim Meddick
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Posts: 1,995
Default remove fragmented files


Andrew,
It is particularly inadvisable to turn off memory paging for *any*
length of time...

If it was your contention that it was the pagefile that was responsible for
persistent file fragmentation.

And that, by specifying to the system - no pagefile, thereby deleting it, would
remove this problem...

It would be far easier, safer and more convenient, to use the Sysinternals utility -
"PageDefrag" - instead!

The function of this small and simple-to-use program being self-explanatory.

It is available for download by clicking on the link below :
http://live.sysinternals.com/Files/PageDefrag.zip

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Andrew E." wrote in message
...
As in all files could not be defraged....R.click my computer,properties,
advanced,performance,virtual memory,change button,set C: to "no page file"
click set 2X close out system,restart pc.In xp,go to run,type: CLEANMGR
cleanup C: Type: Defrag C: Once its thru,type: EXIT Reopen system proper-
ties,set page file to "let system manage",click set 2X,close out,restart pc.
This works better if you have a slave hd with another page file on it.The
reason those files couldnt be defraged was they were in use.

"John Callaway" wrote:

In XP SP2 how do I remove fragmented files after I run defrag?

JPC
.


 




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