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Old July 26th 20, 08:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)
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Old July 26th 20, 10:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

On 26/07/2020 21.27, micky wrote:
My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)


None. You would need a converter, which costs money if they do exist.



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Old July 26th 20, 10:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

In article , micky
wrote:

My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)


reasonably high.

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)


low, but not zero.

they are two different interfaces, so you will need an adapter, which
takes up space and means the drive+adapter won't fit in a drive bay
designed for just a drive unless there's extra space, which is highly
unlikely.

however, if the drive is 3.5", you could use a 2.5" drive with an
adapter, which would fit in the larger bay. you would also need a
suitable bracket or other method of securing it.

it might be possible to put a drive elsewhere with cables connecting
it, but there is unlikely to be any space for that and a bit of a hack
even if there was.

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)


there is, but given its size, it's likely to be a 3.5".

do a search for a service manual and your question will be answered.

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)


modern devices are more capable, but suit yourself.
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Old July 26th 20, 10:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)


None. You would need a converter, which costs money if they do exist.


a replacement hard drive also costs money.

adapters do exist, but it's unlikely a drive with an adapter will fit
unless it's a 2.5" drive+adapter in a 3.5" bay.
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Old July 26th 20, 11:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

micky wrote:
My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)


It's a 3.5" drive.

(Page may auto-refresh so you'll lose your place while reading...)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/106-d...l#post12355769

AUSKCK... 3/25/09... 3575... 500GB WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB PATA.
AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB Hitachi 3.5" Deskstar P7K500 HDP725050GLA360
(0A35415) SATA and 500GB
Hitachi 2.5" Travelstar 5K500.B HTS545050B9A300
(0A57915) SATA
all using a SATAIDE-2 Adapter

"However, IdleW is very important for the 3575/3576 since they're idling a lot."

The article seems to suggest a 500GB drive is about as far as
the firmware will go.

But there's a lot to read there.

Paul
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Old July 27th 20, 06:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:19:43 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)


It's a 3.5" drive.

(Page may auto-refresh so you'll lose your place while reading...)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/106-d...l#post12355769

AUSKCK... 3/25/09... 3575... 500GB WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB PATA.
AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB Hitachi 3.5" Deskstar P7K500 HDP725050GLA360
(0A35415) SATA and 500GB
Hitachi 2.5" Travelstar 5K500.B HTS545050B9A300
(0A57915) SATA
all using a SATAIDE-2 Adapter

"However, IdleW is very important for the 3575/3576 since they're idling a lot."

The article seems to suggest a 500GB drive is about as far as
the firmware will go.


That's still 3 times as big.

Thanks.

But there's a lot to read there.


I'ldd do my best. I'm surprised I didn't find this page myself. I
read the AVS forum when I first bought the thing, and they had a sepate
section for it. I don't think this is part of that, but the same
compan y made the Magnavox.

Paul


  #7  
Old July 27th 20, 06:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

And thanks everyone.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 27 Jul 2020 01:09:33 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:19:43 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)


It's a 3.5" drive.

(Page may auto-refresh so you'll lose your place while reading...)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/106-d...l#post12355769

AUSKCK... 3/25/09... 3575... 500GB WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKB PATA.
AUSKCK... 3/27/09... 3575... 500GB Hitachi 3.5" Deskstar P7K500 HDP725050GLA360
(0A35415) SATA and 500GB
Hitachi 2.5" Travelstar 5K500.B HTS545050B9A300
(0A57915) SATA
all using a SATAIDE-2 Adapter

"However, IdleW is very important for the 3575/3576 since they're idling a lot."

The article seems to suggest a 500GB drive is about as far as
the firmware will go.


That's still 3 times as big.

Thanks.

But there's a lot to read there.


I'ldd do my best. I'm surprised I didn't find this page myself. I
read the AVS forum when I first bought the thing, and they had a sepate
section for it. I don't think this is part of that, but the same
compan y made the Magnavox.

Paul


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Old July 27th 20, 12:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris Elvidge[_3_]
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Default OT Replacement HDD for DVDR

On 26/07/2020 10:37 pm, nospam wrote:
In article , micky
wrote:

My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)


reasonably high.

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)


low, but not zero.

they are two different interfaces, so you will need an adapter, which
takes up space and means the drive+adapter won't fit in a drive bay
designed for just a drive unless there's extra space, which is highly
unlikely.


See:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/VGEBY-Inter...AJ8M70ZN8RWHZ4

Package Dimensions 13 x 10.7 x 1.8 cm


however, if the drive is 3.5", you could use a 2.5" drive with an
adapter, which would fit in the larger bay. you would also need a
suitable bracket or other method of securing it.

it might be possible to put a drive elsewhere with cables connecting
it, but there is unlikely to be any space for that and a bit of a hack
even if there was.

Nothing I've found says whether it's a 3.5" or 2. 5" drive. It's 13
years old. What are the odds it's 2.5"? Is there any chance it's
2.5"? (It's a lot of work to get it off the shelf and open it up
to look.)


there is, but given its size, it's likely to be a 3.5".

do a search for a service manual and your question will be answered.

(Please don't try to sell me some other method of recording TV. This is
what I want and I'm not changing.)


modern devices are more capable, but suit yourself.




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Old July 27th 20, 01:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Chris Elvidge wrote:
On 26/07/2020 10:37 pm, nospam wrote:
In article , micky
wrote:

My DVDR, a Philips DVDR3575H, was designed around a 160GB PATA drive.

When the drive fails, what are the odds I can replace it with a larger
drive? How much larger? ;-)


reasonably high.

What are the odds I can use a SATA drive intead of PATA? (Sillly
question, since they still sell PATA drives, but silly is my middle
name.)


low, but not zero.

they are two different interfaces, so you will need an adapter, which
takes up space and means the drive+adapter won't fit in a drive bay
designed for just a drive unless there's extra space, which is highly
unlikely.


See:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/VGEBY-Inter.../dp/B06XW6LN6T


Package Dimensions 13 x 10.7 x 1.8 cm


And it has the Master/Slave jumper, so you can put two of those
adapters on a motherboard IDE ribbon cable. If using just one
adapter, put it on the end of the cable and set to Master.

X---------------X-----X
Adpt Adpt
Slave Master
| |
SATA SATA

What I don't know, is who makes that chip. It could be
a Sunplus but I can't be sure. The suppliers of these things
are different than in older days. The other chip makers bowed out
of the market. The one I've got has a Marvell chip (and Marvell
has stopped doing a number of older items). Everyones gotta
eat, I guess.

https://www.tivocommunity.com/commun...416883/page-12

Paul
 




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