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Old August 2nd 20, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
AK[_4_]
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I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy

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Old August 2nd 20, 05:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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AK wrote:
I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy


https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/...s_to_a_cd.html

"There are two main types of CDs that you can create with
CD burning softwa audio CDs and data CDs"

"Ensure in Windows Media Player ... that you select the option for
burning a "Music CD" and not a "Data CD"
"

Maybe what you need is a "Music CD".

There are some player devices that will play "Music" or "Data",
on CD or DVD. But an older car player isn't likely to do all of
those. All you can count on is "Music" "CD".

Since you did get to listen to Track 1, that means your player
is modern enough to have enough laser power to read a CD-RW.

The first CD drives, could read a pressed CD, or a CD-R, but
they could not read CD-RW. You've already tested and proved
the CD-RW works, so that's a good start. Now, just make a
"Music CD" and you're done.

Paul
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Old August 2nd 20, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
AK[_4_]
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 11:21:33 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
AK wrote:
I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy


https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/...s_to_a_cd.html

"There are two main types of CDs that you can create with
CD burning softwa audio CDs and data CDs"

"Ensure in Windows Media Player ... that you select the option for
burning a "Music CD" and not a "Data CD"
"

Maybe what you need is a "Music CD".

There are some player devices that will play "Music" or "Data",
on CD or DVD. But an older car player isn't likely to do all of
those. All you can count on is "Music" "CD".

Since you did get to listen to Track 1, that means your player
is modern enough to have enough laser power to read a CD-RW.

The first CD drives, could read a pressed CD, or a CD-R, but
they could not read CD-RW. You've already tested and proved
the CD-RW works, so that's a good start. Now, just make a
"Music CD" and you're done.

Paul


Problem with a music CD is that it's capacity is about 1/5 that of a CD with mp3s on it.

I have gotten 167 playable mp3s on another CD-RW and it plays great.

That's why it is so frustrating.

Andy

Andy
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Old August 2nd 20, 11:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
AK[_4_]
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 11:21:33 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
AK wrote:
I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy


https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/...s_to_a_cd.html

"There are two main types of CDs that you can create with
CD burning softwa audio CDs and data CDs"

"Ensure in Windows Media Player ... that you select the option for
burning a "Music CD" and not a "Data CD"
"

Maybe what you need is a "Music CD".

There are some player devices that will play "Music" or "Data",
on CD or DVD. But an older car player isn't likely to do all of
those. All you can count on is "Music" "CD".

Since you did get to listen to Track 1, that means your player
is modern enough to have enough laser power to read a CD-RW.

The first CD drives, could read a pressed CD, or a CD-R, but
they could not read CD-RW. You've already tested and proved
the CD-RW works, so that's a good start. Now, just make a
"Music CD" and you're done.

Paul


I wrote the songs to the CD as an Music disc.

I got 25 songs on it.

Thanks for your help,

Andy
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Old August 3rd 20, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 11:21:33 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
AK wrote:
I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy


https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/...s_to_a_cd.html

"There are two main types of CDs that you can create with
CD burning softwa audio CDs and data CDs"

"Ensure in Windows Media Player ... that you select the option for
burning a "Music CD" and not a "Data CD"
"

Maybe what you need is a "Music CD".

There are some player devices that will play "Music" or "Data",
on CD or DVD. But an older car player isn't likely to do all of
those. All you can count on is "Music" "CD".

Since you did get to listen to Track 1, that means your player
is modern enough to have enough laser power to read a CD-RW.

The first CD drives, could read a pressed CD, or a CD-R, but
they could not read CD-RW. You've already tested and proved
the CD-RW works, so that's a good start. Now, just make a
"Music CD" and you're done.

Paul


Problem with a music CD is that it's capacity is about 1/5 that of a CD with mp3s on it.

I have gotten 167 playable mp3s on another CD-RW and it plays great.

That's why it is so frustrating.

Andy

Andy


I never screw with RW CDs, media is too cheap but is it possible the
disk wasn't properly erased?
If it is just one disk, chuck it and try another new one.
If your player is smart enough for a thumb drive or an SD card, I find
that is a better way to go.
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Old August 3rd 20, 01:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
AK[_4_]
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On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 6:37:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 11:21:33 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
AK wrote:
I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Welcome to your feedback.

Thanks,
Andy


https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/...s_to_a_cd.html

"There are two main types of CDs that you can create with
CD burning softwa audio CDs and data CDs"

"Ensure in Windows Media Player ... that you select the option for
burning a "Music CD" and not a "Data CD"
"

Maybe what you need is a "Music CD".

There are some player devices that will play "Music" or "Data",
on CD or DVD. But an older car player isn't likely to do all of
those. All you can count on is "Music" "CD".

Since you did get to listen to Track 1, that means your player
is modern enough to have enough laser power to read a CD-RW.

The first CD drives, could read a pressed CD, or a CD-R, but
they could not read CD-RW. You've already tested and proved
the CD-RW works, so that's a good start. Now, just make a
"Music CD" and you're done.

Paul


Problem with a music CD is that it's capacity is about 1/5 that of a CD with mp3s on it.

I have gotten 167 playable mp3s on another CD-RW and it plays great.

That's why it is so frustrating.

Andy

Andy


I never screw with RW CDs, media is too cheap but is it possible the
disk wasn't properly erased?
If it is just one disk, chuck it and try another new one.
If your player is smart enough for a thumb drive or an SD card, I find
that is a better way to go.


The problem was that I was burning them as a data project. When I went to an music project, it played all the songs.

Andy
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Old August 3rd 20, 02:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 17:48:27 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have gotten 167 playable mp3s on another CD-RW and it plays great


Was this isn the same player you are having trouble with?
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Old August 5th 20, 07:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?


Try copying them to CD-R.




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Old August 5th 20, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?


Try copying them to CD-R.




--
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http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com


The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.

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Old August 6th 20, 01:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?


Try copying them to CD-R.




--
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http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com


The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.


Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

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Old August 6th 20, 03:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:36:12 PM UTC-5, JT wrote:
AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Try copying them to CD-R.




--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com


The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.


Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

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No, as it plays CD-RW with 165 mp3s on it.


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Old August 6th 20, 07:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 19:06:03, AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:36:12 PM UTC-5, JT wrote:
AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I
play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and
then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Try copying them to CD-R.




--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.


Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

--


No, as it plays CD-RW with 165 mp3s on it.


So you have a CD-RW with 165 mp3s, and the car player plays that - but
two CD-RWs with 28 mp3s on, and it does play the first one, but that's
all. So it's clear that the car player _can_ (a) read CD-RWs [so it's
not a laser colour/power problem] (b) read and play mp3s.

Two thoughts:

1. Is the "structure" of the 28-mp3 discs different to that of the
165-mp3 one - does the 165- have them all in the root folder, say, but
the 28- have them in sub-folders (all but one track)? Some players don't
like complex structures.

1a. Or, you may have changed a mode in the player: with (just audio CDs)
in my car player (Å*koda Octavia), I've done something that affects how
the back button works (always goes to the beginning of the CD now, which
is irritating!), and I can't figure out how to get it back (to either
just rewind a bit, or at least just restart the current track).

2. Have you "closed" the "data project" on the 28-? That might affect
how the car player sees them (might only see the first one if you
haven't [I'd be surprised it even sees that]).
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Old August 6th 20, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 19:06:03, AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:36:12 PM UTC-5, JT wrote:
AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I
play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and
then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?

Try copying them to CD-R.




--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.

Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

--


No, as it plays CD-RW with 165 mp3s on it.


So you have a CD-RW with 165 mp3s, and the car player plays that - but
two CD-RWs with 28 mp3s on, and it does play the first one, but that's
all. So it's clear that the car player _can_ (a) read CD-RWs [so it's
not a laser colour/power problem] (b) read and play mp3s.


Two thoughts:


1. Is the "structure" of the 28-mp3 discs different to that of the
165-mp3 one - does the 165- have them all in the root folder, say, but
the 28- have them in sub-folders (all but one track)? Some players don't
like complex structures.


1a. Or, you may have changed a mode in the player: with (just audio CDs)
in my car player (??koda Octavia), I've done something that affects how
the back button works (always goes to the beginning of the CD now, which
is irritating!), and I can't figure out how to get it back (to either
just rewind a bit, or at least just restart the current track).


2. Have you "closed" the "data project" on the 28-? That might affect
how the car player sees them (might only see the first one if you
haven't [I'd be surprised it even sees that]).


What about file system?
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Old August 7th 20, 05:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Ant wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 19:06:03, AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:36:12 PM UTC-5, JT wrote:
AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I
play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and
then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?
Try copying them to CD-R.




--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com
The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.
Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

--
No, as it plays CD-RW with 165 mp3s on it.


So you have a CD-RW with 165 mp3s, and the car player plays that - but
two CD-RWs with 28 mp3s on, and it does play the first one, but that's
all. So it's clear that the car player _can_ (a) read CD-RWs [so it's
not a laser colour/power problem] (b) read and play mp3s.


Two thoughts:


1. Is the "structure" of the 28-mp3 discs different to that of the
165-mp3 one - does the 165- have them all in the root folder, say, but
the 28- have them in sub-folders (all but one track)? Some players don't
like complex structures.


1a. Or, you may have changed a mode in the player: with (just audio CDs)
in my car player (??koda Octavia), I've done something that affects how
the back button works (always goes to the beginning of the CD now, which
is irritating!), and I can't figure out how to get it back (to either
just rewind a bit, or at least just restart the current track).


2. Have you "closed" the "data project" on the 28-? That might affect
how the car player sees them (might only see the first one if you
haven't [I'd be surprised it even sees that]).


What about file system?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compac..._Digital_Audio

The audio CD would likely be "Red Book" or "CDDA". I
don't think that's a file system in the conventional
mount sense. There's got to be some reason that they
call the copying of a CD "ripping".

If you have the Cygwin or Linux version of this, you could
try running it against the drive and see what it says
about the media.

http://disktype.sourceforge.net/

Then we can run a few.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDB

"conceived as an evolution of the gramophone record, and
did not consider the audio tracks as data files to be
identified and indexed.

The audio CD format does not include the disc name or
track names, so a supplemental database is needed to
supply this information"

mint@mint:~$ sudo disktype /dev/cdrom

--- /dev/cdrom
Block device, size 428.8 MiB (449607680 bytes)
CD-ROM, 11 tracks, CDDB disk ID 8D0B6F0B
Track 1: Audio track, 38.83 MiB (40713120 bytes), 3 min 50 sec
Track 2: Audio track, 36.77 MiB (38561040 bytes), 3 min 38 sec
Track 3: Audio track, 44.46 MiB (46616640 bytes), 4 min 24 sec
Track 4: Audio track, 45.04 MiB (47228160 bytes), 4 min 27 sec
Track 5: Audio track, 42.39 MiB (44445744 bytes), 4 min 11 sec
Track 6: Audio track, 47.23 MiB (49528416 bytes), 4 min 40 sec
Track 7: Audio track, 60.79 MiB (63739200 bytes), 6 min 01 sec
Track 8: Audio track, 34.67 MiB (36354864 bytes), 3 min 26 sec
Track 9: Audio track, 42.03 MiB (44071776 bytes), 4 min 09 sec
Track 10: Audio track, 66.35 MiB (69572160 bytes), 6 min 34 sec
Track 11: Audio track, 33.87 MiB (35515200 bytes), 3 min 21 sec

*******

This Hollywood title (from the delete bin), uses an overlay
of two file systems. And the read error is probably a quaint
way of preventing copying (it rips just fine).

mint@mint:~$ sudo disktype /dev/cdrom

--- /dev/cdrom
Block device, size 7.827 GiB (8403816448 bytes)
CD-ROM, 1 track, CDDB disk ID 023BFD01
Track 1: Data track, 2.197 GiB (2358986752 bytes)
disktype: Data read failed at position 2358472704: Input/output error
UDF file system
Sector size 2048 bytes
Volume name "ANIMAL_HOUSE"
UDF version 1.02
ISO9660 file system
Volume name "ANIMAL_HOUSE"
Publisher "UNIVERSAL"
Preparer "DELUXE_DIGITAL_STUDIOS_V176_O2"
Data size 7.827 GiB (8403816448 bytes, 4103426 blocks of 2 KiB)
disktype: Data read failed at position 2358378496: Input/output error

*******

You never know what you're getting on a motherboard DVD
these days. I wasn't aware this one was full of crap.
I was hoping to find a data DVD.

mint@mint:~$ sudo disktype /dev/cdrom

--- /dev/cdrom
Block device, size 3.483 GiB (3739779072 bytes)
CD-ROM, 1 track, CDDB disk ID 023BFD01
Track 1: Data track, 2.197 GiB (2358986752 bytes)
ISO9660 file system
Volume name "MB SUPPORT CD"
Publisher "FREEDOS - WWW.FREEDOS.ORG"
Preparer "ASUSTEK"
Application "FREEDOS DISTRIBUTION"
Data size 3.483 GiB (3739748352 bytes, 1826049 blocks of 2 KiB)
El Torito boot record, catalog at 20
Bootable non-emulated image, starts at 2515, preloads 2 KiB
Platform 0x00 (x86), System Type 0x00 (Empty)
ISOLINUX boot loader
Joliet extension, volume name "MB Support CD"

*******

I tried to go back a few years, to a time when motherboard
makers weren't quite as clever.

mint@mint:~$ sudo disktype /dev/cdrom

--- /dev/cdrom
Block device, size 658.4 MiB (690358272 bytes)
CD-ROM, 1 track, CDDB disk ID 02118E01
Track 1: Data track, 658.4 MiB (690358272 bytes)
ISO9660 file system
Volume name "INTEL875_865"
Application "NERO BURNING ROM"
Data size 658.4 MiB (690358272 bytes, 337089 blocks of 2 KiB)
Joliet extension, volume name "Intel875_865"

So that's possibly a data CD. It has a file system, and
OSes can mount that. On Linux it might be "mount -t iso9660".

Paul
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Old August 7th 20, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 00:08:35, Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 19:06:03, AK wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 7:36:12 PM UTC-5, JT wrote:
AK wrote:

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM UTC-5, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote:

I have been burning mp3s to a CD_RW disk for use in my car.

Have had few problems playing them.

I am using Verbatim discs.

I have burned the same 28 songs to two different CDs and when I
play them in my car,

it plays the first song, goes to the 2nd and does nothing and
then skips back to the first song.

They play fine on my computer CD player?
Try copying them to CD-R.




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The problem was that I was burning them as a data project.

When I did it as an audio CD, they started playing.
Which probably means the cd-player in your car is not MP3 capable.


JT

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No, as it plays CD-RW with 165 mp3s on it.


So you have a CD-RW with 165 mp3s, and the car player plays that -
but two CD-RWs with 28 mp3s on, and it does play the first one, but
that's all. So it's clear that the car player _can_ (a) read CD-RWs
[so it's not a laser colour/power problem] (b) read and play mp3s.


Two thoughts:


1. Is the "structure" of the 28-mp3 discs different to that of the
165-mp3 one - does the 165- have them all in the root folder, say,
but the 28- have them in sub-folders (all but one track)? Some
players don't like complex structures.


1a. Or, you may have changed a mode in the player: with (just audio
CDs) in my car player (??koda Octavia), I've done something that
affects how the back button works (always goes to the beginning of
the CD now, which is irritating!), and I can't figure out how to get
it back (to either just rewind a bit, or at least just restart the
current track).


2. Have you "closed" the "data project" on the 28-? That might
affect how the car player sees them (might only see the first one if
you haven't [I'd be surprised it even sees that]).

What about file system?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compac..._Digital_Audio

The audio CD would likely be "Red Book" or "CDDA". I
don't think that's a file system in the conventional


I'm surprised at you Paul! He's said he's using mp3s, so it's in
practice a data CD, not CDDA. (IIRR they're mostly "Joliet" or "ISO".)

mount sense. There's got to be some reason that they
call the copying of a CD "ripping".


Yes, a (red book) audio CD is a very simple structure, having very
little in the way of directories and so on: very close to just a linear
string. (Yes I know all CDs are that, but they're more so, as it were.)
[]
"conceived as an evolution of the gramophone record, and
did not consider the audio tracks as data files to be
identified and indexed.

The audio CD format does not include the disc name or
track names, so a supplemental database is needed to
supply this information"


Though it does have a low bit rate parallel data stream, which
nevertheless had just about enough capacity for such information - but
was hardly ever used for such, or in fact for anything, with the
exception of Karaoke discs.
[]
This Hollywood title (from the delete bin), uses an overlay
of two file systems. And the read error is probably a quaint
way of preventing copying (it rips just fine).


Yes, I've got one that shot itself in the foot like that: at the time I
got it (someone bought me it; British Light Classics, I think it was),
my default way of playing an audio CD was to stick it into the PC. That
wouldn't play there, though, so I had no _option_ but to rip it, in
order to hear it at all! (On the insert, it _didn't_ have the "CD
digital audio" symbol, though I expect it _would_ have played on a
"real" CD player.)
[]
But anyway: AK has been burning mp3s to CD-RW, including over 100 in one
case, and his car player plays them - so we're not talking Red Book CDDA
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